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Hate to cross-post, but this has info on both, so the Sony stuff can be discussed here:


From GAF, VFXVetern: Industry Professional (Vetted):

  • Guys you all have to calm down. Sheesh!
    Our text was pretty flaky because he was getting the information from a very high profile worker at Sony.
    The text seems to be all over the place.
    I never got dates nor prices. As I said before, "expensive" to me means near Nvidia 2080 costs. The guessing is all on me so take it with a grain of salt.
    PS5 as of now is 9TF. I specifically asked that and got a yes.
    PS5 falls in between performance of the Lockheart and the XSX. That is confirmed.
    The iffy part is the PS5 Pro.
    "they have one model with lower specs than PS5 and one model with higher specs. PS5 is right in the middle" -- talking about the Xbox SKUs.
    "tons of rumors that the lower spec xbox is coming out this year".
    "XSX is equivalent to the RTX 2080 super"
    "unless they plan on selling it for $800 I doubt it will release anytime soon." -- XSX coming out later??
    There is other comments like if XSX sells for $500 then that would disrupt Nvidia sells, etc.."
    Anyway, I tried to piece together was is happening. It appears like the PS5 Pro is coming later. That would mean the base PS5 is 9TF and perhaps the 2 SKUs for Xbox are releasing during xmas 2020.
    So 2 models. Possible 2 coming out from Microsoft but 1 coming out for Sony.
    I'm just as confused as you guys but I won't press for straight answers.
 
So are Sony looking to release a PS Pro this year? I hope so. If there is a Pro version coming around or soon after launch, I hope Sony tell us so I don’t buy the lower specced version only to find out a more powerful version is coming soon after.
 
This is such a complete flip flop of what was going on last gen. Sony was so on top of messaging and having the stronger console. Every message board was filled with crazy Xbox Rumors trying to make the best of the situation and all this secret sauce.

Now Microsoft is on point with messaging and looks to have the stronger console and now rumors are just getting crazy for PS5. There will be no PS5 Pro at launch. It makes zero sense to release one console at 9-10TF and then do another console at 12TF+.

With Lockhart there is a huge difference in power. I believe the rumor is 4TF. Which makes sense because you can price Lockhart and Series X far apart from each other. However both those Sony machines, especially with the price of component issues, would both be the same price because there is barely a difference.

It is just silly that we don’t hear a peep about a PS5 Pro until after we get 12TF RDNA 2. Insider damage control IMO.
 
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Hate to cross-post, but this has info on both, so the Sony stuff can be discussed here:


From GAF, VFXVetern: Industry Professional (Vetted):

  • Guys you all have to calm down. Sheesh!
    Our text was pretty flaky because he was getting the information from a very high profile worker at Sony.
    The text seems to be all over the place.
    I never got dates nor prices. As I said before, "expensive" to me means near Nvidia 2080 costs. The guessing is all on me so take it with a grain of salt.
    PS5 as of now is 9TF. I specifically asked that and got a yes.
    PS5 falls in between performance of the Lockheart and the XSX. That is confirmed.
    The iffy part is the PS5 Pro.
    "they have one model with lower specs than PS5 and one model with higher specs. PS5 is right in the middle" -- talking about the Xbox SKUs.
    "tons of rumors that the lower spec xbox is coming out this year".
    "XSX is equivalent to the RTX 2080 super"
    "unless they plan on selling it for $800 I doubt it will release anytime soon." -- XSX coming out later??
    There is other comments like if XSX sells for $500 then that would disrupt Nvidia sells, etc.."
    Anyway, I tried to piece together was is happening. It appears like the PS5 Pro is coming later. That would mean the base PS5 is 9TF and perhaps the 2 SKUs for Xbox are releasing during xmas 2020.
    So 2 models. Possible 2 coming out from Microsoft but 1 coming out for Sony.
    I'm just as confused as you guys but I won't press for straight answers.

If you read his posts from earlier in the thread people seem to think he's full of it so we'll see. He's passing on info he supposedly got second hand so it's not something I'd put much stock in at the moment but we'll see.
 


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Xbox Series X specification details and other new information released: RTN 02/26 2020 youtu.be/X9IVlRrSHI8@YouTube Than

At 6: 00 ~ PS5 says 9.2tflops but is it a broadcast accident?
 
I suspect that whatever external storage solutions there are for next gen will have to be specific to the console, as the level of integration and proximity within the apu/GPU will be very high
 
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In that link you sent there is mention that Sony would be using 980 QVO PCI-E 4.0 drives in PS5 internally. If true, that's a far cry from a revolutionary proprietary SSD, the QVO line is Samsungs lowest end SKU, but obviously should be a generational leap from what is internally available for consoles currently.
 
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Well, it seems like GameStop wanted to give the PlayStation 5 (PS5) some love after that. Today, the pre-registration website for the PS5 went up with some known details about the console. The retailer said the following about Sony's machine.

  • Full 8K TV support
  • Bespoke 8-core AMD chipset
  • 3D Audio
  • Built-for-purpose SSD storage
  • Backwards compatibility with PS4 games/PSVR hardware
  • Ray tracing capabilities
While we knew that the PS5 would support up to 8K resolution and had an 8-core CPU, there were rumors floating around that it featured backward compatibility with all previous PlayStation generations. If GameStop is to be believed, it's just going to support PlayStation 4 games and you'll have to buy your PlayStation and PlayStation 2 rereleases, or play through PlayStation Now, the company's streaming service.
 
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From Windows Central:

Well, it seems like GameStop wanted to give the PlayStation 5 (PS5) some love after that. Today, the pre-registration website for the PS5 went up with some known details about the console. The retailer said the following about Sony's machine.


While we knew that the PS5 would support up to 8K resolution and had an 8-core CPU, there were rumors floating around that it featured backward compatibility with all previous PlayStation generations. If GameStop is to be believed, it's just going to support PlayStation 4 games and you'll have to buy your PlayStation and PlayStation 2 rereleases, or play through PlayStation Now, the company's streaming service.

Did anyone really expect PS1-PS3 BC? how many people still have discs from the PS1, PS2 and PS3 days? PS4 BC is all that matters, we are at a point now where games in the current gen look great and can stand up fairly well for a long time, a PS1 or PS2 game even given a higher res will still look like crap.
 
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Did anyone really expect PS1-PS3 BC? how many people still have discs from the PS1, PS2 and PS3 days? PS4 BC is all that matters, we are at a point now where games in the current gen look great and can stand up fairly well for a long time, a PS1 or PS2 game even given a higher res will still look like crap.

i have a feeling there’s gonna be with licensing and rights holders...if I could play gt2 on my ps5 without a hitch that’s be fantastic, but if Sony, or any other third party game of old, would want to sell it again as a new that’s where they would then find issues. But I don’t know how things work in those cases or legally, so who knows besides them
 
i have a feeling there’s gonna be with licensing and rights holders...if I could play gt2 on my ps5 without a hitch that’s be fantastic, but if Sony, or any other third party game of old, would want to sell it again as a new that’s where they would then find issues. But I don’t know how things work in those cases or legally, so who knows besides them

Games with licensed content will be a problem, anything based on a movie is probably a no go and likely the same for games with licensed music tracks.
 
Having played much of the classic ps1 games on my hacked ps classic, I can honestly say most have aged horrible. Just the fact that you don't use dual analog sticks in the majority of the 3d games make it hard to appreciate today. Ps2 aged better but at the same time most of the greats have had sequels on ps3/ps4 that made them obsolete.
 
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Having played much of the classic ps1 games on my hacked ps classic, I can honestly say most have aged horrible. Just the fact that you don't use dual analog sticks in the majority of the 3d games make it hard to appreciate today. Ps2 aged better but at the same time most of the greats have had sequels on ps3/ps4 that made them obsolete.

yeah, the fact that they didn’t at least include the dual sticks is mind boggling
 
Did anyone really expect PS1-PS3 BC? how many people still have discs from the PS1, PS2 and PS3 days? PS4 BC is all that matters, we are at a point now where games in the current gen look great and can stand up fairly well for a long time, a PS1 or PS2 game even given a higher res will still look like crap.

I still have FFT, FF8 and 9 (not 7 though) and Chrono Cross, plus others of less usefulness. But when I want to play them at this point I just fire up an emulator. It would be nice to have that level of back compat but since they've always had to do it via hardware I'm not surprised and if I become independent wealthy enough to have the time to actually have both consoles, it wouldn't stop me.
 
yeah, the fact that they didn’t at least include the dual sticks is mind boggling
Yeah, it's s*** in vanilla state, but I bought 8bitdo receivers and play with dual shock 3s, still few games take advantage of them the way we're used to today I'm afraid. It looks great on my shelf though, the micro console, but I wouldn't want Sony to put time on ps1 bc when they could let those resources do something else.
 
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I still have FFT, FF8 and 9 (not 7 though) and Chrono Cross, plus others of less usefulness. But when I want to play them at this point I just fire up an emulator. It would be nice to have that level of back compat but since they've always had to do it via hardware I'm not surprised and if I become independent wealthy enough to have the time to actually have both consoles, it wouldn't stop me.

That's cool but it's just one of those things where the vast majority of people won't even have games from those gens to play and they would basically have to buy those games again digitally, I'd rather they just keep doing remakes of classics and giving them upgraded graphics and more refined controls than tryin to make a game that ran at 480p or below upscale properly to 4K.
 
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