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Absolutely. Because of Xbox we have to pay to play online.
They don't have to include any games but choose to offer much better offerings than Gold.
Gamepass is a different not noteworthy product.

If Xbox didn't start pay to play online then playstation would of started it at some stage too, costs too much to maintain, both are pretty cheap per month so it's not really a big issue.
 
If Xbox didn't start pay to play online then playstation would of started it at some stage too, costs too much to maintain, both are pretty cheap per month so it's not really a big issue.
Nope and PS3 online is proof.
Price is good for both but one has superior offerings🤷
 
XSX isn’t doing it either. But Xbox is running circles around PlayStation in constant communication and fan service while leadership at PlayStation are in their corporate bunker lying about release dates and their next gen plans.
If they are lying about release dates then everyone else is too
 
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As well as a big push in the USA compared to the rest of the world but the demand is definitely going strong.

The PS5 is still selling better than the XSX/XSS globally but yes I believe Sony is focusing more on US and UK at launch this gen, two of MS's biggest markets.
 
The sales success of PlayStation 5 is nice but that’s expected. I want to be excited as a gamer and PlayStation so far isn’t doing it.

They are doing better with the PS5 launch than the PS4 launch this gen. They have been adding tons of value compared to what they were doing with the PS4.

PS5 PS+ collection - 18 of last gen's top hits for free with PS+ subscription

PS5 free games since launch from PS+ - Bugsnax (title launch), Maneater (title launch), Worms Rumble (title launch), Destruction All stars (title launch), Maquette (title launch), Oddworld Soulstorm (title launch)

PS4 free games with BC since PS5 launch from PS+ - Shadow of War, Just Cause 4, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Greedfall, Control: Ultimate Edition, FF7 Remake, Remnant: From the Ashes, Days Gone.

There's tons of value given out.

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Number of PS4 exclusives released in the first 6 months: 3
- Killzone: Shadow Fall
- Knack
- Infamous: Second Son

Number of PS5 exclusives released in the first 6 months: 5
- Astro's Playroom
- Destruction AllStars
- Demon's Souls
- Returnal
- Spiderman: Miles Morales
 
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Jim Ryan doesn't want new games on a sub service they need to make the money back so they can finance the games currently in development. Sub services will likely lower quality and output, look at MS they've released 3 AAA games in the nerly 4 years of GP two of which are racing game sequels.

According to Jaffe a GP like service is being discussed within Sony.
 
My next game will be Ghost of Tsushima. Was on sale for $40 and have to check that out. Of course I downloaded it and didn't launch yet, but the sale is ending soon. I still need to finish up AC:V (or just punt on it but I think I'm close).

Still no sign of the Spider Man ultimate edition on sale at all. Not even a small discount.
 
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I was thinking of getting GoT but decided to hold. I still have God of War and Spider-Man for big games, plus plenty of others.
 
They are doing better with the PS5 launch than the PS4 launch this gen. They have been adding tons of value compared to what they were doing with the PS4.

PS5 PS+ collection - 18 of last gen's top hits for free with PS+ subscription

PS5 free games since launch from PS+ - Bugsnax (title launch), Maneater (title launch), Worms Rumble (title launch), Destruction All stars (title launch), Maquette (title launch), Oddworld Soulstorm (title launch)

PS4 free games with BC since PS5 launch from PS+ - Shadow of War, Just Cause 4, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Greedfall, Control: Ultimate Edition, FF7 Remake, Remnant: From the Ashes, Days Gone.

There's tons of value given out.

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Number of PS4 exclusives released in the first 6 months: 3
- Killzone: Shadow Fall
- Knack
- Infamous: Second Son

Number of PS5 exclusives released in the first 6 months: 5
- Astro's Playroom
- Destruction AllStars
- Demon's Souls
- Returnal
- Spiderman: Miles Morales
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They are doing better with the PS5 launch than the PS4 launch this gen. They have been adding tons of value compared to what they were doing with the PS4.

PS5 PS+ collection - 18 of last gen's top hits for free with PS+ subscription

PS5 free games since launch from PS+ - Bugsnax (title launch), Maneater (title launch), Worms Rumble (title launch), Destruction All stars (title launch), Maquette (title launch), Oddworld Soulstorm (title launch)

PS4 free games with BC since PS5 launch from PS+ - Shadow of War, Just Cause 4, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Greedfall, Control: Ultimate Edition, FF7 Remake, Remnant: From the Ashes, Days Gone.

There's tons of value given out.

Also

Number of PS4 exclusives released in the first 6 months: 3
- Killzone: Shadow Fall
- Knack
- Infamous: Second Son

Number of PS5 exclusives released in the first 6 months: 5
- Astro's Playroom
- Destruction AllStars
- Demon's Souls
- Returnal
- Spiderman: Miles Morales

Spiderman Miles Morales is on PS4 also, so not exclusive to PS5.
 
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The sales success of PlayStation 5 is nice but that’s expected. I want to be excited as a gamer and PlayStation so far isn’t doing it.
It's crazy to me how little they're pushing Returnal at this point. It's less than 2 weeks away, and it's getting less marketing / advertising than some indie games.

If you're going to force the $70 price tag on gamers, do something to earn it. Also, don't royally screw over a great dev like Housemarque like this.
 
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According to Jaffe a GP like service is being discussed within Sony.
They may be discussing altering PS Now in some way but they won't be launching new games on a subscription service and Jim Ryan has explained why that doesn't work for them several times but the media just keeps pushing this narrative that they need to combat game pass. They always forget to add that a very large portion of GP games are from the xbox 360, most of the xbox one games are older titles and it's really a lot of filler. MS hasn't done a good enough job adding new content from their first party studios and once that does start to happen I expect the price to go up because costs will have to be recouped.

Sony won't do that because they mostly make single player story drive games that can be finished in a month, they don't focus on MP or games as a service so people would just sign up for a month and then cancel. Look at the 3 AAA games MS has released in the nearly 4 years since GP launched, they all have a big multiplayer focus (2 racing games and gears 5) and then you have a game as a service in Sea of Thieves which launched with virtually nothing to do and took months to actually make it worth playing for any length of time. That's the kind of thing you have to focus on with a service like GP, without retention the service is going to bleed money so you need to find ways to keep people from leaving. As it is now it's not making much money for them and that'll have to change.
 
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We will see. Because of $70 games I predict PS5 will have the lowest attach rate out of all PlayStation consoles. That will also result in lower engagement. The end result is not good for gamers, games, and developers.
 
Most XSX gamers will buy $70 games as well as less than half of XB games across ALL platforms use GP.
I expect the opposite of what you are saying to happen with PS5.
IT'S ON FIRE!!!
 
We will see. Because of $70 games I predict PS5 will have the lowest attach rate out of all PlayStation consoles. That will also result in lower engagement. The end result is not good for gamers, games, and developers.

Will probably be the same for the XS consoles and Switch/switch successor as they are all selling at the same price. Not just a PlayStation thing.
 
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PlayStation will eventually have a real Game Pass competitor and the Sony faithful will change their talking points accordingly and proclaim it the greatest thing ever.
Why do xbox fans keep wanting Sony who's perpetually in 1st place to follow MS who's a distant third? MS is doing this because they can't compete otherwise in the gaming space and they are trying something different. Gamepass isn't even making much money right now.
 
A good idea is a good idea. Discounting it because a company is viewed as inferior is childish and nonsensical. As a PS5 owner I want high quality, affordable games and you better believe I’m going to call out cash grabs by a company that brags out record sales of their games all while raising the price of games to bankroll their first party efforts at the expense of AA development. I own a PlayStation console. Not Sony stock.
 
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Why do xbox fans keep wanting Sony who's perpetually in 1st place to follow MS who's a distant third? MS is doing this because they can't compete otherwise in the gaming space and they are trying something different. Gamepass isn't even making much money right now.
And yet they followed them at charging for online play.... maybe if they all shut up they’ll make ps+ like gp
 
A good idea is a good idea. Discounting it because a company is viewed as inferior is childish and nonsensical. As a PS5 owner I want high quality, affordable games and you better believe I’m going to call out cash grabs by a company that brags out record sales of their games all while raising the price of games to bankroll their first party efforts at the expense of AA development. I own a PlayStation console. Not Sony stock.
Totes...and “for transparency” I own both, stock in Sony and a ps5
 
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