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Funny how the only example given was for a country that didn't get a price hike. That isn't suspicious at all.
Being that it outsold the two xbox series consoles in the UK in October which were said to have done well on their own it's really not suspicious, they only brought up that 100k in 17.5 hours number because it's huge and highlights how in demand the product still is. You probably wouldn't see a number like that in any other single country no matter how in demand it is.
 
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Being that it outsold the two xbox series consoles in the UK in October which were said to have done well on their own it's really not suspicious, they only brought up that 100k in 17.5 hours number because it's huge and highlights how in demand the product still is. You probably wouldn't see a number like that in any other single country no matter how in demand it is.
It is because they still didn't give any example of what they claimed and instead highlighted a market that didn't receive a price hike. There is no spinning this. It isn't like it is hard for them to show what they claim.
 

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It is because they still didn't give any example of what they claimed and instead highlighted a market that didn't receive a price hike. There is no spinning this. It isn't like it is hard for them to show what they claim.

UK and Japan numbers show that they are still selling strong. In Japan, PS5 recently outsold Switch selling the highest it's ever been with the restock game being strong there. There was a huge lineup for a lottery of just 2000 units. UK they came out #1 in October even when XS had a huge month. Haven't taken a look at other markets yet.
 

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UK and Japan numbers show that they are still selling strong. In Japan, PS5 recently outsold Switch selling the highest it's ever been with the restock game being strong there. There was a huge lineup for a lottery of just 2000 units. UK they came out #1 in October even when XS had a huge month. Haven't taken a look at other markets yet.
And that doesn't change anything. All this trying to spin and for what?

They literally boasted that a price increase didn't hurt them and yet didn't provide any proof of that. Why? There is literally no reason not to show it if that was the case. I'm not even saying the price increase did hurt them either. Not even saying they aren't being truthful. I'm just saying that a boast like that not getting backed up with tangible numbers is suspicious.
 
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And that doesn't change anything. All this trying to spin and for what?

They literally boasted that a price increase didn't hurt them and yet didn't provide any proof of that. Why? There is literally no reason not to show it if that was the case. I'm not even saying the price increase did hurt them either. Not even saying they aren't being truthful. I'm just saying that a boast like that not getting backed up with tangible numbers is suspicious.
Sony are a bunch of liars….
 

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It is funny how nobody here posted that UK PS5 sales are actually down from last year despite the supposed better stock levels this year.

They are saving 3.2-3.3 million of their stock produced this quarter in preparation for the Holidays, they have stated this in their recent Earnings. They basically shipped only half of what they produced to save some for GoW push.

"About the hardware, I can't give specific unit numbers but as I mentioned in my speech, the second quarter production reached 6.5 million already and we want to use this as supply for year-end sales. I think there's a lot of expectation here," Sony Chief Financial Officer Hiroki Totoki said in a recent Q2 2022 earnings call.

"And the PlayStation 5 price increase impact; So far, due to the price increase, we have not seen any dampening of the demand but we have to monitor what will happen in the market going forward."

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/8930...s-not-yet-impacted-consumer-demand/index.html
 
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They are saving 3.2-3.3 million of their stock produced this quarter in preparation for the Holidays, they have stated this in their recent Earnings. They basically shipped only half of what they produced to save some for GoW push.

"About the hardware, I can't give specific unit numbers but as I mentioned in my speech, the second quarter production reached 6.5 million already and we want to use this as supply for year-end sales. I think there's a lot of expectation here," Sony Chief Financial Officer Hiroki Totoki said in a recent Q2 2022 earnings call.

"And the PlayStation 5 price increase impact; So far, due to the price increase, we have not seen any dampening of the demand but we have to monitor what will happen in the market going forward."

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/8930...s-not-yet-impacted-consumer-demand/index.html
I already know this. Doesn't change anything.
 

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I already know this. Doesn't change anything.

It does. 13.4 million last year around this time and that was including the big launch push numbers in 2020. Now at 25 million shipped while witholding 3.3 million which would have made it up to 28 million. So they produced more this past 1 year (11.6 million+3.3 million reserved).
 

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It does. 13.4 million last year around this time and that was including the big launch push numbers in 2020. Now at 25 million shipped while witholding 3.3 million which would have made it up to 28 million. So they produced more but just reserving them.
Which makes no difference.

And in the middle of all these over the place numbers they made their boast and didn't back it up.

My original comment is valid, and you guys made it in to big deal out of some illogical need to defend a comment you can't actually defend.
 

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Which makes no difference.

And in the middle of all these over the place numbers they made their boast and didn't back it up.

My original comment is valid, and you guys made it in to big deal out of some illogical need to defend a comment you can't actually defend.

Oh I only responded because I thought you said the supply levels were supposed to be better this year which it is.
 

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It is because they still didn't give any example of what they claimed and instead highlighted a market that didn't receive a price hike. There is no spinning this. It isn't like it is hard for them to show what they claim.
If you listen to the actual call and not just read a poorly written article, you'll see that they never once said that the average of 100k units being sold in 17.5 hours has anything to do with any other markets they were just talking about how demand is still high. The price hikes weren't even mentioned anywhere near that part of the call.
 

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If you listen to the actual call and not just read a poorly written article, you'll see that they never once said that the average of 100k units being sold in 17.5 hours has anything to do with any other markets they were just talking about how demand is still high. The price hikes weren't even mentioned anywhere near that part of the call.
Dude, it is irrelevant. They still said what they said and didn't back it up. That is the point. Hence suspicious.

Why you guys made a big deal out of a perfectly valid comment is beyond me.
 

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Dude, it is irrelevant. They still said what they said and didn't back it up. That is the point. Hence suspicious.

Why you guys made a big deal out of a perfectly valid comment is beyond me.
LOL Facts are irrelevant? They never mentioned the price hikes or other markets in the call they simply talked about having high demand and used that number as an example. I guess you saying they were being shady about something they weren't even talking about could be understood if you are only going by that poorly written article but when the facts are given to you and you refuse to admit that what you said was uninformed or wrong that just means you have no interest in having an honest conversation. Hell they even went on to say that so far they haven't seen any dampening in demand but that they'll have to continue monitoring, that's pretty straightforward.
 
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LOL Facts are irrelevant? They never mentioned the price hikes or other markets in the call they simply talked about having high demand and used that number as an example. I guess you saying they were being shady about something they weren't even talking about could be understood if you are only going by that poorly written article but when the facts are given to you and you refuse to admit that what you said was uninformed or wrong that just means you have no interest in having an honest conversation. Hell they even went on to say that so far they haven't seen any dampening in demand but that they'll have to continue monitoring, that's pretty straightforward.
Jesus, dude. Now you lie to defend against a valid comment.

This is pathetic!!!
 

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This upcoming version has a new design with a significant change to its exterior. Our source claims that this new “slim” version uses a die-shrink treatment that reduces the size of the console, enough to validate a new design by Sony. It uses less voltage and therefore runs cooler. It’s also more lightweight because of it.
 
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This upcoming version has a new design with a significant change to its exterior. Our source claims that this new “slim” version uses a die-shrink treatment that reduces the size of the console, enough to validate a new design by Sony. It uses less voltage and therefore runs cooler. It’s also more lightweight because of it.
Sounds like it will be smaller but not drastically smaller.
 

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This upcoming version has a new design with a significant change to its exterior. Our source claims that this new “slim” version uses a die-shrink treatment that reduces the size of the console, enough to validate a new design by Sony. It uses less voltage and therefore runs cooler. It’s also more lightweight because of it.

Hopefully it's not ugly like the current one and comes in black.
 
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