Rant thread: Fk SAAS & unmoderated out-of-control software firm practices!

starseeker

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Fuk Software as a service (SAAS) fuk horrible dubious practice & with little control from governments or consumer rights groups.

Lets start with SAAS,
Software as a service is mostly dubious by itself, but its far worse!!!

In the good old days, you buy the software, you get to keep it forever. Along the line. some greedy PoS thought, by charge once, when we can charge regularly, & also prevent you from passing down to someone else, & bypass consumer laws (service & products have different laws). YOu will be force to pay regularly or lose ability to use the software.

That is already horrible, but it get worse!!!! This happened to me when I reinstall my software due to PC crash. I have 2 software I cannot use anymore.

POS Autodesk, decided to change Maya creator to a new token type service, & now I cannot use it that was originally given to me as a replacement for ending another software as a service license Maya LT. A service costing me over 300€ a year. I was held to blackmail since my files for past 8 years will be NOT readable by any software except Maya base.

Also Painter, another software I bought before they sold their soul to Adobe & now charges it as a SAAS. Since I reinstall it, I can no longer use it!!!!! The original software required accessing their website to activate or use a license key, a physical file...which you get from their website, not a password you can screenshot. They shut down the website after moving to Adobe......so I cannot use it anymore. They said I can email them to ask for the licence key. I email on Friday, hopefully (not holding my breath though) I get a licence key next week.
I bought the original like for over 200bucks, & upgrade to v2 for 50 I think. Now under abobe, they want 55 a month!!!!! WTF.

But these are not the worst , the worst are from MS & Adobe. Did I mention Adobe again?

I reinstalled my Windows, & when I go to my MS account (thankfully) I notice that they AUTOMATICALLY add office 365 to my sub list, WTF!!!!! Thankfully I cancel beofre they can charge. How the F is that not dubious.

Now to my favorite company Adobe. I finally canceled my sub package which include Photoshop. I though that was end of the story, but Motherkuker Adobe did not just cancel my sub, which cost about 13€, as you would expect, it remove photoshop but switch me to a photo package that cost 12€ include cloud storage that I NEVER used before, & they have charged me for a year!!!!!! Luckily, I saw that when I log in my adobe account, & was shocked, & cancel immediately.

I have enough of BS from Autodesk & Adobe, & I paid them good money over the years. I am moving to Blender. The transaction will be painful, but it beat paying money to these PoS companies & get sht on.
 
Fuk Software as a service (SAAS) fuk horrible dubious practice & with little control from governments or consumer rights groups.

Lets start with SAAS,
Software as a service is mostly dubious by itself, but its far worse!!!

In the good old days, you buy the software, you get to keep it forever. Along the line. some greedy PoS thought, by charge once, when we can charge regularly, & also prevent you from passing down to someone else, & bypass consumer laws (service & products have different laws). YOu will be force to pay regularly or lose ability to use the software.

That is already horrible, but it get worse!!!! This happened to me when I reinstall my software due to PC crash. I have 2 software I cannot use anymore.

POS Autodesk, decided to change Maya creator to a new token type service, & now I cannot use it that was originally given to me as a replacement for ending another software as a service license Maya LT. A service costing me over 300€ a year. I was held to blackmail since my files for past 8 years will be NOT readable by any software except Maya base.

Also Painter, another software I bought before they sold their soul to Adobe & now charges it as a SAAS. Since I reinstall it, I can no longer use it!!!!! The original software required accessing their website to activate or use a license key, a physical file...which you get from their website, not a password you can screenshot. They shut down the website after moving to Adobe......so I cannot use it anymore. They said I can email them to ask for the licence key. I email on Friday, hopefully (not holding my breath though) I get a licence key next week.
I bought the original like for over 200bucks, & upgrade to v2 for 50 I think. Now under abobe, they want 55 a month!!!!! WTF.

But these are not the worst , the worst are from MS & Adobe. Did I mention Adobe again?

I reinstalled my Windows, & when I go to my MS account (thankfully) I notice that they AUTOMATICALLY add office 365 to my sub list, WTF!!!!! Thankfully I cancel beofre they can charge. How the F is that not dubious.

Now to my favorite company Adobe. I finally canceled my sub package which include Photoshop. I though that was end of the story, but Motherkuker Adobe did not just cancel my sub, which cost about 13€, as you would expect, it remove photoshop but switch me to a photo package that cost 12€ include cloud storage that I NEVER used before, & they have charged me for a year!!!!!! Luckily, I saw that when I log in my adobe account, & was shocked, & cancel immediately.

I have enough of BS from Autodesk & Adobe, & I paid them good money over the years. I am moving to Blender. The transaction will be painful, but it beat paying money to these PoS companies & get sht on.

Yup digital only is horrible. You are at the mercy of whatever they decide to put out to replace your software. The subscription service is the worst because everything requires it these days

I miss the days of buying the software and actually being able to just install that anywhere I wanted. I paid for only that software not a monthly sub for other stuff I don't need.
 
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I miss the days of buying the software and actually being able to just install that anywhere I wanted. I paid for only that software not a monthly sub for other stuff I don't need.
VERY few service models are not overprice & dubious.
Now it is hard to buy just some stock royality free photos & asserts. They want you to sign a monthly sub. If you are a big firm & the account is shared by team of artists, make sense maybe. But for small team or soloist, its absurd. I need maybe 3 or 5 photos max, & not going to pay 50bucks a month to gain acess to 100 photos a month or whatever.

Some years ago, I wanted some human figure references, but they decided to charge monthy fee (how many figure pictures do you really need for references to pay a monthly fee? I signed up, download all the references I want, then quit the sub (paid for one month).

Dubious aside, I am not sure if this live servce model actually more profitable then just say to poeple what they need. At lesat provide both options.
 
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Finally after more than a week. I was able to get most of what I need up. I cancelled my Autodesk, adobe subs, manage to get legacy painter running agian after a long and hard back fore with Adobe.
I lost a few video projects due to the reinstalled, but its not too big of a deal, as I still have the raw footages.

I swap Autodesk (fk Autodesk) Maya to Blender. It pains me to have to relearn a new 3D software after being an expert due to close to 2 decades of experience in Maya, bu its a necessity due to how I was screwed by them, & how awful they treat small indies & indepence artists.
 
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Fuk Software as a service (SAAS) fuk horrible dubious practice & with little control from governments or consumer rights groups.

Lets start with SAAS,
Software as a service is mostly dubious by itself, but its far worse!!!

In the good old days, you buy the software, you get to keep it forever. Along the line. some greedy PoS thought, by charge once, when we can charge regularly, & also prevent you from passing down to someone else, & bypass consumer laws (service & products have different laws). YOu will be force to pay regularly or lose ability to use the software.

That is already horrible, but it get worse!!!! This happened to me when I reinstall my software due to PC crash. I have 2 software I cannot use anymore.

POS Autodesk, decided to change Maya creator to a new token type service, & now I cannot use it that was originally given to me as a replacement for ending another software as a service license Maya LT. A service costing me over 300€ a year. I was held to blackmail since my files for past 8 years will be NOT readable by any software except Maya base.

Also Painter, another software I bought before they sold their soul to Adobe & now charges it as a SAAS. Since I reinstall it, I can no longer use it!!!!! The original software required accessing their website to activate or use a license key, a physical file...which you get from their website, not a password you can screenshot. They shut down the website after moving to Adobe......so I cannot use it anymore. They said I can email them to ask for the licence key. I email on Friday, hopefully (not holding my breath though) I get a licence key next week.
I bought the original like for over 200bucks, & upgrade to v2 for 50 I think. Now under abobe, they want 55 a month!!!!! WTF.

But these are not the worst , the worst are from MS & Adobe. Did I mention Adobe again?

I reinstalled my Windows, & when I go to my MS account (thankfully) I notice that they AUTOMATICALLY add office 365 to my sub list, WTF!!!!! Thankfully I cancel beofre they can charge. How the F is that not dubious.

Now to my favorite company Adobe. I finally canceled my sub package which include Photoshop. I though that was end of the story, but Motherkuker Adobe did not just cancel my sub, which cost about 13€, as you would expect, it remove photoshop but switch me to a photo package that cost 12€ include cloud storage that I NEVER used before, & they have charged me for a year!!!!!! Luckily, I saw that when I log in my adobe account, & was shocked, & cancel immediately.

I have enough of BS from Autodesk & Adobe, & I paid them good money over the years. I am moving to Blender. The transaction will be painful, but it beat paying money to these PoS companies & get sht on.
Welcome to my world brother. I ditched Adobe and Autodesk personally a while back. Went with Affinity (photo and Designer) which is a one time purchase and not even that expensive. I use Clip Studio for drawing. I Even use OpenOffice in leu of MS office.

I've been using Blender for years now. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with how good Blender is these days and how rapidly it grows. There is a plugin to make it control like Maya as well. They even have some stable diffusion AI render plugins now. You can even do compositing, 3d Sculpting, and 2d animation. It's really amazing. And. It's FREE

I wish you luck, and echo your frustration with the insane cost of these programs.
 
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Welcome to my world brother. I ditched Adobe and Autodesk personally a while back. Went with Affinity (photo and Designer) which is a one time purchase and not even that expensive. I use Clip Studio for drawing. I Even use OpenOffice in leu of MS office.

I've been using Blender for years now. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with how good Blender is these days and how rapidly it grows. There is a plugin to make it control like Maya as well. They even have some stable diffusion AI render plugins now. You can even do compositing, 3d Sculpting, and 2d animation. It's really amazing. And. It's FREE

I wish you luck, and echo your frustration with the insane cost of these programs.
I use Affinity photo & clip studio paint as well (both on discount) I heard adobe or some other big boy Bought clip art studio 6 turning it into any BS software as a service.
backup your old install file & passwords.
As for open office. I uzsed for a while before going back office. In any case, I work from home & my work layptop has offiice 365 as part of deal our corp has with MS which also include outlook, Onedrive, notes, teams & some other stuff I did not reallly use much.

I do manage to get a perpurial licence of office pro 2019 but need some loops. But is 100% legit copy.