Relationship between AMD Mantle and Microsoft [NOT speculation]

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MANTLE and MICROSOFT

What is Microsoft's reaction to the Mantle move ? Some would guess they like it, some would guess they hate you for it...

RK - I can't obviously comment on Microsoft, but the thing I can say is we have a great relationship with Microsoft. We are one of the best partners they have in terms of moving DirectX forward. We move DirectX forward, we work with Microsoft on every version of DirectX and we will continue to do that and obviously we wouldn't surprise them with anything like Mantle so you can read between the lines.

Both us and Microsoft are committed to PC gaming and we want to do the right thing for game developers and end-users too. Right now this felt like the right answer, like the right solution to provide for what the game developers are asking during this transition and we are responding to that.

It is not about competition between APIs, we have ten times more resources working on DirectX than Mantle. We have twenty times more resources working on other standard APIs like OpenGL and OpenCL than on Mantle. To keep things in perspective, our support for industry standards hasn't diminished a bit; in fact if anything we'll be focusing more on that stuff. Mantle is solving this specific problem that specific several game developers have and we thought it's the right thing to help them.

Can you see a game developer providing Mantle as the only PC renderer, getting rid of DirectX renderer ?

RK - I can't see that happening. If you look at it practically, that doesn't make sense for any game developer. In fact no single API today makes sense for any game developer. Today if you look at a game engine, they have DirectX, they have OpenGL, more OpenGL ES to get to those other platforms, they have the low level consoles APIs whatever they are. So they at least have 4 paths these days at a minimum that a game engine supports if the game engine needs to be taken seriously. So I don't think it will be a single API world, because it is not a single API world today.
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You bolded the important part. Again, below is the MOST important part of that section with underline emphasis...

We move DirectX forward, we work with Microsoft on every version of DirectX and we will continue to do that and obviously we wouldn't surprise them with anything like Mantle so you can read between the lines.
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Ceger said:
You bolded the important part. Again, below is the MOST important part of that section with underline emphasis...
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so yeah, i had speculated that MS was given a heads up on the innards of Mantel (at least the "version" AMD is using) and i would guess that the X1 probably has some interface methods that provide Dx some level of interaction with it.
 
AdultInTheRoom said:
so yeah, i had speculated that MS was given a heads up on the innards of Mantel (at least the "version" AMD is using) and i would guess that the X1 probably has some bridged methods that provide Dx some level of interaction with it.
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It is believed to go deeper than that at a partnership level.
 
sharkboy1200 said:
The relationship is getting pretty serious. Just yesterday I saw AMD and MS at a furniture buying a king sized mattress. Not sure, but I'm pretty sure that I saw a ring on AMDs finger.
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Oh please....AMD is in it for the money, MS is in it for the looks. It'll never last!
 
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sharkboy1200 said:
The relationship is getting pretty serious. Just yesterday I saw AMD and MS at a furniture buying a king sized mattress. Not sure, but I'm pretty sure that I saw a ring on AMDs finger.
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you don't wanna know what I've seen them buying at the drugstore...
 
Here is the question, with MS's shift to a "devices and services" company. Do they buy AMD?
 
I accepted this the moment I saw it on anandtech, those guys don't joke around when it comes to tech...any speculation coming from there I take as fact lol
 
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