Report: Foxconn using forced student labor to build Sony’s PS4

Maybe they volunteered to work with the PS4 ? It could be like work experience or something. You can't always believe what you read in the papers and the net. Maybe after all this Sony will give them all a free PS4 knowing how generous they are :)
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Maybe they volunteered to work with the PS4 ? It could be like work experience or something. You can't always believe what you read in the papers and the net. Maybe after all this Sony will give them all a free PS4 knowing how generous they are :)

Foxconn has a reputation for this kind of thing, it's not the first time they've been in a news about poor practices at their plants.

Still, I find it hard to believe that Sony was all "Foxconn? With their reputation? SURE THING!". I can't imagine any company would have that kind of attitude about it, but anything's possible.
 
Foxconn has a reputation for this kind of thing, it's not the first time they've been in a news about poor practices at their plants.

Still, I find it hard to believe that Sony was all "Foxconn? With their reputation? SURE THING!". I can't imagine any company would have that kind of attitude about it, but anything's possible.
unfortunately for some companies cheaper costs outweigh ethical dilemmas. Some might just turn a blind eye to it, others might try to justify it because it might be the norm in that country. Without any accountability for the companies that use companies like Foxconn the cycle will just keep perpetuating itself. Not saying that is what Sony is doing, but at the same time Apple is like 50% or more of Foxconn's business and despite the issues that have come to light in the past that hasn't changed, and it's not like Apple wasn't aware of the situation, and I am sure their consumers made their dislike of the situations known.
 
So where are Xbox1's made Mexico or something ? But both companies would be doing a similar thing to get cheap labour but you just don't know the full story. Maybe it's true, or a little true or way off, only Sony would know for sure.
 
I'm sure Foxconn will take measures to solve this problem. :)
Afterall when they started getting trouble with too many workers commiting suicide jumping from the roof of their factories, they built suicide nets around the factory. :)

I think Foxconn is perhaps one of the better companies in China, in regards to human rights.
After the mass suicides in 2010, in addition to suicide-nets - Foxconn gave the workers substantial pay-increase - if the employes signed no-suicide contracts.
Leading Foxconn to become one of the better companies in China with regards to workplace-suicides, they're well below national average now,
From the 18 suicides in 2010, there were only 4 workplace suicides in 2011, 1 in 2012, and 2 in 2013.
I think there are somewhere between 900 thousand and a million employees in Foxconn(!!) - so it's alot better than most chineese corporations, if wikipedia is to believe. With so many potential employees, employee-benefits are probably low priority. :-/
Foxconn might be often in the headlines, but it's not really a bad company when compared to other chineese companies.
 
Maybe they volunteered to work with the PS4 ? It could be like work experience or something. You can't always believe what you read in the papers and the net. Maybe after all this Sony will give them all a free PS4 knowing how generous they are :)

You're too funny John :laugh:
 
So where are Xbox1's made Mexico or something ? But both companies would be doing a similar thing to get cheap labour but you just don't know the full story. Maybe it's true, or a little true or way off, only Sony would know for sure.
Are you saying that Foxconn might not be treating their employees horribly? I really hope you are not that naive.
 
Maybe they volunteered to work with the PS4 ? It could be like work experience or something. You can't always believe what you read in the papers and the net. Maybe after all this Sony will give them all a free PS4 knowing how generous they are :)
Well, that's one way to spin it.
 
They got a free copy of Knack.
 
Isn't all that just sort of saying they're the lesser of the evils? Hay, Italy was technically the least mass massacre compared to Japan and Germany.
 
Foxconn is the Devil, and Sony is in service of the enemy just like everyone else too unwilling to opt out of Foxconn's cheap manufacturing and assembly costs. Sony loses my respect for this. Choosing Foxconn is a terrible no-no.

I hope you don't buy electronics made in China....or clothes...or anything really.
 
I hope you don't buy electronics made in China....or clothes...or anything really.
None of these electronics companies have my respect, but I have to buy goods all the same because I have no choice. It's not like I have the choice of buying American-made goods when everything is Made In China.
 
None of these electronics companies have my respect, but I have to buy goods all the same because I have no choice. It's not like I have the choice of buying American-made goods when everything is Made In China.

I just found it odd that Sony just now lost your respect when the entire modern world relies on these cheap Chinese manufacturing companies to assemble their electronics/clothes/etc. Foxconn is pretty s***ty, but it's not like it's a better work condition for little Quan Xi at the factory down the street.
 
since foxconn is also used by other companies, I chose to put this thread here
interesting, none the less

http://www.gamesinasia.com/report-foxconn-using-forced-student-labor-to-build-sonys-ps4/


C. Custer | On 10, Oct 2013
If reports in the Chinese press are to be believed, Sony’s next-gen games console may be being assembled using some very outdated labor practices. According to Hong Kong’s Oriental Daily, thousands of students from an IT engineering program at the Xi’an Institute of Technology are being forced to work at Foxconn’s Yantai plant assembling the Sony Playstation 4. Students have been told if they refuse to participate, they lose six course credits, which effectively means they will not be able to graduate.
Officially, the program is considered an “internship” and it is publicly recognized and promoted by the school. But students have said that once they got to Foxconn, they were assigned to jobs that had no relation whatsoever to their fields of study, including grunt work like distribution and shipping. One student, for example, majored in finance and accounting but has been assigned to a job that entails glueing together parts of Sony’s Playstation 4. Another was assigned to a job that entails peeling of the PS4′s protective plastic and putting stickers on it. Still another, a computer science major, puts the PS4′s various cords and the instruction manual into the console’s box. Moreover, students say that their working hours are exactly the same as regular workers. The only difference is that unlike the workers, the students aren’t there voluntarily.
Oh my, shades of the Kathy Lee Gifford scandal and the recent Walmart/Chinese child labor scandal, and dozens of other such incidents, over the years, concerning Chinese labor practices. Capitalists decide to build factories and/or have goods manufactured in a Totalitarian State, and then feign horror at what is discovered every time someone inconveniently turns over a rock. It would all be so amusing if wasn't so disingenuous and sad.
 
Realistically tho, none of those products are of interest to me.
The you obviously didn't look over all of the products very closely.

How could this be of no interest to you!?:
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Hell, Americans are lucky if they can even sell goods at a Farmers' Market without being shutdown by the government, fined, or arrested.

In the city I live in a 10(?) year old girl got her lemonade stand shut down for lack of permit