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Wonder how word of mouth is going? Could have a serious impact on sales
 

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Well, they only had those 2 this year :really:
Wow I can't believe you left out MediEvil... but yea now that I think of it, big oof on the exclusives list. Days Gone was ok but but bored with it and never finished it. Death Stranding I have no interest in now so will probably either way for huge sale or even PS+ title. To be fair though outside of Gears 5 and Crackdown 3 I'm not sure what Xbox One has had either. Definitely feels like the generation is winding down?
 

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Wow I can't believe you left out MediEvil... but yea now that I think of it, big oof on the exclusives list. Days Gone was ok but but bored with it and never finished it. Death Stranding I have no interest in now so will probably either way for huge sale or even PS+ title. To be fair though outside of Gears 5 and Crackdown 3 I'm not sure what Xbox One has had either. Definitely feels like the generation is winding down?
Gears 5 and CD3 are the only 2 I can think of.
 

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Gears 4 debuted at number 4 in Oct 2016 and wasn't in the top 10 the next month, Gears 5 debuted at number 7 in September and isn't even in the top 20 in October. I'm not sure I buy Spencer saying it sold better, it may have had more people play it because they could just sign up to GP for $1 to try it out plus the already existing subscribers but it's hard to believe it sold that well. Yes I know digital is a thing but how many people would buy it digitally when they could just pay $1 to play it for a month?
 
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I won't believe a guy who has access to numbers because it's not the news I want
 
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I won't believe a guy who has access to numbers because it's not the news I want
He also has a reason to spin it differently, they never talk sales anymore it's always "engagement" etc. The bottom line is digital or not Gears is their 2nd biggest IP and it wasn't even in the top 20 in it's second month in their strongest market. I know it's cheap game pass trials and the fact that it's on the service at all that's causing that but it's hard to believe it actually sold better than a game that came out when digital wasn't quite as big and GP didn't exist. It has nothing to do with news I do or don't want to hear, it just doesn't make sense.

He does spin things that's part of his job, when he said the other day that xbox fans shouldn't worry about them making money on GP he knew that was BS. People aren't worried for MS's financial security they are worried that certain types of games won't get made because they wont be able to find a way for backend monetization like they can with GaaS and MP focused games.
 
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Only one person appears to be spinning. He didn't say engagement he said sales wise...


Phil Spencer: Gears 5 sold well for us. It sold better than Gears 4.
 
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Only one person appears to be spinning. He didn't say engagement he said sales wise...


Phil Spencer: Gears 5 sold well for us. It sold better than Gears 4.
Yes and I said I don't believe him, they don't talk sales anymore and the fact that the game isn't in the top 20 in their strongest territory by far should tell you that or that gears 4 was a flop. Did they talk sales during it's launch weekend? nope they talked about how many people played it, there is no doubt that GP is cannibalizing sales for that game, $1 trials and new entrant in their 2nd biggest IP should tell you what was going to happen. I count as one of the people who played it during the launch weekend but I only spent $2.00 to play it and had access to it for two months.They won't admit that GP would do that though because that's what they are pushing right now, they are willing to take a loss on it because they want to build it up to be a service based ecosystem and any negative news wouldn't be allowed.
 
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Spin all you want you've been negative on that game since day 1
 
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Yes and I said I don't believe him, they don't talk sales anymore and the fact that the game isn't in the top 20 in their strongest territory by far should tell you that or that gears 4 was a flop. Did they talk sales during it's launch weekend? nope they talked about how many people played it, there is no doubt that GP is cannibalizing sales for that game, $1 trials and new entrant in their 2nd biggest IP should tell you what was going to happen. I count as one of the people who played it during the launch weekend but I only spent $2.00 to play it and had access to it for two months.They won't admit that GP would do that though because that's what they are pushing right now, they are willing to take a loss on it because they want to build it up to be a service based ecosystem and any negative news wouldn't be allowed.
Gears 5 outsold Gears 4, fact.
 

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I would say it very likely sold less and to him he just means more people are playing. Its not like we will ever hear sales about any Microsoft game anymore anyway so it doesn't really matter.
 
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