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Are You Buying...

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  • 50/50

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  • Mostly Physical

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I work for geek squad and I can tell you that this is never update correctly, we get pallets of both system and they are sold as soon we put them up. Also they are many returns on both which I have to do a certified to make sure there was not fault to the companies that made them. I think people not used to the new system and then they try something and they get bricked. Most of them also come back on PS4 because people still didnt know that you have to pay now to play online. So instead they end up with a PS3.


Lol best buy as a source :)
 
At target last night - saw 2 ps4s and 3 X1s...

Not really sure why you keep posting these meaningless links to these sites... stock flows in and out of stores at variable rates. Depending on how good/ solid the counts are.. at best they might be 25% accurate a day out of a full week..
It's ok. We know he has a motive. They were there, fact. When I bought my Xbox One at target the online said sold out. There were a half dozen at target when I got mine. Lol
 
Actually, AC4 is 1080p with the latest patch, bump from 900p to 1080p with no performance hit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps4-ac4-patch-analysed-in-depth

I'm sure studios will now attempt to churn out at least 900p games for multiplatforms for the Xbox One now since there was this wave of criticism across the internet.

edit: oops, maybe you meant AC4 is 900p on the Xbox One? If so, disregard my post.

yep.. Referring to the x1 - should've included that in the statement... No worries;)
 
Would love to see pictures of these in stock PS4's as even the guys on GAF can't produce them. Also a quick check of nowinstock.net shows your post is suspect. You are either lying or in a very small market.

Btw just for fun...

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just read this.. Actually took a pic of the damn things cause I figured someone would state "pics or it didn't happen"...

I'll figure out how to post the pic on this site (unless I can upload a pic?)

edit: assuming I did this right from my phone...

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?res...uthkey=!AA2dTXA88Fi-S0k&v=3&ithint=photo,.jpg
 
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just read this.. Actually took a pic of the damn things cause I figured someone would state "pics or it didn't happen"...

I'll figure out how to post the pic on this site (unless I can upload a pic?)

edit: assuming I did this right from my phone...

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=86874019083C2CA1!3720&authkey=!AA2dTXA88Fi-S0k&v=3&ithint=photo,.jpg

That's cool man, thanks. But I was really talking to Soldier, I realize there are PS4's available but just not in equal quantities, like in the multiple large stacks at Best Buy's like these:

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They are not as equally available at the Best Buy's where Soldier95 lives like he was saying.
 
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That's cool man, thanks. But I was really talking to Soldier, I realize there are PS4's available but just not in equally, like in large stacks at Best Buy's like these:

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They are not as equally available at the Best Buy's where Soldier95 lives like he was saying.

That picture doesn't mean what you seem to think it means...
 
I guess you didn't realize that I said that on purposes....KNOWING you'd say something like this.

You know, because you seem to think there's a big difference between PS4 and XB1 visually....but not between.......ahhhh, forget about it. I think MCmasters is right......

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LMAO! That f***ing killed me! And Im drinking coffee too. Right through the nose I tell ya. RIGHT THROUGH THE NOSE!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Good to see Sony fanboys still fighting the good fight in the Xbox section. I hope Sony passes you guys some holiday bonuses for your hard work.
 
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Good to see Sony fanboys still fighting the good fight in the Xbox section. I hope Sony passes you guys some holiday bonuses for your hard work.
When there's no games to play, sales wars are the in thing to post about. Reading forums, the CoD and BF MP lobbies are still going strong (as usual). KZ SF has basically died off. The game has only been around a few months.
 
In the grand scheme of things this problem is for a small % of console gamers it seems. Xb1 is selling out and the internet has pointed the resolution issue out an infinite amount more then a truly bigger change they may not know. Online gaming on PS4 isn't free like on PS3. When Titanfall hits nobody will care about the res issue and if halo5 hits @ 1080p 60fps the issue will be lazy devs launch hiccups with the esram.
The resolutions debate, to me at least, is nitpicking at best. Its not a big deal if the Xbox One has to upscale some games or if its native 1080p, 900p etc. Its apparent the console does indeed provide 1080p games at least. I just believe that the devs are making the majority of the creative decisions this time around, instead of things being mandatory. The games look incredible. At best you lose out on very minor details but its in no way a deal breaker. Not once have we heard anyone say, :eek:"f*** all, these games look last gen! WTF?! Microsoft pulled a Wii counter-move out dey ass!"

Its the games that have always mattered. They still look "next-gen" and not last gen. No reviewer has stated anything in the realm of, "because the Xbox One version of ___________ is in 720p, the game looks last gen compared to the superior PS4 version which is in glorious 1080p, and as crisp as a freshly ironed pair of granny panties!"

Yeah, nah. Stating higher rez as some bullet point to create a line in the sand between these two consoles is nitpicking. We play games...not numbers. At least those of us who still enjoy games for what they provide.
 
Feb 2014 Japan PS4 release, will be fun to watch. Will there be tears of joy or sadness for the fanboys, can't wait.
 
PS4 versions of nba2k14, Injustice GAU, ASScreed, Bf4, COd ghosts and Trine are virtually identical if not better in some cases then the 1080p maxed out pc versions comparison videos prove you wrong... you fail
Dat pc trolling again lolz ima point it out every time you go ot/troll with the pc from now on..since you wanna lie/deny.

There is nothing now or in the future of games for the PS4/Xbox 1 that will have higher performance and graphical fidelity than the PC equivalent. And that I can say is a 100% true fact.
 
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When there's no games to play, sales wars are the in thing to post about. Reading forums, the CoD and BF MP lobbies are still going strong (as usual). KZ SF has basically died off. The game has only been around a few months.

Actually here on planet earth there are more games to play on the PS4 than on the X1, and more highly rated games on the PS4 too. Have you checked Metacritic lately?

Just keeping some of you guys honest with the theory that PS4 and X1 are "equally available." Honestly only one person really said that so those posts were really just for him.
 
There is nothing now or in the future of games for the PS4/Xbox 1 that will have higher performance and graphical fidelity than the PC equivalent. And that I can say is a 100% true fact.
Maybe not, but there will certainly be more games on consoles than PC for 2014. At least, more that Im personally interested in.
 
Actually here on planet earth there are more games to play on the PS4 than on the X1, and more highly rated games on the PS4 too. Have you checked Metacritic lately?

Just keeping some of you guys honest with the theory that PS4 and X1 are "equally available." Honestly only one person really said that so those posts were really just for him.
More games to play on the PS4 than the Xbox One? Perhaps you didnt read the latest? Here's the link. There are 25 games on the Xbox One just in 2014.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/10/25-xbox-one-games-to-play-in-2014

And Gawwd damn would you PLEASE stop using metacritic as some Holy Grail for gaming information, Yo?! f*** all!!:confused:

Believe it or not, some of us are just fine making our own decisions about what games we want to play or not without having to have some website tell us whats good for us. Lawd Jezzah boy!
 
Good to see Sony fanboys still fighting the good fight in the Xbox section. I hope Sony passes you guys some holiday bonuses for your hard work.

Sh*t, no kidding.

It's been a sad state of affairs this entire week -- this section of the forum.

I currently have 6 sony fanyboys on ignore list, who have a history of doing nothing but derail positive X1 threads because of their insecurities with their purchase. The Ps4.

They claim they don't want the X1 and exclusive games but spend more time and energy in those threads than any that actually have to do with the ps4. I urge forum members to do the same. Press that ignore button.

They haven't added any substance to the things they do like either, so it's not like you'll be missing out on any intelligent discussions in other sections. Think of it as preemptive measures for when the next positive news thread turns into a 8 paged "but..but.." angst whine fest.
 
Actually here on planet earth there are more games to play on the PS4 than on the X1, and more highly rated games on the PS4 too. Have you checked Metacritic lately?

Just keeping some of you guys honest with the theory that PS4 and X1 are "equally available." Honestly only one person really said that so those posts were really just for him.

so you have insight into exactly how many PS4s versus X1s have been produced, distributed, and know an exact breakdown to the number of units per store currently available?

I'm impressed...
 
Sh*t, no kidding.

It's been a sad state of affairs this entire week -- this section of the forum.

I currently have 6 sony fanyboys on ignore list, who have a history of doing nothing but derail positive X1 threads because of their insecurities with their purchase. The Ps4.

They claim they don't want the X1 and exclusive games but spend more time and energy in those threads than any that actually have to do with the ps4. I urge forum members to do the same. Press that ignore button.

They haven't added any substance to the things they do like either, so it's not like you'll be missing out on any intelligent discussions in other sections. Think of it as preemptive measures for when the next positive news thread turns into a 8 paged "but..but.." angst whine fest.
It's getting pretty comical at this point to be honest. They do this on every forum they're on. Which begs the question if PS4 is so great why aren't they playing it? Why aren't they in threads about PS4 games? Why are they always in the Xbox section doing their unpaid shilling routine?
 
Whats wrong with saying Sonys PS4 sold better & XBOX stock are readily available, which is a clear indication that the lead Sony have is not due to MS having insufficient supply.

If people took off their Tinted glasses, they can see that actually beside Valliance, & maybe another 2 or 3 I may have missed, most of us are xbox supporters, or at least neutral.

Being supporter doesn't mean agreeing with every decision MS made, or not criticizing any of the decisions, action, or badmouth & nitpick on the rival companies.
 
It's getting pretty comical at this point to be honest. They do this on every forum they're on. Which begs the question if PS4 is so great why aren't they playing it? Why aren't they in threads about PS4 games? Why are they always in the Xbox section doing their unpaid shilling routine?
Would you spend hard earned money on Knack? Or Killzone which has already dwindled down to 2,000 online players? When I played World at War, it still had 3,000-5,000 players online at any given time...... two years later when MW2 and BO were out.
 
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I cannot agree that PS4 have better games. Have it been so, I would have bought one,or at least place an order.


Buy PS4 to play 7.5 Killzone, or Knack. No thanks.

I fully expect overall, there will be better games on XBOX one, by a distance as well, at least in 2014 (as long as you do not take into account of maybe slightly visually "inferior" version of some 3rd party games)

The quality of the games could be a deciding factor for sales, post launch now in 2014. Quality of games available is the main reason I bought 360 in the first place. Saw Gears 1 & its rave reviews, & went out to buy 360.

Funny thing is, its the subtle advertising of gears in Die Hard 4 that made me look into Gears reviews.
 
Whats wrong with saying Sonys PS4 sold better & XBOX stock are readily available, which is a clear indication that the lead Sony have is not due to MS having insufficient supply.

If people took off their Tinted glasses, they can see that actually beside Valliance, & maybe another 2 or 3 I may have missed, most of us are xbox supporters, or at least neutral.

Being supporter doesn't mean agreeing with every decision MS made, or not criticizing any of the decisions, action, or badmouth & nitpick on the rival companies.
The whole "X1 has tons of stock lying around" is a funny issue Sony gamers bring up. Sony has spread it's stock thin across 48 countries (50+ by end of this month), while MS has concentrated stock in 13 countries. If it was the other way around, I'm sure the stock situation would be different. So it's not surprising stock situations are different.

Sony gamers are just sore PS4 has a lack of games and the quality isn't mindblowing. And the whole 3:1 ratio war has been a total face plant. And considering how bad Knack and KZ are, they are in no position to boast it's better than Ryse, KI, F5 or DR3..... these are the 6 key games being promoted..... Not Peggle 2, Powerstar Golf, or HD versions of Flower or Sound Shapes. Notice how all those ratio war polls have disappeared.

So it's come down to "X1 has stock available means they aren't selling". That's funny because Honda Civics are among the best selling cars every years, yet every dealership has tons of them on the lot. Just because the lots have many doesn't mean they aren't selling. Coke and Pepsi are the best selling soft drinks, yet it's pretty much impossible for stores to ever sell them out. There always seems to be bottles and cases around.

What they don't realize is that the more they promote X1 is available (complete with links), the more likely an on the fence gamer with no loyalty may just end up buying an X1 because they are easier to find.

Just to show close it is in sales when it's a more apples to apples comparison, both X1 and PS4 were very hard to find in November in the US. PS4 sold 1.1M in 2 weeks. X1 sold 900k in 1 week. Looks pretty close to me. And X1 is $100 more.
 
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There is nothing now or in the future of games for the PS4/Xbox 1 that will have higher performance and graphical fidelity than the PC equivalent. And that I can say is a 100% true fact.
Except for the exclusives Carnac the magnificent...
 
Would you spend hard earned money on Knack? Or Killzone which has already dwindled down to 2,000 online players? When I played World at War, it still had 3,000-5,000 players online at any given time...... two years later when MW2 and BO were out.
I spent my hard earned money on KZ2, a mistake i would never make again. It's funny though as the other day i was told how KZ is selling better than X1 games yet not that many people are actually playing it online.
Whats wrong with saying Sonys PS4 sold better & XBOX stock are readily available, which is a clear indication that the lead Sony have is not due to MS having insufficient supply.

If people took off their Tinted glasses, they can see that actually beside Valliance, & maybe another 2 or 3 I may have missed, most of us are xbox supporters, or at least neutral.

Being supporter doesn't mean agreeing with every decision MS made, or not criticizing any of the decisions, action, or badmouth & nitpick on the rival companies.
What's wrong with being an unpaid shill?

What's wrong with hanging around the section of the forum for the console you claim to have no interest in just to start s***?

Honestly that's all these people are doing. They aren't saying anything of worth. They aren't adding anything to the conversation.
 
I spent my hard earned money on KZ2, a mistake i would never make again. It's funny though as the other day i was told how KZ is selling better than X1 games yet not that many people are actually playing it online.
Always be extra cautious about Sony PR and hype.... whether it's from Sony, a studio, or its fans.

Every company and fanbase will of course promote their products best way possible, but Sony's camp's hype and claims are typically least reliable.

I'd say overall, the PC camp in PC forums are most reliable. The fan wars are small and when gamers and web sites get into benchmarking and stuff, I find the typical PC gamer/PC site to be more informative and more in tune about getting great gaming, performance and helping each other get the most out of their rig. A lot more honesty.
 
I cannot agree that PS4 have better games. Have it been so, I would have bought one,or at least place an order.


Buy PS4 to play 7.5 Killzone, or Knack. No thanks.

I fully expect overall, there will be better games on XBOX one, by a distance as well, at least in 2014 (as long as you do not take into account of maybe slightly visually "inferior" version of some 3rd party games)

The quality of the games could be a deciding factor for sales, post launch now in 2014. Quality of games available is the main reason I bought 360 in the first place. Saw Gears 1 & its rave reviews, & went out to buy 360.

Funny thing is, its the subtle advertising of gears in Die Hard 4 that made me look into Gears reviews.

Right. "Inferior" is kind of strong isnt it? I mean a game doesnt suddenly become "inferior" because the resolution may be different from one version to the next. Now if the experience is greatly crippled because the graphical fidelity is painstakingly less impressive from one platform towards another, thats a whole other story.

This damn "entitled" frame of mind coming from gamers this gen, is becoming a bit ridiculous.
 
Always be extra cautious about Sony PR and hype.... whether it's from Sony, a studio, or its fans.

Every company and fanbase will of course promote their products best way possible, but Sony's camp's hype and claims are typically least reliable.

I'd say overall, the PC camp in PC forums are most reliable. The fan wars are small and when gamers and web sites get into benchmarking and stuff, I find the typical PC gamer/PC site to be more informative and more in tune about getting great gaming, performance and helping each other get the most out of their rig. A lot more honesty.
It comes off as a type of "Hive Mind" with Sony gamers. As of now, the PS4 isnt being shouted from the roof tops because of the games. Its being hailed as "the Return of the King" because it has a lower price point, minor upgrade in resolutions (with some games) and hardware specs. Games and experiences with the console itself hardly/rarely garner any bullet points, even with Sony gamers. Not sure they really notice that. I do...
 
So what happens when Microsoft finally launches in the same countries that the PlayStation 4 launched in? To think the gap will continue to widen at this point nothing more than throwing darts. The PlayStation 4 sold more than the Xbox One because they had more consoles available overall in far more countries. We won't have a clue what the trend of gamers is until the markets are saturated which will be in a few months. The 4.2>3.+ speaks nothing other than Sony had more consoles available. The week headstart didn't hurt. Not 1 million hurt but it definitely swayed the numbers.

This really doesn't make much sense. If Sony didn't launch in all of those places then they would have had more consoles on shelves in US/UK etc and they still would have sold more considering they were sold out in those places as it was.
 
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