Well, US is where MS is the strongest and it only had a difference of ~600k units (4.8 million vs 4.2 million of Sony's). And with Sony announcing 9.7 million total worldwide, I highly doubt MS could sell more than 4.9 million.
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Well, US is where MS is the strongest and it only had a difference of ~600k units (4.8 million vs 4.2 million of Sony's). And with Sony announcing 9.7 million total worldwide, I highly doubt MS could sell more than 4.9 million.
For the hundredth time that's IMPOSSIBLE as the PS4 sold over 1 million in 24 hours/NA the X1 didn't.
Anything else in the face of this reality is spinning the fact.
It's actually not impossible, it's really simple math:
Xbox One: 1.8m / 40 = 45k daily average
PlayStation 4: 2.0m / 47 = 43K daily average
Daily average pace for Xbox One is higher than PS4's.
Therefore, Xbox One is selling faster than PS4 (per NPD results).
Would you look at that?!*sniff sniff*
My wittle troll is all growed up! Just brings a tear to my eye you know? *sniff sniff*
Tito, get me some tissue.....
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You said fastest selling are we changing our wording now?
Daily averages I never spoke on.
I just know the record breaking numbers the PS4 did in NA/24 hours made it the fastest selling.
*sniff sniff*
My wittle troll is all growed up! Brings a tear to my eye you know? *sniff sniff*
Tito, get me some tissue.....
Me defending what is right when it comes to formats I enjoy and seeing and predicting PS4 success doesn't make me a troll.
Yaw are lucky I don't promote my fav format.(the pc)
Well everyone can shutup cause 3DS is the bestselling system this year with near 12 million units sold in the US alone.
damn thats an average of near 1 mill a month.
http://kotaku.com/nintendo-3ds-was-top-selling-system-of-2013-because-it-1503082139
damn thats an average of near 1 mill a month.
http://kotaku.com/nintendo-3ds-was-top-selling-system-of-2013-because-it-1503082139
Don't try and explain simple math to them. They don't get it or just don't want to hear it. All they hear is the PS4 is in the lead by 1.2 million. They ignore the facts unless it suits their argument.
My statement was more of a response to Intellivision's claim that xbox one will have the best software sales and indicated that it's currently not the case since 9.7 million was already announced by Sony for the PS4. If MS was close to it or have surpassed that like you said, there would've been an announcement since we all know how they want as much victories as possible, yeah? Both you and I don't have the confirmed software sales number for the Xbox One but we do have the PS4's so I'm technically not wrong. Feel free to prove otherwise though and I'll gladly accept and concede my mistake.
900k
COD
650k
BF4
550k
DR3
FM5
500k
450k
RYSE
400k
25
AC4
350k
2K14
200k
14
150k
NFS
LEGO
JD2014
100
Damn, that cod: ghosts though...
It equals that I have 30 mins for lunch there are 20 pages of posts and 50 posts per page. I don't have the time. Have any luck finding ANY posts that PS4 owners who only own that console giving X1 props. Obviously you have a lot more free time than me.
I'm done with it. Sticking to X1 threads only again. Well can't really say that because a lot if those threads are full of PS stuff also.
Software compilation gaf: link
Wii
Just Dance 2014 >800K
Wii U
Lego City Undercover - 242K
Pikmin 3 - 210K
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 93K
Rayman Legends - 88K
Sonic: Lost World - 82K
The Wonderful 101 - 49K
Game & Wario - 36K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 16K
3DS
Pokemon X - 1.63M
Pokemon Y - 1.54M
Luigi's Mansion 2: Dark Moon >1M
Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 910K
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team - 472K
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3DS - 386K
Fire Emblem: Awakening - 370K
LEGO City 3DS - 365K
Mario Party: Island Tour - 252k
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 224K
Sonic Lost Worlds 3DS - 97k
Shin Megami Tensei IV - 96K
Project X Zone - 87K
Rune Factory 4 - 47k
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers - 36K
Etrian Odyssey 4 - 36K
Brain Age - 26K
PS3
The Last of Us - 1473K
Call of Duty: Ghosts <800K
God of War: Ascension - 783K
Kingdom Hearts 1.5HD - 438K
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch - 329K
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time - 208K
Beyond: Two Souls - 202K
Gran Turismo 6 <180K
Tales of Xillia - 156K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 53K
Rayman Legends - 30K
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F - 16K
PS4
Call of Duty: Ghosts >800K
Battlefield 4 - between 550K and 600K
Assassin's Creed 4 - between 500K and 550K
NBA 2K14 - between 400K and 450K
Killzone Shadowfall - between 400K and 450K
Madden NFL 25 - between 350K and 400K
Need for Speed - between 250K and 300K
FIFA 14 - between 200K and 250K
Knack - between 150K and 200K
Lego Marvel Superheroes - between 100k and 150k
PSV
Killzone: Mercenaries - 102K
Soul Sacrifice - 72K
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time - 67k
Tearaway -50K
Rayman Legends - 20k
Xbox 360
Minecraft - 1862K
Gears of War: Judgement - 764K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 55K
Rayman Legends - 42K
Xbox One
Call of Duty: Ghosts - between 800K and 900K
Battlefield 4 - between 550K and 650K
Dead Rising 3 - 526K
Forze Motorsport 5 - 457K
Ryse - 431K
Madden NFL 25 - between 350K and 400K
Assassin's Creed 4 - between 350K and 400K
NBA 2K14 - between 200K and 350K
FIFA 14 - between 150K and 200K
Need for Speed - between 100K and 150K
Lego Marvel Superheroes - between 100K and 150K
Just Dance 2014 - between 100K and 150K
Wii
Just Dance 2014 >800K
Wii U
Lego City Undercover - 242K
Pikmin 3 - 210K
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 93K
Rayman Legends - 88K
Sonic: Lost World - 82K
The Wonderful 101 - 49K
Game & Wario - 36K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 16K
3DS
Pokemon X - 1.63M
Pokemon Y - 1.54M
Luigi's Mansion 2: Dark Moon >1M
Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 910K
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team - 472K
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3DS - 386K
Fire Emblem: Awakening - 370K
LEGO City 3DS - 365K
Mario Party: Island Tour - 252k
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 224K
Sonic Lost Worlds 3DS - 97k
Shin Megami Tensei IV - 96K
Project X Zone - 87K
Rune Factory 4 - 47k
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers - 36K
Etrian Odyssey 4 - 36K
Brain Age - 26K
PS3
The Last of Us - 1473K
Call of Duty: Ghosts <800K
God of War: Ascension - 783K
Kingdom Hearts 1.5HD - 438K
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch - 329K
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time - 208K
Beyond: Two Souls - 202K
Gran Turismo 6 <180K
Tales of Xillia - 156K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 53K
Rayman Legends - 30K
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F - 16K
PS4
Call of Duty: Ghosts >800K
Battlefield 4 - between 550K and 600K
Assassin's Creed 4 - between 500K and 550K
NBA 2K14 - between 400K and 450K
Killzone Shadowfall - between 400K and 450K
Madden NFL 25 - between 350K and 400K
Need for Speed - between 250K and 300K
FIFA 14 - between 200K and 250K
Knack - between 150K and 200K
Lego Marvel Superheroes - between 100k and 150k
PSV
Killzone: Mercenaries - 102K
Soul Sacrifice - 72K
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time - 67k
Tearaway -50K
Rayman Legends - 20k
Xbox 360
Minecraft - 1862K
Gears of War: Judgement - 764K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 55K
Rayman Legends - 42K
Xbox One
Call of Duty: Ghosts - between 800K and 900K
Battlefield 4 - between 550K and 650K
Dead Rising 3 - 526K
Forze Motorsport 5 - 457K
Ryse - 431K
Madden NFL 25 - between 350K and 400K
Assassin's Creed 4 - between 350K and 400K
NBA 2K14 - between 200K and 350K
FIFA 14 - between 150K and 200K
Need for Speed - between 100K and 150K
Lego Marvel Superheroes - between 100K and 150K
Just Dance 2014 - between 100K and 150K
s***! Did RYSE sell more than KZ possibly? Looks as if it may have. Pretty damned impressive none-the-less if I do say so myself. WOOT!
Someone filled in this pie chart that is almost 100% similar to the one creamsugar posted.
Link
If it's close these are the numbers:
Xbox one 909k
Ps4 900k
360 643k
Wii u 480k
PS3 299k
Wii 150k
This also aligns with MS making up 46% of the hardware market and 54% for sony/Nintendo as reported by NPD.
Link
If it's close these are the numbers:
Xbox one 909k
Ps4 900k
360 643k
Wii u 480k
PS3 299k
Wii 150k
This also aligns with MS making up 46% of the hardware market and 54% for sony/Nintendo as reported by NPD.
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That's just it - you can't claim you're not technically wrong, because you don't know for a fact one way or the other - and that's my only contention, bro. I don't disagree that it's likely... but we don't know, and you claimed that Sony's sold more software, which is a claim to knowledge you cannot back up with facts. Having the facts from one side along with some evidence of numbers from the other doesn't make your statement true. It implies that it's true, but it's a fact. Not yet. We need the data, and we don't have it.
I think the safest thing to say is simply that Sony's likely sold more software at this point, and probably be a similar ratio as the number as their WW console sale victory.
I can agree with this.
My initial post was just to say that intellivision's of Xbox one potential best software sales is not true either.
But yeah, I can change my statement to the PS4 is more likely to have the best software sales to date than the Xbox one worldwide.
As far as attach rate goes, we know Xbox One is leading PS4 here in NA, so it's possible that's the story world-wide... but in any case, I think it's safe to say that X1's portfolio of titles has resonated better with NA than PS4's (higher attach rate, and more total software sold even with LESS total consoles sold).
...and that lends credibility to the claims I and others have made that X1's portfolio of games is better. :-)
EDIT: Some numbers from GAF which look correct:
XB1 US LTD: 909+908 = 1817
1,817,000/40 = 45,425 sold per day (average)
PS4 US LTD: 1138+858 = 1996
1,996,000/47 = 42,468 sold per day (average)
Software
XB1 Total: 4800
XB1 1st/2nd Party: 1500
XB1 3rd Party: 3300
PS4 Total: 4200
PS4 1st/2nd Party: 600
PS4 3rd Party: 3600
Tie Ratio
XB1 Total: 2.64
XB1 1st/2nd Party: 0.82
XB1 3rd Party: 1.82
PS4 Total: 2.10
PS4 1st/2nd Party: 0.30
PS4 3rd Party: 1.80
Definitely a better attach rate for Microsoft's console.
...and that lends credibility to the claims I and others have made that X1's portfolio of games is better. :-)
EDIT: Some numbers from GAF which look correct:
XB1 US LTD: 909+908 = 1817
1,817,000/40 = 45,425 sold per day (average)
PS4 US LTD: 1138+858 = 1996
1,996,000/47 = 42,468 sold per day (average)
Software
XB1 Total: 4800
XB1 1st/2nd Party: 1500
XB1 3rd Party: 3300
PS4 Total: 4200
PS4 1st/2nd Party: 600
PS4 3rd Party: 3600
Tie Ratio
XB1 Total: 2.64
XB1 1st/2nd Party: 0.82
XB1 3rd Party: 1.82
PS4 Total: 2.10
PS4 1st/2nd Party: 0.30
PS4 3rd Party: 1.80
Definitely a better attach rate for Microsoft's console.
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It looks like we've got a repeat of last gen. Whether the Xbox One sells more than the PS4 or not it just has a better attach rate. Microsoft has a stranglehold on the market. People might ask why's that? It's simple, Xbox Live still beats PSN. The Xbox One's controller is still preferred over the DS4. Even though the controller is much better this time around for Sony's machine.
Facts are facts and from what i'm seeing the Xbox brand is still the go to all around brand. The first on Xbox Call of Duty DLC. That franchise isn't going anywhere people and it's still the most popular today. The Xbox brand is all about growth. Microsoft is growing their brand while Sony is holding on hoping that there's a slice of pie left moving forward. Microsoft is taking over the living room.
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Yep. Funny people keep saying its hard to find despite sales showing millions have got hold of one in uch a short spae of time.
I don't know where you live but I couldn't find/saw one in-stock here in Los Angles or Orange County during the holidays. If it was in-stock everywhere, then why was the PS4 going for $100+ more than retail price on eBay during the holidays? I'm sure I remembered someone here posted an article that the PS4 sold twice the amount of units than X1 on eBay.
Have you seen the stock checker site below? 16,000+ replies (peeps looking for a PS4) for the PS4 compared to 2,500 replies for X1.
I was constantly at http://www.zoolert.com/videoconsoles/playstation-4/trackers/ during the month of December looking for a PS4 for a friend and if it was in stock, it sold out pretty quickly.
Dude the PS4 was on the front page on slickdeals.com which is crazy (it's not supposed too since it's MSRP).
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/110268/amazon---back-in-stock-sony-playstation-4-console?#comments
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