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Are You Buying...

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The Wolf King said:
Yep. Funny people keep saying its hard to find despite sales showing millions have got hold of one in uch a short spae of time.
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Sony just didn't produce or shift more units for us folks in the US during the holidays which explains below :smash:

According to resellers on slickdeals, it appears like the PS4 was a money maker for them.
PS4 since launch - At least $100+ in profits.
X1 after Bf - break even or a loss (excluding day one edition - $100+ like PS4) because it was available mostly everywhere.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6325992-next-gen-console-xbox-one-and-ps4-resale-thread?
 
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JinCA said:
It is hard to find, whenever new stock came it was purchased very quickly.
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Yes. Thats right. Anyway stock has been empty in Germany since I can remember. I heard next batch of shipment comes in Feburary. In contrast Stock are available for XBOX one even before Christmas.

latest Data from germany (few days old) is PS4:XBOX ONE at 250k:100k so Sony difinately not stock PS4 les than XBOX ONE. However the unit stocked is not sufficent to meet demand currently. OK, granted, our market is no where near as big as NA, so our sales may not make a signicant impact on sales, but its just to give an idea. But I do believe the same situation is echoed by our Neighbors.

I do expect XBOX ONE to make some ground until the next shipment from Sony to this side of the Atlantic at least.

I am just giving the situation on the ground at my location, & the information has no bias towards any console.

But things can change quick with games release, better package/offer/price adjustments.
 
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Dang, the fur was really flying here last night, shows we've got a crew with some deep concern over sales figures. Lots of backtracking and damage control, this "war" is far from over as some have been stating for the past 8 months.

The hardware numbers come as no big surprise but some of the software numbers are amazing, should get devs even more excited about shifting time to the new consoles. But the one that stands out like no other is GT6 selling 180,000...about the same as Knack Dammmmmmmnnnnnn....the fall of Polyphony is complete and Lord Forza (457,000 sales) has beyotch slapped it.
 
Oblong said:
Dang, the fur was really flying here last night, shows we've got a crew with some deep concern over sales figures. Lots of backtracking and damage control, this "war" is far from over as some have been stating for the past 8 months.

The hardware numbers come as no big surprise but some of the software numbers are amazing, should get devs even more excited about shifting time to the new consoles. But the one that stands out like no other is GT6 selling 180,000...about the same as Knack Dammmmmmmnnnnnn....the fall of Polyphony is complete and Lord Forza (457,000 sales) has beyotch slapped it.
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GT series deserve the kick between the legs, & a reality check, in my opinion. Its riding on past sucess for way too long, & finally, people come to realise its not the pinicle of racing anymore. SAme would happen to Mr Adam Sandler if he did not get his act together.

But 180k is a big fall. Thats weekly sales or?

Anway, back to your first Paragraph. Of course its still early & things can change fast, this is clear, which make this 'war' even more interesting. The same cannot be said of WiiU, where people do not even talk about its comparsion as few expect a turnaround for them.
 
starseeker said:
GT series deserve the kick between the legs, & a reality check, in my opinion. Its riding on past sucess for way too long, & finally, people come to realise its not the pinicle of racing anymore. SAme would happen to Mr Adam Sandler if he did not get his act together.

But 180k is a big fall. Thats weekly sales or?

Anway, back to your first Paragraph. Of course its still early & things can change fast, this is clear, which make this 'war' even more interesting. The same cannot be said of WiiU, where people do not even talk about its comparsion as few expect a turnaround for them.
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The 180,000 is December NPD for the month and GT6 released Dec 6th so it was basically available for the entire month including Christmas.

Just read that the 457,000 for Forza didn't even include the LE so it was actually much closer to 500,000...and those sales don't take into account release date/preorder sales since it came out in November plus the install base differences between PS3 & XB1 make the disparity between the 2 is nothing short of incredible. Lord Forza is indisputably the King of Console Racers now (in NA ;) )
 
Jay Mammoth said:
Well everyone can shutup cause 3DS is the bestselling system this year with near 12 million units sold in the US alone.
damn thats an average of near 1 mill a month.
http://kotaku.com/nintendo-3ds-was-top-selling-system-of-2013-because-it-1503082139
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3DS is a different market Nintendo is always at the top with its portables :)
But it is in impressive to be selling good in the face of all the android and ios crap.
They might wanna change a thing or two just in case(maybe cheaper games?) Anyway go Nintendo.
 
PS4 is fastest selling and best selling console on Amazon. It's crazy.
 
Oblong said:
The 180,000 is December NPD for the month and GT6 released Dec 6th so it was basically available for the entire month including Christmas.

Just read that the 457,000 for Forza didn't even include the LE so it was actually much closer to 500,000...and those sales don't take into account release date/preorder sales since it came out in November plus the install base differences between PS3 & XB1 make the disparity between the 2 is nothing short of incredible. Lord Forza is indisputably the King of Console Racers now (in NA ;) )
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FORza is the better series for me. I used to own PS1 & PS2, & have all GT games up to 3, but they bored me to death. The horrible loading time doesn't help at all. Once I got my XBOX OG, & Forza one, I never looked back.

The metacritic score also have every equalivent Forza game beating GT in score. In my humble opinion, had GT series not been Sony exclusive, & Forza MS, no one will even be making comparsion.

Though I think there a few things GT does better, which are day/night & weather, or you are big Japanese import fan.
 
is anyone surprised KZ sold well? The only AAA exclusive competition is... knack. lol
 
VaLLiancE said:
I kinda am as its not all that.
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its a graphics showcase, since there is no other good exclusives for PS4 majority bought KZ with it.

i would guess 50% of the buyers knew it was gonna be an average/dull shooter but still bought it
 
VaLLiancE said:
Facts are the DS4 has been chosen in more online polls... the lying is strooooonnngggg with this one!
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Online polls, lolz. I would put money that 90% of the respondents to those polls haven't even held both controllers to compare much less spent any real time with BOTH to make a qualified opinion. Having spent a good time with both controllers myself, I can personally say that both are great and the differences are minor.
 
Yeah, lol at online polls. But also lol at claiming xb1 controller is still the preffered controller. Neither claims are factual in any way.
 
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Oblong said:
Online polls, lolz. I would put money that 90% of the respondents to those polls haven't even held both controllers to compare much less spent any real time with BOTH to make a qualified opinion. Having spent a good time with both controllers myself, I can personally say that both are great and the differences are minor.
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Why aren't yo quoting him!? I at least have backing to my defenses or arguments maybe just maybe its because....

 
people love DS4 cause of how big of an improvement it was over DS3 (cause DS3 was really s***) and since most of those people never touched a xbox controller they never know how good x360 controller was

X1 controller goes sideways compared to x360 (doesnt improve much, changes some stuff keeping it still as amazing) so the reactions arent as hardcore or strong

when playing shooters X1 controller still feels like home. DS4 is better than DS3 without doubt but it isnt better than X1 or x360 controller still
 
Dibils said:
its a graphics showcase, since there is no other good exclusives for PS4 majority bought KZ with it.

i would guess 50% of the buyers knew it was gonna be an average/dull shooter but still bought it
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BF4 PS4 looks better... Its above average IMO but not all that. I gave it a 8.2... I think with more time its a 8.0
 
starseeker said:
GT series deserve the kick between the legs, & a reality check, in my opinion. Its riding on past sucess for way too long, & finally, people come to realise its not the pinicle of racing anymore. SAme would happen to Mr Adam Sandler if he did not get his act together.

But 180k is a big fall. Thats weekly sales or?

Anway, back to your first Paragraph. Of course its still early & things can change fast, this is clear, which make this 'war' even more interesting. The same cannot be said of WiiU, where people do not even talk about its comparsion as few expect a turnaround for them.
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That 180k should be LTD and this is why I think it should have been a PS4 launch title, it would have sold at least 2-3x more.

So these are the present numbers that sound about right:

1. 3DS - ?
2. XB1 - 908K
3. PS4 - ~860K
4. 360 - 643K
5. WIIU - 481K
6. PS3 - 299K
7. WII
8. PSV - ~95K

Pretty impressive overall for both ms and sony. The xbox one being able to sell the same amount as launch month while being more expensive. How sony got 860k is mind blowing to me since it's been sold out as soon as it was available throughout the month.
 
VaLLiancE said:
BF4 PS4 looks better... Its above average IMO but not all that. I gave it a 8.2... I think with more time its a 8.0
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i agree

but videos released of KZ were far more impressive since they were showing campaign compared to MP shown for BF4.
 
Dibils said:
i agree

but videos released of KZ were far more impressive since they were showing campaign compared to MP shown for BF4.
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Ohh well comparing the 2's campaigns visuals they are about even IMO.
I was one who was super hyped for KZSF...but it didn't get close to my expectations :( Bring a non rushed KZ4 plz.
Maybe the co-op DLC will help things?
 
Plainview said:
Absolute monster sales for the 3Ds, Xbox One and PS4.
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Better sales for next gen console, hopefully means developers will start developing for true next gen games (as oppose to cross gen games. You can only do so much with higher res texture 6 better lighting when you are still using last gen polygons meshes).
 
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Holy f***!!?!? Xbox One is owning. Sold the most next gen consoles in December NPD, sold the most exclusives, sold the most COD and BF, highest software attach rate, largest amount of game and console revenue.

Jesus age f***...it's rokken like dokken.

so-much-THIS-fireworks.gif
 
David said:
It equals that I have 30 mins for lunch there are 20 pages of posts and 50 posts per page. I don't have the time. Have any luck finding ANY posts that PS4 owners who only own that console giving X1 props. Obviously you have a lot more free time than me.
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So I have more free time because I keep calling you on your fud.lmao
Like I said how does some PS4 owners not giving XB1 props equal saying XB1 sucks. Oh that is right it doesn't but you keep up that good fight.lol

The XB1 seems like a great system and is selling like hotcakes. I have not had a chance to try one but as I have said I will have one eventually because I don't see the point in limiting myself game wise by only having one system. Does that make you feel all warm and fuzzy.:p
 
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Holy fvck, the PS4 is owning. Fastest selling WW, fastest/most popular selling on Amazon for both console and software. It's crazy. More people playing BF4 on PS4 (and more playing on PS3 as well). Insane.
 
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