Just a fact, going for 60fps requires other things be sacrificed, same with the probably fake rumor of Halo infinite going for 120fps. The reply was to people talking about how games will LOOK not play.
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Just a fact, going for 60fps requires other things be sacrificed, same with the probably fake rumor of Halo infinite going for 120fps. The reply was to people talking about how games will LOOK not play.
Locked 30 is fine with me but I'm sure there will be a lot more 60fps as time goes on and engines are brought up to speed with the new consoles and handling more threads.
Until you actually get the hardware, i think it's best you just sit back and leave it to the professionals and, if you like, wait until you're actually shocked. For now, we'll leave that on the table.
Or maybe the goal to hit those speeds were just too daunting to achieve, like Cerny said, and so Microsoft took the tried and proven approach by just going wider.
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Watched that video recently. He’s very fair imo. Can’t fault the hardware or services, just got to bring it with the first party games which I think MS have heard loud and clear.
Until you actually get the hardware, i think it's best you just sit back and leave it to the professionals and, if you like, wait until you're actually shocked. For now, we'll leave that on the table.
Or maybe the goal to hit those speeds were just too daunting to achieve, like Cerny said, and so Microsoft took the tried and proven approach by just going wider.
No, I think it's patently obvious that Sony got pushed into a corner on backward compatibility (or painted themselves in if you prefer). Well, but I'm not an engineer in this console so let's see what Cerny said: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7133...PS3. But that's of course extremely expensive.
To provide bc games they have to have the same configuration, which means 36 compute units - they could do like pro v. PS4 and doubled to 72 but that would be expensive - maybe they'll do that for PS5 pro. So yeah, their goal had to be higher clocks if they wanted to be anywhere near their competition, since their implementation of bc is a constraint that eliminated any other option. Or, as val like to say, the PS4 is holding back the design on the PS5.
Cerny believes by going wider, keeping the CUs fully busy would become problematic to the performance at which they wanted their games to achieve. That is why he chose the 36CUs, not because he had to due to BC. That, again, would be your assumption as to why he did that.
And even at those speeds, it is still you, once again, that is assuming why they wouldn't work, and not the engineers behind its design.
Don't distress Sony fans, just wait 5 years and you'll prob geta pro version/ungimped console again.
What do the CUs have to do with BC? My guess is they’re going the software route like MS for emulation.
Arnold's third best movie physique (not counting pumping iron), only beaten by Red Heat and Conan the Destroyer.
Exactly! It doesn't have anything to do with it. It is simply more cost effective but packs enough power and, based on Cerny, more efficient at the same time to achieve what they need for a next-gen experience. That is it.
Sony's BC is similar but not the same. They actually function in opposite directions, really.
Sony (Cerny) have been praised for the PS5's intelligent design. I doubt that the design was in any way reactionary.
I'm in "wait and see" mode when it comes to power and efficiency. It should be interesting.
I'm in "wait and see" mode when it comes to power and efficiency. It should be interesting.
Okay, but when they had to, in the same generation, have compatibility between PS4 and pro have a mode that switched off half of the doubled CUs in the pro, and when Cerny himself says that they are doing bc by making the new hardware clock down to the old hardware, it's obvious they can only do hardware emulation for bc. He said as much in that article I linked.
So if you want to say that he chose what he did because he truly felt that they wanted to be outclassed heavily on RT, have lower APU yields because of crazy clocks, and say bc had nothing to do with it, that's your
Read the link I posted earlier. They're doing bc by clicking down the cus, plus the ram bandwidth, etc so it will run in PS4 or pro mode. Well, if Cerny is to be believed.
Yep. I still have no issues with 30fps as long as it's designed that way and stable. It's why I didn't cry about the great looking PS5 games shown.
I could see some kinda high frame-rate mode for MP, but there would be a lot of sacrifice to visuals. The 120 fps thing is really not going to be that prevalent, imo, because very, very few people have TVs that support it from what I understand. It doesn't make much sense to put in that level of effort for such and underutilized feature. I just want stable, consistent frame-rates. could be 30 or 60. I don't think I care to degrade the visuals just for 120 fps on a controller. I still game for immersion...
You say that as if they were looking over their shoulder at Microsoft’s Xbox specs and decided to get some similar specs. They aren't headed in Microsoft's direction when it comes to performance is what you fail to understand. They have their own agenda. Sure, BC is something they wanted, but unlike Microsoft, that wasn't the focal point; it was performance and cost, obviously. I find it odd that you conveniently praise Microsoft as a software company but somehow perform a 180 when it comes to Sony as hardware company.
I think you are taking that thought process a bit too far, there is no reason to believe that them doing something to make sure a same gen refresh console would work without any issues means they HAD to do the same thing with totally new hardware that was built with BC in mind.
Really? Seems to hve been the same since Terminator all the way through untill like End of days or Jingle all the way.
Hmm. Someone might want to tell me that I don't say what I say.
From 2017:
From 2018:
From *this* thread:
See, I have opinions. I think Sony's implementation of BC is holding them back. I think they make great hardware. I think that people who make great hardware can make poor decisions sometimes, or people who make great games can make poor games sometimes. I'll call out MS when I think they make bad decisions too. And yet you, who literally can not say a bad thing about Sony, want to throw a hypocrisy charge my direction?
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So you're saying it's a greater challenge architecturally to make a same-gen console compatible compared to a next gen "built with BC in mind"? Try harder. You're better than that.
No doubt. This whole coveting other men's bodies is pretty foreign to me.
I admire the sculpting of the body that fascinates me, I do think women should have a muscular physique too, atm it's "womens figure" physiques today is the sweetspot imo.
Arnold went downhill right after "End of Days", by "Collateral Damage" he basically only had his biceps left. He did momentarily get into decent shape for his age in T3, but only for the nude scene, the rest of the movie he was chunkier.
Even in pumping iron he was down from his 73 and 74 form (although perhaps better conditioned).
Yes, I adored Arnold in my youth when bodybuilding was my passion.
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