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They’re still saying 2x the GPU and 4x the cpu. So maybe JinCa/Val have a point.
Unless Microsoft are being quite literal.
 
They’re still saying 2x the GPU and 4x the cpu. So maybe JinCa/Val have a point.
Unless Microsoft are being quite literal.
Maybe with all the wide spread confusion they will actually make it 12?

Crazy thing is afaik...
They are saying 2x the X GPU but...
The 4x the CPU is talking about the regular xbo.
 
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tvis system is almost a designers dream, ya don’t have to worry about much interference when and how to design for it.... Imagine if there were some kind of removal plate on its face(s)?
You mean like 360 faceplate?

It was cool but never took off.
 


Anything is possible but 12 to 16 is doubtful, I know he said not all large so that would mean it's probably packed full of indie games if true but again what are you going to offer in the next year? We already know they are porting Halo from x1 up to XSX and I'm sure a Forza title will be there but how many other first party studios have had the time to put together a next gen game? Several of them have just released games and most of them were small studios that may not even have a full staff yet.

It doesn't make sense to push everything out at launch from a business perspective either, you end up cannibalizing sales, I know GP is a thing now but you need to spread releases out you don't just dump everything at once when you have the smallest possible userbase. I'm sure they'll both have the standard 1 or 2 AAA launch games followed up by something big in the spring along with a bunch of cross gen games for a while. If they dumped 12-16 games at once (I don't think they have the bandwidth for that) it'd be years before anything new came out, it makes no sense.
 
Anything is possible but 12 to 16 is doubtful, I know he said not all large so that would mean it's probably packed full of indie games if true but again what are you going to offer in the next year? We already know they are porting Halo from x1 up to XSX and I'm sure a Forza title will be there but how many other first party studios have had the time to put together a next gen game? Several of them have just released games and most of them were small studios that may not even have a full staff yet.

It doesn't make sense to push everything out at launch from a business perspective either, you end up cannibalizing sales, I know GP is a thing now but you need to spread releases out you don't just dump everything at once when you have the smallest possible userbase. I'm sure they'll both have the standard 1 or 2 AAA launch games followed up by something big in the spring along with a bunch of cross gen games for a while. If they dumped 12-16 games at once (I don't think they have the bandwidth for that) it'd be years before anything new came out, it makes no sense.
I'm sorry, Jinca. Could you respond to this as if Sony were entering next gen with 12 first party titles? I couldn't hear you before mate. Lol

Kidding bruv. Kidding...

Although, being that Microsoft are pushing Gamepass like the cure for cancer these days, I can see them releasing a slew of first party Series X titles at the onset as it's Gamepass that's the real agenda. If GP weren't a thing, I'd agree with you. But it changes strategies immensely at this point. They could, and just might go for it.
 
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Anything is possible but 12 to 16 is doubtful, I know he said not all large so that would mean it's probably packed full of indie games if true but again what are you going to offer in the next year? We already know they are porting Halo from x1 up to XSX and I'm sure a Forza title will be there but how many other first party studios have had the time to put together a next gen game? Several of them have just released games and most of them were small studios that may not even have a full staff yet.

It doesn't make sense to push everything out at launch from a business perspective either, you end up cannibalizing sales, I know GP is a thing now but you need to spread releases out you don't just dump everything at once when you have the smallest possible userbase. I'm sure they'll both have the standard 1 or 2 AAA launch games followed up by something big in the spring along with a bunch of cross gen games for a while. If they dumped 12-16 games at once (I don't think they have the bandwidth for that) it'd be years before anything new came out, it makes no sense.
Yeah it would have to be indie games with 1 or 2 AAA games.
 
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I'm sorry, Jinca. Could you respond to this as if Sony were entering next gen with 12 first party titles? I couldn't hear you before mate. Lol

Kidding bruv. Kidding...

Although, being that Microsoft are pushing Gamepass like the cure for cancer these days, I can see them releasing a slew of first party Series X titles at the onset as it's Gamepass that's the real agenda. If GP weren't a thing, I'd agree with you. But it changes strategies immensely at this point. They could, and just might go for it.

I'd say the same thing if it were Sony, actually I'd be mad because that would mean almost all of the stuff they'd have available in the next 2-4 years is coming out at launch, WTF am I going to play after I finish that? lol

I don't think piling everything into GP at once makes sense either because it doesn't give people enough reason to keep a subscription going. Earlier this year Matt Booty (that poor guy) said they were aiming to have a new first party game every 3 months, that hardly sounds like a company trying to dump 16 games out at launch so unless it's like 14 indie games and two AAA games it just doesn't add up. Sadly when a new gen comes around everyone is desperate for clicks and they spout off a bunch of unrealistic things just to get people to pay attention to them, this may be one of those times.

Booty responded that Xbox Game Pass is "the main driver" for a release schedule as Microsoft wants to ensure there is a "steady stream of games" coming into the subscription service for both PC and console.

For Booty and Microsoft, "every three months feels about right."

"I think about like how long you spend with a game and just sort of the cadence of discovery there," Booty explained. "So if you can do a game every three months, and if a game takes somewhere between two years and four years, I mean, just think about things that have come out recently, you know, things like Red Dead and God of War need to be getting into five, six years. Right? But let's just say for the sorts of studios, like a Ninja theory or a double fine that two, three years starts to be the cadence, right?

"So, then if you've got a game a quarter and you're taking two to three years." Booty continued. "You can kind of back into the math and say, well wow, you probably need somewhere between 10 and 12 studios. But... making games is not yet a perfect science, right? There's no creative endeavor that is. So there's going to be things that take longer. There's going to be some things that we start and say, hey, great idea, but it just isn't, you know, the Jello doesn't want to set. Right. Um, and so I think we need some, some buffer in there, right? So the first, that's kind of my basic answers. We'd love to be feeding a high quality game into game pass about every three months."

 
We already know they are porting Halo from x1 up to XSX

That's an interesting interpretation, given that Halo Infinite was revealed at the same E3 that MS mentioned they were working on next gen condoles and was announced as a launch game for next gen this E3. I'd ask what source you'd have to support the idea that it's being posted from X1 to next gen, but I'm not sure it's worth my time
 
That's an interesting interpretation, given that Halo Infinite was revealed at the same E3 that MS mentioned they were working on next gen condoles and was announced as a launch game for next gen this E3. I'd ask what source you'd have to support the idea that it's being posted from X1 to next gen, but I'm not sure it's worth my time

You believe that they started working on it at the same time they announced the console? that game has reportedly been in the planning stages since 2015. It's going to have more people playing it on the X1 than XSX, it's just common sense. The scale etc will have to be compatible with X1, they aren't making two separate games, if you want to believe it's being ported down from a console that isn't even complete go ahead but that's not how it has ever worked before Please don't bring up the tired PC comparison either it doesn't apply, consoles still require specialized development, it's not just making sure it's compatible with a bunch of pieces of hardware and then letting the user pick the settings.
 
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You believe that they started working on it at the same time they announced the console? that game has reportedly been in the planning stages since 2015. It's going to have more people playing it on the X1 than XSX, it's just common sense. The scale etc will have to be compatible with X1, they aren't making two separate games, if you want to believe it's being ported down from a console that isn't even complete go ahead but that's not how it has ever worked before Please don't bring up the tired PC comparison either it doesn't apply, consoles still require specialized development, it's not just making sure it's compatible with a bunch of pieces of hardware and then letting the user pick the settings.
Microsoft ports down, not up. Sony ports up not down. You keeping burying yourself in BS.
 
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