SJW stupidity. Let's just have one Social Justice Warrior, and anti-vaxxers, stupidity thread since they're all stupid.

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We can't be afraid to say something that's true because some right wingers will co-opt it either though, sadly if you even hint that people should learn English you get called racist by many and that basically shuts any real convo down at the start. It just makes sense to know the main language of the country you are living in, there really is no logical reason not to. I'm not saying you said that either don't get me wrong. In the case of England and other parts of Europe as has been pointed out it's not just the language it's some other things that come with it like refusal to try to assimilate in any real way etc, it's kind of a package deal.
Having a discussion on immigration policies (which I can't actually speak to in the UK) is fine. The topic itself isn't off limits. What you'll find is that immigration really isn't a very contentious issue and there's usually a ton of easy compromises.

You're right, the topic isn't off limits because the alt-right poisons it, but when they say "Nobody speaks English anymore!" that's something entirely different. That's not looking to discuss anything, but to drive a wedge. Immigration isn't a wedge issue. One side very much wants to make it into one though and that's entirely the problem.

Any society should have controls on immigration - that's just simple common sense. If those controls are failing, by all means lets address it.

Back on topic, the SJW and the alt right are really two sides of the same coin. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum (although many myself included see that as a circle). They see perceived injustices in the world and they rage at them irrationally. They both want the world to "look" a very specific way and when they can't have what they want (because it is impossible), they rage.
 
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Im my experience, I've never heard anyone say that. Everyone I know, all sides of the isle, feel everyone should learn English here in the States.
It has been brought up by politicians in the past and they were always called racist until Obama said it then people kind of conveniently ignored it. I don't know how old you are or how long you've been paying attention to politics, I've always kind of been a political junkie in a way so I've been paying attention to this stuff since before I was 18 and I'm 46 now so I remember a lot of this kind of thing but it happened more in the past because we went from Bush who pandered to the Latino vote to Obama to an obvious racist in Trump.
 

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Not at all sure what the major problems are with migration in amerika, but in Europe (and Sweden in case) the biggest problem with our migration the last decade (except crime rate) is the fact that entire population areas are non swedish speaking and basically have their own rules (often islamic focused). This is facts, not racism or xenophobia, just facts.
I don't know Sweden's situation and haven't looked into it. I do know in the past the claims of these "Sharia compounds" or "no-go zones" was demonstrated to be false (see : https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sharia-law-muslim-no-go-zones/ ) and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if what you're reporting as fact is based on extremely strained interpretations. I don't doubt that there are areas with heavy concentrations of non-native speakers, of course, but the whole idea of their own areas with special rules or laws is highly suspect as a general rule.
 

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I don't know Sweden's situation and haven't looked into it. I do know in the past the claims of these "Sharia compounds" or "no-go zones" was demonstrated to be false (see : https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sharia-law-muslim-no-go-zones/ ) and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if what you're reporting as fact is based on extremely strained interpretations. I don't doubt that there are areas with heavy concentrations of non-native speakers, of course, but the whole idea of their own areas with special rules or laws is highly suspect as a general rule.
It's facts here, even one of our state owned (socialist leaned) TV channels had documentaries on it a few years back. It's terrible, with people going around openly and preach about going to terrorist camps.
 

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Hi Guys,

First post here at Union VGF I was around during the TXB days can't remember the tag I had though.



Very good post and in part I think this was a main driving force of the brexit vote. The UK has seen so much immigration from all over the world, but in the last 15-20 years we have had massive waves of immigration due to FoM from Europe and in part I think we have lost our culture identity.


I think this video really hit the nail on the head and I'm totally in agreement with Sargon on this, it's not racist to say we have had enough migration and want it to stop but the hardcore remainers have framed all leave voters as racist since the referendum.

BTW I don't know the political leanings of VGF or their views of Sargon, so I hope you aren't too hash on me lol
Welcome my new forum friend!
 
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People like this are partly to blame for Trump being President.
 

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Thanks anti-vaxxers

I wish Disneyland would require visitors to have proof of vaccination before entering, that would eliminate half of the problem lol (I know they can't) It seems like every time the issue pops up here in So Cal it was someone visiting Disneyland, we just had that last week with some girl from New Zealand had the measles and ended up going Disneyland and a few other theme parks and landmarks. It's so freaking selfish.
 
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When you have only a small group of people qualifying in a technical field, you don't have a gender or a race problem, but an education problem.

We should invest a ton more in education and career training. Instead of pushing kids into programs they aren't ready for, get them ready for it at an earlier age.
 

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