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Doesn’t kraken compress the data whilst in transfer?

Not just that.

Kraken VS ZLIB:

According to the official graph by RAD Game Tools, Kraken has 29% higher compression ratio over ZLIB (used in PS4 and other platforms), and does it 3-5x faster (doesn't really concern us as gamers, only good for devs). Both Kraken and ZLIB are lossless compressions, meaning data is kept as it is, like textures, audio, game files, etc. Also another advantage is being 297% (~4x times) faster in decompression, which is very critical for data streaming at least.

Oodle Texture:

Textures in games take a big chunk of the total size. To amplify compression even further, Oodle Texture go 5-15% "near" lossless compression:

Lossless Transform for BC7: Oodle Texture also includes a lossless transform for BC7 blocks called "BC7Prep" that makes them more compressible. BC7Prep takes BC7 blocks that are often very difficult to compress and rearranges their bits, yielding 5-15% smaller files after subsequent compression. BC7Prep does require runtime reversal of the transform, which can be done on the GPU. BC7Prep can be used on existing BC7 encoded blocks, or for additional savings can be used with Oodle Texture RDO in near lossless mode. This allows significant size reduction on textures where maximum quality is necessary.

In short, the PS5 "should" benefit from this headroom advantage to use higher quality assets than other platforms, or be more efficient with its storage for the same assets quality but smaller game sizes. All this while still being able to eliminate LOD's and use that extra space to have a bump on assets quality for the same smaller game size overall.

This is the quote. "Not all games at launch of PS5 will be using Oodle Texture as it's a very new technology, but we expect it to be in the majority of PS5 games in the future. Because of this we expect the average compression ratio and therefore the effective IO speed to be even better than previously estimated."


They also say this in the comments when asked about a comparison to BCPack.

"I don't think there's any public comparison of Kraken and BCPack. If there was one an unofficial one around, beware it might not include the affects of Oodle Texture. Oodle Texture dramatically changes the way textures compress; we believe it should always be used with textures in games. We're big fans of the Xbox Series X. Their approach is slightly different, but we're glad to see they are taking compression seriously. Oodle Texture works great for the Xbox as well, and we are working with a lot of game companies that are using it on Xbox, so consumers should see lots of games with those huge size and speed savings on Xbox as well. It's up to the individual game developers, as it's not been licensed platform-wide at this time. Game developers are also using Oodle Texture and Oodle Kraken for PC games; most multi-platform devs will be using the same Oodle Texture encoding of their textures for all platforms, it's not platform-specific. On the PC you don't have hardware Kraken, so software Kraken is used on the CPU. To keep up with the fastest SSD speeds this requires several cores; luckily high end PC's also have lots of CPU cores! At RAD we've always just tried to make the best compression possible for games. We plan to continue to work with all platforms in the future."
 
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Been going hard on Ghost of Tsushima so shouldn't be as much of a delay to playing this as I thought. Just over two weeks in GoT and already have 55 hours lol.
 
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Hmm, according to this website, PS4 is at 39.5 GB.


PC is at 45 GB on steam 🤔

Just finished pre-loading. Steam is 37.2 GB. Again something is wonky with the PS4 file size. My money is on something Evil Boris said on Resetera, a bunch of PS4 cutscenes are pre-rendered in multiple on-disc languages.
 
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GameStop said I could pick it up at 9pm tonight. They're only open until 9 normally so a "midnight" release for this game maybe? Either way not worth the hassle for me.
 
GameStop said I could pick it up at 9pm tonight. They're only open until 9 normally so a "midnight" release for this game maybe? Either way not worth the hassle for me.

What! My EBGames (Gamestop now) said pick up tomorrow, they open at 10 AM :(
 
Just played the first 20 minutes on Steam. Controller is fine. Seems to be an issue if you're in a Steam Beta client.

Bigger issue is there seems to be a resolution bug in Full-screen mode. Can be bypassed using windowed mode but come on Bandai this is PC Port 101 stuff here.
 
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Played the 1st hour now. Its pretty good. Waiting to see how the rest of the game shakes out. Art style carries itself well. Feels like this could be a longer game than I anticipated.
 
Looks like PC gamers have interest in this. I didn't have time to start the game yesterday. Might start it today after work.

 
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Played just a bit over 2 hours now and noticed some pop ins especially more open areas and also when I was running up the stairs in a small town, not sure if it was stutter or fps drop which was also noticeable.

Other than that, it's smooth gameplay during battles and response time is fast, really enjoying it so far!
 
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About 8.5 hours in, loving it so far. Battle system is great and even if there's a lot going on, it is manageable doing combos and subsequent boost attacks. I like how we can change their outfits and it will show up in cutscenes and skits.
 
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Started this last night. Only a couple hours in but really enjoying it so far. Never played a Tales game so nothing to compare it to.
 
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Took me about 36 hours to beat main story. I just sold it today 😃
Honestly was thinking it was going to be longer than that, so hearing it's only 36 for the main story is a good thing. I do enjoy a nice long 100 hour game but not right now as I'm trying to get through my backlog.
 
Honestly was thinking it was going to be longer than that, so hearing it's only 36 for the main story is a good thing. I do enjoy a nice long 100 hour game but not right now as I'm trying to get through my backlog.


If you do sidequests its a bit longer than that. Im 44 hours in and not finished.
 
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You must have done a lot of side quests 😅

Quite a few yes, I'm still doing some now. I was getting everything from dungeons so like the last dungeon i had to leave and go back in like 4 times for supplies. You're a mad man for finishing in 36.
 
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