The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!
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He is a rambling moron who thinks he's back at a WWE event and tries to get a pop from the crowd. The different now, his crowd are racists, dangerous, republican terrorists. Someone is going to die because of his gas lighting. The world would be a much better place if his mother had an abortion.
That is the side neither she or any other Democrat were ever going to get anyway because those people will always vote Republican. Nearly any other candidate would have beaten Trump but our side thought it was more important to say "I'm with her" and put up a highly unpopular (with independents) candidate just because of who she was. She is a Clinton, the media and the party leaders all wanted her to be the nominee and nobody else had a fair shot. Even now people on her side try to blame "Bernie bros" etc as if it was them that lost the election, like a vote was owed to her vs her having to convince people she was the right person for the job. Candidates need to keep in mind you aren't just trying to beat your opponent you are also trying to get people who aren't that invested in politics off of their butts and to the polls to begin with.
I get what you are saying and I agree with most of it but if someone comes here illegally we can't just let them in on the honor system and hope they show up for their court dates etc. This country can't even agree on if and how it can take care of the people already here, we can't just let anyone in because they ask nicely. As far as asylum seekers that's another story but if they are overwhelming the system there isn't much more you can do then make them wait until they can have their hearing, of course they also need to get as many people down there to help process this as quickly as possible but if you only have the capacity to handle X amount of people and X shows up with another 50,000 that's going to clog up the system.
Agree, but at least he said something and isn't down to the balls like most every other republican.
Trump needs to die already. Telling these ladies to go back should tell everyone that this old f*cker is out of touch.
Agreed. The Republicans in office who criticize Trump are throwing softballs at him. They're bad women but Trump needs to delete the tweet. So bold.
People will clutching their pearls over hearing Ilhan Omar say grab em by the p**** and s***hole on live TV
Same here but a huge portion of the Republican party doesn't care about that, it's not about winning your base it's about winning over people who aren't staunchly liberal or conservative as well as people who just gave up on the system to get out and vote. If he's a racist that also agrees with you on 90% of your political views are you going to vote for him or someone who is also sketchy and unpopular that you don't agree with at all?
They need to get off the anti-Semitic stuff, she was talking about a wealthy lobbying group not about Jews as a whole and it was shameful that people jumped right to the anti-Semitic defense. Being critical of Israel, their government and the moves they are making has nothing to do with saying you hate Jews, sadly they are just using some of the identity politics crap some people on our side use.
Hillary lost because of the following...
People didn’t vote. She lost by 80,000 total in the states she needed to win.
Media slurped up trump and gave him a billion dollars in free advertising.
soviet fueled propaganda machine that worked to perfection to influence the easily influenced with fallacies that republicans repeated until the very end.
She didn’t campaign in areas she thought she had completely locked.
Comey making a statement he was reopening the buttery males investigation 10 days before election.
Had nothing to do with her being a poor candidate. She want perfect, but she wasn’t awful. She wasn’t awful enough to not beat a compete moron.
People didn’t vote. She lost by 80,000 total in the states she needed to win.
Media slurped up trump and gave him a billion dollars in free advertising.
soviet fueled propaganda machine that worked to perfection to influence the easily influenced with fallacies that republicans repeated until the very end.
She didn’t campaign in areas she thought she had completely locked.
Comey making a statement he was reopening the buttery males investigation 10 days before election.
Had nothing to do with her being a poor candidate. She want perfect, but she wasn’t awful. She wasn’t awful enough to not beat a compete moron.
That's the point right there. Republicans might not care but people that stayed home? Or voted third party in swing states? They should care. Even if they aren't thrilled with the candidate. Which is going to happen. No matter who wins the nomination a lot of people won't be thrilled.
If you have any kind of morality
Comey couldn't have been a factor had she not tried to be sketchy with the private server/emails to begin with, again she's the one that brought that on herself and people like to gloss over it. She was an awful candidate, she couldn't draw large crowds on her own, she didn't campaign in critical states even though people on the ground told her she needed to come and she has no personality, Obama and her husband have a ton of Charisma, they were good at campaigning and she wasn't, it may be a superficial quality but it is one that's needed when running for POTUS and she lacked it.
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That's easy for us to say because he's not on our side, if it was our nominee and we wanted things like climate change addressed, income inequality, healthcare etc we'd probably be a little more forgiving of personal shortcomings and vote for him otherwise the person on the other side would win for sure and they would implement a ton of things we don't want at all. The bottom line is he was their nominee so he was the only one they were going to vote for, he was one of the two least popular Presidential nominees in history, lucky for him he went up against the other candidate in the top 2, his people knew he needed to campaign to win the electoral college and not the popular vote, he is a sick bastard but even with all of the things that are wrong with him and the people he surrounds himself with they ran a winning campaign and Hillary's team didn't.
It as glossed over because it was insignificant. It was only made significant because of constant media attention.
As awful of a candidate as people claim she was, she wasn’t, if people didn’t feel she had it in the bad we wouldn’t be where we are now.
A competent candidate would have campaigned in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania, a competent candidate wouldn't have gone on tv and cheerfully talked about putting miners out of work, a competent candidate wouldn't have played not to lose instead of trying to win, hell her VP choice was even boring.
As far as the email thing that was a big deal because she kept making excuses and trying to cover it up instead of just saying she screwed up, it took until one of the debates with Trump for her to say it was wrong and she wasn't going to make excuses, that came months after her making a ton of excuses and trying to drag other people into it with her. People like her almost always end up making the cover up worse than the crime, constantly lying instead of just admitting guilt to something that seems fairly minor, that's how you make a story go away quickly, just admit you messed up.
Well people that care about those issues can barely show up to vote as it is now so I'm not so sure about that
The thing is, the majority of them (and an overwhelming majority of asylum seekers) do show up at court.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...ty-undocumented-immigrants-show-court-data-s/
The whole "they don't show up" or "we can't take care of the people we have here" are just things people tell themselves to not have to justify to themselves that they're fine with locking up people indefinitely for being born on the wrong side of the border and trying to come here. If people commit actual crimes, or if they don't show up to whatever court sessions they're ordered to, deport them by all means, but the current system has led to actual American citizens being detained indefinitely without due process - and what the f*** is the point of this country if due process is no longer even guaranteed?
Imagine how shady you'd have to be to report that you've "lost" 22 MILLION emails that were run through private servers when you're a minor functionary like... oh, President of the USA. (Admittedly, that was W's time, and lost was "missing" in that they weren't preserved according to the Presidential Records Act, and maybe weren't actually unrecoverable).[/QUOTE]
I'm not fine with locking people up indefinitely but I also know that too many people coming in at once clogs the system and we can't just let people constantly flood into the country. Yes we need people who will take the jobs Americans won't take and I'm all for letting people come in to make their lives better but we have to have some limitations, we can't just take everyone.
As far as actual citizens being detained that's insane and it shouldn't be happening, I know it's only a couple of people but one is too many. That's why we need our political leaders to actually tackle immigration and asylum laws and not just keep pushing it to the next election to be able to use it as something to campaign on which is something both sides seem more than willing to continue to do and have done for decades.
Well, yeah, the system has to be clogged - I mean, why else would they go to this extreme? I mean, it's not like there's any evidence to the contra...
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