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[Kerosene31]

Remember back in 2016 when we said that these dog whistles would turn into full on racism and people said we were "unhinged" and "overreacting"?

Do you remember when we said we would not say "We told you so"? Nope, me neither. We. Told. You. So.

 

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Such courage

 

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[JinCA]

Well that just goes back to having a problem with a planned attack and that's silly unless you have problem with everyone that does it.

Obviously if you are going to attack you have to have a plan for how you will deal with the aftermath or capitalize on it

I do have a problem with it when everyone does it, it's BS regardless of who's doing it. That being said she made it seem personal to her yet she has the same position he had, she leaves out that most African American's were against federally forced busing at the time as well. She's framing this whole thing in an unrealistic light and trying to paint Biden as a racist and that's really cheap, the t-shirts just make it seem slimier to me.

 

[yankeessuck]

 

[JinCA]

 

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[yankeessuck]

More need to say it

 

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Much as I dislike our president, he is right about one thing.

Everything is rigged. Not one video on Andrew Yang on the CNN youtube video tab.

Clearly they dont want him because he is not the drama queen like the others.

 

[JinCA]

Tulsi was on MSNBC yesterday and was questioned about her meeting assad. She got offended and said not su subtly tried to hint it was so long ago... it was three years ago, and then she accused MSNBC of favoring Harris, and using Harris' talking points. At the same time, she's become the darling of fox news the past week and has appeared on there numerous times.

Just saw her the other day saying she doesn't dispute all of the things that were said about Assad, she doesn't seem to want to engage in the war mongering talk because all that does is fuel the fires. I get why others think it's shady, to me just constantly talking about those people that way just gins up support for military action so I'd rather just avoid it if we aren't going to do anything about it.

 

[JinCA]

Well that just goes back to having a problem with a planned attack and that's silly unless you have problem with everyone that does it.

Obviously if you are going to attack you have to have a plan for how you will deal with the aftermath or capitalize on it

It depends on what the attack is, when you are trying to paint the front runner and likely nominee as a racist because he held views that most African Americans did at the time all while actually currently having the same view he did it's just really insincere and cheap, it's a dick move and something a total opportunist would do and that's what she comes across as to me. I'd still vote for her over Trump but I really don't want her to be our nominee.

 

[yankeessuck]

It depends on what the attack is, when you are trying to paint the front runner and likely nominee as a racist because he held views that most African Americans did at the time all while actually currently having the same view he did it's just really insincere and cheap, it's a dick move and something a total opportunist would do and that's what she comes across as to me. I'd still vote for her over Trump but I really don't want her to be our nominee.

I agree its her being an opportunist but so is attacking Harris. Double so if you are doing it because you are hoping to get a job from Biden.

None of these attacks are sincere because if they were you wouldn't wait to run for President to say anything. Biden even had a good line about that.

 

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This was there before they removed his video from CNN TY channel.

 

[yankeessuck]

This was there before they removed his video from CNN TY channel.View attachment 2367

But none of those videos are from the CNN yt channel

Also Yang saying he is 4th in polling at the beginning of his statement

 

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But none of those videos are from the CNN yt channel

Also Yang saying he is 4th in polling at the beginning of his statement

Did you look at the CNN channel?

 

[yankeessuck]

Did you look at the CNN channel?

The picture you posted is from a different channel.

 

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The picture you posted is from a different channel.

I get that but did you looked at the CNN TY Channel?

 

[yankeessuck]

I get that but did you looked at the CNN TY Channel?

Yeah they don't have his post debate interview on there. You won't get any argument from me on whether CNN sucks.

 

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[JinCA]

But none of those videos are from the CNN yt channel

Also Yang saying he is 4th in polling at the beginning of his statement

He said 4th of those on the stage that night not 4th overall.

 

[JinCA]

I agree its her being an opportunist but so is attacking Harris. Double so if you are doing it because you are hoping to get a job from Biden.

None of these attacks are sincere because if they were you wouldn't wait to run for President to say anything. Biden even had a good line about that.

Harris made her attack against Biden sound like it was personal to her, she made Biden out to be a racist even though most African American's held the same view he did at the time and the same view Harris holds now. Gabbards attack on Harris was based on her recent record as CA AG, she wasn't going back 30 plus years and trying to play the race card. Harris just comes across like any other "say anything to win" politician. Also people keep asking "why attack Harris and not Biden?" why go after the same guy everyone else is? you aren't going to get noticed if you are gunning for the same guy everyone else is, Harris record as AG is not spotless and she is fair game, she says she's a "top tier candidate" so that also makes her a target.

 

[Spiritech]

reminds me, MoscowMitch fell and broke his shoulder today.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/politics/mitch-mcconnell-shoulder-fracture-kentucky-home/index.html

 

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reminds me, MoscowMitch fell and broke his shoulder today.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/politics/mitch-mcconnell-shoulder-fracture-kentucky-home/index.html

Convenient...

 

[Spiritech]

Convenient...

at least Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown have called on MoscowMitch to end the recess. I was also thinking the timing of the fall was convenient. Wonder how long before anyone sees him.

 

[yankeessuck]

Harris made her attack against Biden sound like it was personal to her, she made Biden out to be a racist even though most African American's held the same view he did at the time and the same view Harris holds now. Gabbards attack on Harris was based on her recent record as CA AG, she wasn't going back 30 plus years and trying to play the race card. Harris just comes across like any other "say anything to win" politician. Also people keep asking "why attack Harris and not Biden?" why go after the same guy everyone else is? you aren't going to get noticed if you are gunning for the same guy everyone else is, Harris record as AG is not spotless and she is fair game, she says she's a "top tier candidate" so that also makes her a target.

They are both opportunistic attacks. Its not like saying Harris doesn't have the temperament to win President is based on anything of substance. Its just a smear.

She went out of her way to defend Biden while attacking the person who attacked him. Pretty much the best thing that could happen for Biden.. Which is fine but if you are a candidate who can't win and you are attacking people there has to be some reason for it. Only thing I can think of is she is angling for a job. Just more reason why we need the field to shrink. If Biden is going to win let him do it on his own.

 

[JinCA]

They are both opportunistic attacks. Its not like saying Harris doesn't have the temperament to win President is based on anything of substance. Its just a smear.

She went out of her way to defend Biden while attacking the person who attacked him. Pretty much the best thing that could happen for Biden.. Which is fine but if you are a candidate who can't win and you are attacking people there has to be some reason for it. Only thing I can think of is she is angling for a job. Just more reason why we need the field to shrink. If Biden is going to win let him do it on his own.

The attack on Harris was warranted, Harris couldn't even defend against the factual "attack" Gabbard laid at her feet and if she wants to be the nominee she should know that kind of thing is coming. I think it does show her character when CNN asked her about the attack later not only could she not refute the things Gabbard said so she ended up using that old cheap Asaad attack.

On a different note I think one thing that makes Yang standout is that he didn't attack anyone, he tried to focus on issues and how to solve them vs why someone else sucks and I think he should get more recognition for that.

 

[yankeessuck]

The attack on Harris was warranted, Harris couldn't even defend against the factual "attack" Gabbard laid at her feet and if she wants to be the nominee she should know that kind of thing is coming. I think it does show her character when CNN asked her about the attack later not only could she not refute the things Gabbard said so she ended up using that old cheap Asaad attack.

On a different note I think one thing that makes Yang standout is that he didn't attack anyone, he tried to focus on issues and how to solve them vs why someone else sucks and I think he should get more recognition for that.

Well as I said before I am glad it happened because its something she needs to address but lets not pretend the attack is Tulsi doing the public a service.

And its funny you mention the Asaad thing because its a similar thing to what you are talking about with Harris and her record. You are running for President and you know these are things that will come up and not just once.

But again that just brings me back to the confusion over what she is even doing in this race. If she would have gained traction and had a real chance how would she ever have got past Asaad or the past homophobia or anything like that?

Yang is doing the right thing and the thing I wish a lot of these candidates were going. He knows he isn't winning so he will talk about his issues for as long as he can while doing no real harm in the process.

 

[JinCA]

Well as I said before I am glad it happened because its something she needs to address but lets not pretend the attack is Tulsi doing the public a service.

And its funny you mention the Asaad thing because its a similar thing to what you are talking about with Harris and her record. You are running for President and you know these are things that will come up and not just once.

But again that just brings me back to the confusion over what she is even doing in this race. If she would have gained traction and had a real chance how would she ever have got past Asaad or the past homophobia or anything like that?

Yang is doing the right thing and the thing I wish a lot of these candidates were going. He knows he isn't winning so he will talk about his issues for as long as he can while doing no real harm in the process.

She's been getting hammered for the Asaad thing for years, the homophobia thing is easily squashed because her voting record shows that's not what she believes anymore, I know it doesn't bother me at all. Nobody said Gabbard did it as a public service but it was warranted and it's all true, it's not something most people know about.

The difference between the Asaad thing coming up against Gabbard and Harris record coming up against her is Gabbard has been getting hit with this stuff since before she ran, Harris hasn't had any of this brought up to her face in any real way until now. Harris was the establishment candidate of choice until Biden got in. They were talking about her last year, they love the fact that she can use the race card and the gender card as half assed defenses against anyone who attacks her for anything. I have no doubt that had it been Biden who said what Gabbard said about Harris she and her campaign would have used the "woman of color" defense like crazy. She'd be better than Trump but she's not a very likeable person, her campaign has no real message and she just doesn't offer anything unique other than her gender/ethnicity.

 

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