The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!

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At least they now publicly admit it was a quid pro quo. Start going for their throats.

Now the debate is how many quid per quo. Kind of like Churchill asking the woman if she'd sleep with him for a million pounds, and then if she would for five pounds. Except in this case, it's the nation getting f***ed.
 
 
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Booty winning Iowa would really throw the whole primary for a loop

But Bullock at 4%? I'm going to go with no.
 
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Booty winning Iowa would really throw the whole primary for a loop

But Bullock at 4%? I'm going to go with no.

Harris says she's going to be a top 3 candidate there, that really doesn't seem realistic unless she changes a lot between now and their caucus, there are several people ahead of her and she doesn't seem to be doing herself any favors with the way she presents herself in the debates. The RCP average has her at 4.3, Yang at 2.3 and Bullock at 1.7 in Iowa, this Emerson poll is the newest one in their average.
 
Harris says she's going to be a top 3 candidate there, that really doesn't seem realistic unless she changes a lot between now and their caucus, there are several people ahead of her and she doesn't seem to be doing herself any favors with the way she presents herself in the debates. The RCP average has her at 4.3, Yang at 2.3 and Bullock at 1.7 in Iowa, this Emerson poll is the newest one in their average.

She is going to have to think about getting out and saving herself for a future run
 
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Still, f*** Mattis. People are going to give him credit and act like he stood up to Trump for a couple of jokes. This clown had a chance to speak out, but he decided to stay silent.
He's refusing to speak out. Maybe, just maybe, yesterday was the poke to get him to speak out? While late, and he's still a coward, better late than never?
 
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Francis Rooney (R) just gave a good interview on CNN. He was direct, didn't pussyfoot around too much, if at all, but he agrees the Ukraine nonsense is just that. He questioned how all of the sudden Ukraine hacked the 2016 election. Then he said it's Russia, always has been, and that's what our intelligence agencies have said.
 
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Is it bad I can't even think of who Bullock is? Anyways I'm still team Warren (would have liked her to run last time honestly) but Mayor Pete has been high on my list as well. Listening to Pod Save America it sounds like his messaging has changed a bit which probably isn't good, but I like him for my more moderate choice and being a millennial.
 
She's called so many things. It's almost as if she was informed, a critical thinker, and knows history. Butterymales.

ITS JUST MORE ESTABLISHMENT SMEARS

People that voted for Jill Stein are going to say she is being bitter and will probably say something about her not campaigning in Wisconsin or something but Hillary is 100% right here. People that voted for Jill Stein f***ed up and to me in some ways worse than those that voted for Trump. Just got to pray they don't do it again with Tulsi.
 
I voted for Jill Stein 😁

I thought both Hillary and Trump were awful candidates. Most people who are disgusted with both parties are the people who just stay home. Maybe I should've just stayed home since there is no vote option for None Of The Above.

I also had concerns Hillary was a major Warhawk.
 
I've mentioned multiple times that I voted for Gary Johnson. Granted, I'm in New York and I figured it was safe to not for against Trump (and Hillary won my state easily without me).

I always say the same thing - Hillary failed to convince me to vote for her. I voted Obama twice, so it wasn't like I was a hard sell. I didn't give two f**** about her e-mails. I followed the facts and it wasn't a big deal. Hillary still did nothing to campaign. I remember turning on CNN hoping to see something from her, but it was all Trump 24/7. I remember getting on her e-mail list, because I wanted to find out more straight from her campaign. All I ever got was "Trump was awful". I didn't need to be convinced of that, I knew that.

Maybe some of that was just because that's now NY State is (nobody campaigns in it because it is a lock), but I couldn't even find out more when I went out looking. Best I can tell she barely campaigned those last two months. (I remember her getting pneumonia around then too which I bet was huge).

This is why I am not crazy about Biden. Just running a milquetoast candidate risks the same issues. Give me someone I can actually get excited about. Give me someone I'm proud to vote for.
 

Any time she speaks at this point, the soundtrack in my mind is Katt Williams going "Simple bitch."
 
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I've mentioned multiple times that I voted for Gary Johnson. Granted, I'm in New York and I figured it was safe to not for against Trump (and Hillary won my state easily without me).

I always say the same thing - Hillary failed to convince me to vote for her. I voted Obama twice, so it wasn't like I was a hard sell. I didn't give two f**** about her e-mails. I followed the facts and it wasn't a big deal. Hillary still did nothing to campaign. I remember turning on CNN hoping to see something from her, but it was all Trump 24/7. I remember getting on her e-mail list, because I wanted to find out more straight from her campaign. All I ever got was "Trump was awful". I didn't need to be convinced of that, I knew that.

Maybe some of that was just because that's now NY State is (nobody campaigns in it because it is a lock), but I couldn't even find out more when I went out looking. Best I can tell she barely campaigned those last two months. (I remember her getting pneumonia around then too which I bet was huge).

This is why I am not crazy about Biden. Just running a milquetoast candidate risks the same issues. Give me someone I can actually get excited about. Give me someone I'm proud to vote for.

There is a big difference between Johnson and Stein. At least with Johnson you could understand why someone would actually want him to be President and he would likely be competent at the job.

If you are going to vote third party at least pick out someone credible and capable. Obviously "both sides were bad" stuff looks real dumb now but if you are going to subscribe to that why flush your vote on someone that is so obviously not any better. Write in a name or something.

"They would have just stayed home" is why Stein voters are worse than Trump voters. Trumpers made a decision and likely got exactly what they wanted. Taking your ball and going home is just about trying to make yourself feel superior and nothing more.
 
I voted for Jill Stein 😁

I thought both Hillary and Trump were awful candidates. Most people who are disgusted with both parties are the people who just stay home. Maybe I should've just stayed home since there is no vote option for None Of The Above.

I also had concerns Hillary was a major Warhawk.

Then you should have voted for Trump
 
There is a big difference between Johnson and Stein. At least with Johnson you could understand why someone would actually want him to be President and he would likely be competent at the job.

If you are going to vote third party at least pick out someone credible and capable. Obviously "both sides were bad" stuff looks real dumb now but if you are going to subscribe to that why flush your vote on someone that is so obviously not any better. Write in a name or something.

"They would have just stayed home" is why Stein voters are worse than Trump voters. Trumpers made a decision and likely got exactly what they wanted. Taking your ball and going home is just about trying to make yourself feel superior and nothing more.

I still blame the people who stayed home (almost half the country) the most. People saw a reality TV star running for President.

Even now, a huge chunk of people are ignoring a President who lies and commits crimes in plain sight. If enough people stood up and even called their congressperson to complain, especially in GOP districts, Trump would be impeached already.

Voting in the midterms was up but not a ton. A huge portion of this country still seems fine with what is going on.
 
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