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lol that's what I was getting at. Blamed it on Obama, and then claimed to have "rebuilt" the military, that was already massively built. Either way, let's hope nothing else happens from this point forward.
LOL!!! When I clicked on your quote notification from your prior post I thought it was about my AppleTV remote and you were telling me to blame Obama for it bouncing towards the middle of the bed!
 
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It is "Obama"s fault" for making a good agreement with Iran that gave each side something. This agreement would have eased tensions for years, but Trump had to rip up the deal and replace it with... nothing.

People are acting like Iran would have just done this anyway, but that's not true. Iran started reacting to us backing out of the deal and putting sanctions back in place. Their economy is a mess on a good day, and the sanctions really hurt them. Iran isn't crazy. They are one of the few countries that can be reasoned with, even if they are our enemy.

Obama's deal wouldn't have kept Iran at bay forever, but it would have kept them from being a problem for the reasonable future. Iran has more problems with their economy and people protesting to have messed with us unless forced into a corner.
 
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Why not bring some of that Art of Diplomacy he uses with Kim Jong Un to addressing Iran?

It's weird how unneven our foreign policy is between the Middle East and the Far East.
 
He had the nerve to make the deal while black.

It's comments like this that will get Trump reelected. Stop spewing this race/gender garbage that's permeated the Democratic party. I didn't vote for Trump and despise his narcissistic behavior. BUT, the way democrats have acted since his election has been far more disturbing than the Trump presidency. The immediate need to impeach, protest the election results, and shame any Trump supporter points to the greater evil.

The Democratic debates have been a sad state of affairs...unless you like being told you're a victim, oppressed minority, or a member of the LGBT community, why tune in? It's one big pandering session...f*ck the majority and cater to the minority. Again, you're only helping Trump get reelected with this dialogue.

Btw, if democrats and their donors would be objective in their decision making in regards to choosing the nominee, they would get behind Yang. IMO, he's the only sane candidate with ability to draw votes from moderates and current Trump supporters.
 


Its crazy that this is where we are.

At least he didn't start a war. Today.
 
Why not bring some of that Art of Diplomacy he uses with Kim Jong Un to addressing Iran?

It's weird how unneven our foreign policy is between the Middle East and the Far East.

Oil and its easier to push around countries that don't have nukes. I'm glad he talked to North Korea unfortunately Trump being who he is meant it was unlikely to really go anywhere anyway.
 
It's comments like this that will get Trump reelected. Stop spewing this race/gender garbage that's permeated the Democratic party. I didn't vote for Trump and despise his narcissistic behavior. BUT, the way democrats have acted since his election has been far more disturbing than the Trump presidency. The immediate need to impeach, protest the election results, and shame any Trump supporter points to the greater evil.

The Democratic debates have been a sad state of affairs...unless you like being told you're a victim, oppressed minority, or a member of the LGBT community, why tune in? It's one big pandering session...f*ck the majority and cater to the minority. Again, you're only helping Trump get reelected with this dialogue.

Btw, if democrats and their donors would be objective in their decision making in regards to choosing the nominee, they would get behind Yang. IMO, he's the only sane candidate with ability to draw votes from moderates and current Trump supporters.

Relations with Iran are substantially worse but me making that joke is the real problem.

I do agree that that kind of lack of priorities could get Trump reelected.
 

For Keith Swartz, who is 66 years old and runs a recruiting firm based in Tacoma, almost anything includes a president he regards as “manic, uneducated, illogical,” and also “essentially a horrible person….vulgar, amoral, narcissistic.”

Wait, this a defense of Trump? Yes, hang on. He’s done a fine job on the economy, in particular, in the face of a Democratic opposition that has bent rules and abused process for three years in an implacable bid to thwart him. “To those of us who support what he has accomplished,” Swartz concluded, “it feels like he is our O.J.”
 
Remember when Harris got run out of town for pivoting a bit off Medicare 4 All but nobody cared that Yang has the most conservative health care plan out of all the candidates?

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For Keith Swartz, who is 66 years old and runs a recruiting firm based in Tacoma, almost anything includes a president he regards as “manic, uneducated, illogical,” and also “essentially a horrible person….vulgar, amoral, narcissistic.”

Wait, this a defense of Trump? Yes, hang on. He’s done a fine job on the economy, in particular, in the face of a Democratic opposition that has bent rules and abused process for three years in an implacable bid to thwart him. “To those of us who support what he has accomplished,” Swartz concluded, “it feels like he is our O.J.”
Read the comments on that article for a good time.
 
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Remember when Harris got run out of town for pivoting a bit off Medicare 4 All but nobody cared that Yang has the most conservative health care plan out of all the candidates?

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Actually people do care, I care about it and so did the interviewer who asked him about it right after the plan was put up. He needs to be asked that again and be pushed to explain why his words don't match what's on his site. Harris wasn't run out of town for that either but it was noticed and reported by progressives and rightly so, she had signed onto Bernie's bill and kept saying she supported Medicare for all then kept "mishearing" questions etc, she was flat out lying. If Yang is doing the same thing here he should be called out for it too, he says he wants to push private insurers out by making it so they can't compete with Medicare but his plan doesn't seem to do anything of the sort.

Do you also remember when people here kept saying Tulsi Gabbard was trying to get a job with Trump yet she's been calling him unfit to lead for months and even this week has been condemning his actions regarding Iran?
 
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Actually people do care, I care about it and so did the interviewer who asked him about it right after the plan was put up. He needs to be asked that again and be pushed to explain why his words don't match what's on his site. Harris wasn't run out of town for that either but it was noticed and reported by progressives and rightly so, she had signed onto Bernie's bill and kept saying she supported Medicare for all then kept "mishearing" questions etc, she was flat out lying. If Yang is doing the same thing here he should be called out for it too, he says he wants to push private insurers out by making it so they can't compete with Medicare but his plan doesn't seem to do anything of the sort.

Do you also remember when people here kept saying Tulsi Gabbard was trying to get a job with Trump yet she's been calling him unfit to lead for months and even this week has been condemning his actions regarding Iran?

I only remember people saying she was vetted for a spot in the admin which is true and that they had a meeting about that which is true.
 
This is what the right does well and the left does poorly. They've steered the narrative. Now we're talking about exactly how bad a guy was after he's dead. Of course the right is exaggerating the threat, but this is exactly what the right wants us talking about.

Attack the right for a very questionable decision, but don't side with an Iranian general. The average voter isn't going to dig into the facts over a dead Iranian general. I saw a meme on twitter with the so called updated Democratic polling numbers and Suleiami was in there.

Gabbard pushing hard on this issue should be a giant red flag. Trump made a dumb, impulsive decision, but by dumb luck managed to not start a major war.

The Average Joe voter isn't worrying about some dead Iranian. Had WW3 kicked off, maybe, but since it didn't they don't care.

Trump lies about everything, focus on the lies that hurt him to his own people. They accuse Trump of attacking Iran to get the headlines off of impeachment, but they let him do exactly that. Headlines are off while the Senate is looking to change the rules and dismiss impeachment before they even get the articles.
 
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