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yankeessuck said:
Might need an exciting VP although I have no idea who that would or could be. I would just hope people learned their lesson from 2016 even if they disappointed that it isn't Bernie or whoever. Small step forward is still way better than a giant step back.

If Biden does win I hope he just runs away with it right from the start.
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All they need to do is keep the messaging on economy and healthcare. If there's not a major economic downturn between now and then, they need to poke holes in the GOP "good for the economy" myth. If middle class people go to the polls thinking "well, Trump's good for the economy", the Democrats lose.

This can't be Bernie's equality for all socialism. It has to be centrist stuff that used to be the bread and butter of the Democrats.
 
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I wish there was someone in between Bernie/Warren and then the others in the center. Someone left enough, energetic enough that could pull in younger people, etc. And then for VP, now hear me out... someone like Justin Amash. While he's still conservative, he's been kicked out of the party and now an Independent. Maybe the optics of that would be enough to get around the pissing match it would cause on both sides for the absolute crazies, but would also show some kind of unity in a sense and show a return to normalcy. The only problem with that is he would be a tie break in the Senate if it came down to it, so if you were going for someone crazy they'd still have to vote your way when needed.

Edit: oh gods I sound like Biden
 
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I wish there was someone in between Bernie/Warren and then the others in the center. Someone left enough, energetic enough that could pull in younger people, etc. And then for VP, now hear me out... someone like Justin Amash. While he's still conservative, he's been kicked out of the party and now an Independent. Maybe the optics of that would be enough to get around the pissing match it would cause on both sides for the absolute crazies, but would also show some kind of unity in a sense and show a return to normalcy. The only problem with that is he would be a tie break in the Senate if it came down to it, so if you were going for someone crazy they'd still have to vote your way when needed.

Edit: oh gods I sound like Biden
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Go to your room!! the last thing a Dem nominee needs is a tea party running mate lol.
 
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Kerosene31 said:
All they need to do is keep the messaging on economy and healthcare. If there's not a major economic downturn between now and then, they need to poke holes in the GOP "good for the economy" myth. If middle class people go to the polls thinking "well, Trump's good for the economy", the Democrats lose.

This can't be Bernie's equality for all socialism. It has to be centrist stuff that used to be the bread and butter of the Democrats.
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Dems used to be for the working class and wanting to make sure everyone was getting a fair shake, ever since Clinton our candidates have started off with centrist positions which kills them when it comes time to negotiate. Republicans keep moving further to the right so they keep winning this game of tug of war because our leaders keep moving where the center is to accommodate their opponents and it's insane. I don't believe Bernie would get medicare for all through but if that's his starting point for negotiations at least we should get a much better system and more people covered than we have now. If Biden is elected we'd probably end up giving things away and not getting anything in return.
 
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Viktor said:
I wish there was someone in between Bernie/Warren and then the others in the center. Someone left enough, energetic enough that could pull in younger people, etc. And then for VP, now hear me out... someone like Justin Amash. While he's still conservative, he's been kicked out of the party and now an Independent. Maybe the optics of that would be enough to get around the pissing match it would cause on both sides for the absolute crazies, but would also show some kind of unity in a sense and show a return to normalcy. The only problem with that is he would be a tie break in the Senate if it came down to it, so if you were going for someone crazy they'd still have to vote your way when needed.

Edit: oh gods I sound like Biden
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And then Biden dies because he is old and now he is President

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Seems silly to bring up her not endorsing him or her running against him. Bernie didn't have ownership over running for President. He is also running against her too afterall.
 
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yankeessuck said:
And then Biden dies because he is old and now he is President



Seems silly to bring up her not endorsing him or her running against him. Bernie didn't have ownership over running for President. He is also running against her too afterall.
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The point is she released an unprovable smear against him and he's done nothing but be supportive of her for years.
 
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JinCA said:
Bloomberg already at 9 without a single debate appearance.
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He would have more of legit beef about being left out of the debates than anyone. He is a billionaire he shouldn't be taking donations.

Also Krystal Ball sure is biased.
 
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The point is she released an unprovable smear against him and he's done nothing but be supportive of her for years.
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Warren-Sanders audio leaks: 'I think you called me a liar on national TV'

Both accused the other of challenging their integrity.
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Sanders said that what he “did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could.”
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Which is what I said says ago happened. Nobody's saying he every said a woman can't become president, but it's quite believable that he was saying that this election " you can't win" in a more general sense. It always amazes me how when Warren's staffers (assuming that the people she told two years ago about this are on staff now) are always assumed to be snakes but Sanders somehow had no idea of what his staffers are doing this year and not responsible for the rampant misogyny from the Bernie Bros in 16.
 
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hrudey said:
www.politico.com

Warren-Sanders audio leaks: 'I think you called me a liar on national TV'

Both accused the other of challenging their integrity.
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Which is what I said says ago happened. Nobody's saying he every said a woman can't become president, but it's quite believable that he was saying that this election " you can't win" in a more general sense. It always amazes me how when Warren's staffers (assuming that the people she told two years ago about this are on staff now) are always assumed to be snakes but Sanders somehow had no idea of what his staffers are doing this year and not responsible for the rampant misogyny from the Bernie Bros in 16.
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I've never met a Bernie Bro I've only heard about them from Hillary Supporters.

Sanders campaign was just pointing out that Warren isn't bringing in new voters she's polling well with affluent suburban whites and that's really it, that's not a slant that's just the truth. She's also losing to Trump in head to head battleground state polls.

If Sanders said that Trump would be ruthless and attack a woman that's just true, that is nothing like saying a woman can't win which is what Warren's staff was saying and she didn't deny.

 
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I'm not a fan of Klobuchar but I respect this answer about a woman winning vs the way Warren and some others have played it.
 
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NY Times endorsed Warren and Klobuchar, I'm guessing their board couldn't come to an agreement because those two politicians have very different goals.
 
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NY Times endorsed Warren and Klobuchar, I'm guessing their board couldn't come to an agreement because those two politicians have very different goals.
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That was the reason they picked them both and that is really stupid.

Their top 4 were Warren/Klob/Booker/Pete.

Funny thing is the NYT were the ones who had the story of how Klobuchar throws phones and staplers at her staff but now decides if the staffs fault

 
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yankeessuck said:
That was the reason they picked them both and that is really stupid.

Their top 4 were Warren/Klob/Booker/Pete.

Funny thing is the NYT were the ones who had the story of how Klobuchar throws phones and staplers at her staff but now decides if the staffs fault

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Clobb'uchar?
 
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yankeessuck said:
That was the reason they picked them both and that is really stupid.

Their top 4 were Warren/Klob/Booker/Pete.

Funny thing is the NYT were the ones who had the story of how Klobuchar throws phones and staplers at her staff but now decides if the staffs fault

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That top 4 leads me to believe they were more worried about going for woke points than anything else. Booker had no policy positions that I'm aware of that were new and different, the guy is married to Wall St, Buttigieg is the same thing only in a younger gay white skin and the two women are very different with policy positions but one has been known to fib and the other seemingly enjoys treating people poorly. I knew Bernie was a no go when he told them to their faces that the NYT may have let people down along with establishment Dems and Reps while talking about why Trump was elected.
 
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