I don't know what Conway's end game is, but I'll take his words for now.
I don't know what Conway's end game is, but I'll take his words for now.
She said GOP was grooming and it was reported as Russia was grooming her. Sure sounds like a misquote.
Clinton:
"The thing we have to do is get enough people to turn out so that they can’t, you know, steal those votes through suppression in Wisconsin, or convince blacks not to vote in Michigan, all the stuff that they did this last time which was very effective and the Russians play a big role in."
Plouffe: "Right, and they’ll double down on this time. Trump had those advantages but he was not an incumbent. So as we know, whether it’s Ronald Regan, your husband, Barack Obama, those first 18 months of the election cycle were as important as the last six months. …
"You know, Donald Trump, as you know better than anyone in the world, only got 46.1% of the vote nationally. You know he got 47.2 in Wisconsin, 47.7 in Michigan, and if you had said those before the election you would have said he's going to lose in a landslide."
Clinton: "Right."
Plouffe: "But one of the reasons he was able to win is the third party vote."
Clinton: "Right."
Plouffe: "And what's clear to me, you mentioned, you know, he's going to just lie. ... He's going to say, whoever our nominee is, ‘will ban hamburgers and steaks and you can't fly and infanticide’ and people believe this. So, how concerned are you about that? For me, so much of this does come down to the win number. If he has to get 49 or even 49.5 in a bunch of…"
Clinton: "He can't do that."
Plouffe: "...which I don't think he can... So he's going to try and drive the people not to vote for him but just to say, ‘you know, you can't vote for them either.’ And that seems to be, I think, to the extent that I can define a strategy, their key strategy right now."
Clinton: "Well, I think there's going to be two parts and I think it's going to be the same as 2016: ‘Don't vote for the other guy. You don't like me? Don't vote for the other guy because the other guy is going to do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things and I'm going to show you in these, you know, flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they're on the dark web, and nobody can find them, but you're going to see them and you're going to see that person doing these horrible things.’"
"They're also going to do third party again. And I'm not making any predictions but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, 'cause she's also a Russian asset."
Plouffe: (Inaudible)
Clinton: "Yeah, she's a Russian asset, I mean, totally.
"And so, they know they can't win without a third party candidate and, so, I don't know who it's going to be it but I will guarantee you they'll have a vigorous third party challenge in the key states that they most need it."
She mixes the Russians in even before the part I quote earlier, she was talking about them as a combination and for people to pretend she was only talking about the GOP is sad she NEVER said it was just the GOP. She knows what she did and that's why it took so long to walk it back, if the reaction had been more favorable to her we wouldn't have heard a thing out of her camp. It's also sad that she still blames 3rd party candidates for her loss, it was up to her to convince people to vote for her, she wasn't owed their vote. This entitled attitude of hers is why so many people can't stand her, well that and her inability to take the blame for anything she does wrong.
She is talking about Trump and about how they are going to try to win again. That is exactly why the media is at fault there because yeah if you skim through you don't see Republican and you do see Russians but if you read it she is talking about GOP/Trump.
She has said Trump was working for the Russian's all along, she mentions him and Russia in her statements so it's not much of a leap, especially the last part about Stein also being a Russian asset.
Maybe its not a big leap but its still not accurate. The media should be held to a higher standard. If the headline was about the GOP grooming this story would have died fast.
I actually think the Stein comment could be taken as "Jill Stein is a third party candidate in addition to being russian asset" but whatever she is trying to say is not clear and that is a valid criticism. Its still doesn't mean the media got it right because they certainly did not and also asset doesn't mean agent.
If HRC really didn't mean it that way she would have cleared it up that night, it took several days and only after a backlash in the media and other politicians taking Gabbards side did Hillary's camp try to walk it back. There isn't much point in us debating this issue anymore, you have your view and I have mine. I just don't trust Hillary so when it comes to things like this she has to do more to prove it, if she had at least apologized to Tulsi Gabbard for not being clear and telling her she respected her military service and in no way meant to imply she was a Russian asset I would believe it, she did nothing of the sort. The fact is Gabbard has said continuously that she's not running 3rd party and Clinton implied that she would so at the very least she is calling her a liar and coming from HRC that's rich.
If HRC really didn't mean it that way she would have cleared it up that night, it took several days and only after a backlash in the media and other politicians taking Gabbards side did Hillary's camp try to walk it back. There isn't much point in us debating this issue anymore, you have your view and I have mine. I just don't trust Hillary so when it comes to things like this she has to do more to prove it, if she had at least apologized to Tulsi Gabbard for not being clear and telling her she respected her military service and in no way meant to imply she was a Russian asset I would believe it, she did nothing of the sort. The fact is Gabbard has said continuously that she's not running 3rd party and Clinton implied that she would so at the very least she is calling her a liar and coming from HRC that's rich.
You're attaching a lot more weight to this than most people gave it. I didn't hear about this "scandal" until it was done. We're talking about a failed candidate who couldn't beat Trump and a 2%er in the primary now. I mean, had Obama called out Bernie or Warren, that would be news. This? It wasn't even on my radar.
My entire problem with this is it is trying to perpetuate the "Clinton foundation" myth that the Clintons run everything in the Democratic party. In reality this is a spat between two people who will never be president.
And yes, Hillary was 100% wrong to take the bait. Unfortunately this is the Democrats biggest weakness, they fail to see the landmines until they already step on them. If the Democrats were smart, they would ignore the Tulsi's of the world and focus on winning votes.
There was ZERO when I went.In and out of the polls within like 2 minutes this morning. Went at about 6:45 so the lines were nonexistent. Love living like three blocks from the place!
My district's ticket was only Dems, with the exception of one Libertarian running against a very well known and hated Democrat for State Senate. He'll still win by a landslide. Hoping we can somehow flip Virginia blue, but with the massive amounts of R's in the western part of the state, it probably won't happen. Crossing my fingers for results tonight!
Hoping that's not a national trend. The midterms last year had a great turnout, just don't think people realize how important all elections are, especially state and local. Honestly want Virginia to turn blue in the state if only for them to possibly push legalizing weed, so we can get that crazy tax money that Colorado and other states are getting.There was ZERO when I went.
Hoping that's not a national trend. The midterms last year had a great turnout, just don't think people realize how important all elections are, especially state and local. Honestly want Virginia to turn blue in the state if only for them to possibly push legalizing weed, so we can get that crazy tax money that Colorado and other states are getting.