The final 2016 United States Presidential Election Thread! Who you got?

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Someone said "It's terrible. Hillary is going to get elected. This is terrible."

I said "she's better than the alternative."

"She is a liar. You can't trust a liar this the nuclear codes."

"Isn't trump 10x the liar she is. And he threatened to bomb ducking Europe!"

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Trump had a rally in Tampa yesterday and over 20,000 showed up. Today at the Hillary rally, there MAY be 2,000 people there...If she's lucky.
I drive around...ALOT for my job here, through all of Tampa, Sarasota, Bradenton, St Pete and I see Trump signs all over the place and I have seen 1(no joke) Clinton sign in the past month since I have been actually looking and noticing. No bumper stickers...There is absolutely zero enthusiasm for her..
I drove past an early voting site today and there were no Clinton signs there either..
Michael Moore says Trump will win. He actually makes a good case..


The problem is that no matter how excited a voting base is, each one of their votes counts one time (unless you're reading this on Breitbart/Trump news, in which case numbers and facts mean nothing anyhow). Trump's got his 30-35% voter base frothing and probably about another 5-10% who would normally be eagerly Republican who are going to hold their nose and vote for him because of the Supreme Court.

He's not winning independents. There are more Democrats in this country than Republicans. If he really wanted to be President and was capable of actually following a strategy to do so, after the primaries he would have run to the middle, because his 30% base is more likely to vote for a Republican who claims to be the Anti-Christ to be the Dictator of the Christian United States of 'murka than they would be to vote for a Democrat, let alone a Democratic woman, let alone a Democratic woman who their propaganda outlets have been smearing as evil since before Fox News was a thing.

I don't know if he's incapable of following the strategy or simply pandering to his future TNN audience, or possibly if the first transitioned to the second. But there's simply no feasible way they seriously expected that they could take a voting pool that didn't even win for Romney, and then be as anti-women as they've been when the alternative is an actual humaniform of the female persuasion, and expect that to go well.
 
The problem is that no matter how excited a voting base is, each one of their votes counts one time (unless you're reading this on Breitbart/Trump news, in which case numbers and facts mean nothing anyhow). Trump's got his 30-35% voter base frothing and probably about another 5-10% who would normally be eagerly Republican who are going to hold their nose and vote for him because of the Supreme Court.

He's not winning independents. There are more Democrats in this country than Republicans. If he really wanted to be President and was capable of actually following a strategy to do so, after the primaries he would have run to the middle, because his 30% base is more likely to vote for a Republican who claims to be the Anti-Christ to be the Dictator of the Christian United States of 'murka than they would be to vote for a Democrat, let alone a Democratic woman, let alone a Democratic woman who their propaganda outlets have been smearing as evil since before Fox News was a thing.

I don't know if he's incapable of following the strategy or simply pandering to his future TNN audience, or possibly if the first transitioned to the second. But there's simply no feasible way they seriously expected that they could take a voting pool that didn't even win for Romney, and then be as anti-women as they've been when the alternative is an actual humaniform of the female persuasion, and expect that to go well.
But the one poll shows Trump winning and the rest are lies. You know nothing!
 
Thats simply not true , in Florida at least..See for yourself...Also, many republicans wait till election day to vote anyway.
As it was intended to be...I havent voted yet..
https://countyballotfiles.elections...eports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats


Yes

Florida generally leans strong Republican on absentee ballots and usually goes pretty Democratic on early voting. Early voting started Monday, so we haven't had a weekend yet - and that's generally when Democratic early voters show up most. The numbers also, last I heard, showed that the GOP edge in absentee ballots is much narrower than in previous elections. I think the odds are good that Rubio probably does win the state by 3-4%, but Trump loses it by a similar margin. Of course, I'm in a suburb county that's overwhelmingly red - to the point of more registered independents than Democrats, and more Republicans than both I and D combined. I'm sure the county is still going to go Trump, but I can say that the lawn sign / bumper sticker activity is greatly diminished here, at least in terms of the Presidential and Senate races. The hard-core alt-right is fired up, so those cars that have had the wall of bumper stickers spewing that message are all sporting Trump stuff, but the Romney / McCain ones, even the people who generally had the "W" stickers in 04, are a lot less likely to be showing Trump support now.

That's anecdotal, of course, and not predictive, other than my predictions which were merely my own estimated opinions.
 
He has a fourth grade vocabulary and speaking ability.

<Trump>Wrong. Wrong! I have the best words, tremendous words, in Florida and in Ohio and in Pennsylvania, the best words. It's terrible the words that come out of that nasty woman's mouth in Pennsylvania, why isn't she in jail? She's crooked and corrupt, and probably sleeping right now. Sad! You're just another crooked media outlet, trying to rig the election against me and my people, it's pathetic, just like those women who accused me of those awful things, never happened, not true, and after the election I'll sue them, and I'll probably sue you for libel too.</Trump>
 
The delusion of the citizens of Trumpland.



Wait, it's possible to confront lies with facts, rather than just differently-slanted lies? Has someone thought to include this radical new notion in our nation's journalism programs?
 
So if Trump wins.......your good with your kids living with that?

That's the problem.....Trump had shot himself so many times now, he's walking on nothing but stomps. He just doesn't realize it yet but everyone else does, hence why he is loosing so badly. Clinton doesn't need my help now and besides, again, for me, she has to prove herself first before she can win my vote. Trump? I'm not voting for him one way or the other.
 
The problem is that no matter how excited a voting base is, each one of their votes counts one time (unless you're reading this on Breitbart/Trump news, in which case numbers and facts mean nothing anyhow). Trump's got his 30-35% voter base frothing and probably about another 5-10% who would normally be eagerly Republican who are going to hold their nose and vote for him because of the Supreme Court.

SNIP.

This is why it is so hard to gauge a national vote locally. Trump supporters especially and Republicans in general right now has a nasty habit of projecting what is going around them locally and then pan it nation wide and then said the Republicans and Trump is winning. Again, as I've said, it usually is the loosers that are coming out of their woodworks, going to rallies, jawing online and screaming like nuts that they are winning and are the most vocal. But after the election is over, they found out starkly that they are vocal alright. The vocal minority that is....

Same with Florida. Trump maybe very popular with the whites, especially older and more rural ones. But the more educated and urban whites all basically support Clinton. The real kicker is with the Hispanics and Asian-Americans, two of the fastest growing minorities in the STate and both support Clinton and the Dems by a huge majority. This is why most polls are showing the State is leaning ever more into Clinton camp. Women votes not withstanding (and a majority of women are voting for Clinton, especially after the putty tat fiasco), the deal breaker will be the Hispanics and Asian-American turn out. And Hispanics especially turn out in large numbers during a major election here. Add in the X-Factor of the ground game, or Trump's lack there-of, and I think Clinton is around 85% home in Florida!
 
That's the problem.....Trump had shot himself so many times now, he's walking on nothing but stomps. He just doesn't realize it yet but everyone else does, hence why he is loosing so badly. Clinton doesn't need my help now and besides, again, for me, she has to prove herself first before she can win my vote. Trump? I'm not voting for him one way or the other.

I hope your right but anything can happen. Polls are getting closer and this latest batch of emails from Wikileaks looks really bad for Clinton.
 
Old Aleppo losing his cool. Plummeting poll numbers finally getting to him?

 
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Man, he snaps.

'No economist says that it's a good plan.' 'Look, I came out in favor of marijuana.' :yspooked:

Yeah, I had seen something about this and most of the way through the video, I was surprised at the way it had been portrayed, but he snapped faster than a smart woman's legs if the Donald is in fisting distance.
 
I hope your right but anything can happen. Polls are getting closer and this latest batch of emails from Wikileaks looks really bad for Clinton.

Trump maybe getting closer, especially now since his supporters are losing it...Badly...But the math is very much on Clinton's side. EC wise, Clinton bare minimum got 271-276 EC votes already. This is without Ohio or Florida! If she wins Florida, then Trump can really pack it and go home! Not to mention states, Red states like AZ, TX, GA, NC are all in play right now too!

And ohh, this will not help Trump either!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/down-tic...g-the-gop-in-the-homestretch-2-175428920.html

Well, right now it looks like it's "anything and everything goes" for the Repubs....With Trump only caring about his own brand, there is only one law that applies to the Repubs with only 12 days to go, Murphy's.
 
This poll is Rigged! it flipped my Trump vote to Killary. Plainview is a global elitist technocrat confirmed, and also probably a demon.

*Hulks out. Rips shirt off.
 
The economy grew at 2.9% in the last quarter.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...-prolonged-slump/ar-AAjvRdb?OCID=ansmsnnews11

The economy bounced back from a prolonged slump in the third quarter as businesses stepped up investment, exports surged and consumer spending picked up moderately.

I'm not sure how to react. On the one hand, it's good news for the economy, but on the other, it's hard to reconcile these facts with Trump's bleating about 1% growth and economic disaster and so forth. He's been such a true and faithful dispenser of truth and wisdom and now that this comes out, I wonder if it's possible that he's not always entirely correct.

(I don't think we have an official sarcasm font, so Klingon-blood italics will have to do).
 
The economy grew at 2.9% in the last quarter.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...-prolonged-slump/ar-AAjvRdb?OCID=ansmsnnews11



I'm not sure how to react. On the one hand, it's good news for the economy, but on the other, it's hard to reconcile these facts with Trump's bleating about 1% growth and economic disaster and so forth. He's been such a true and faithful dispenser of truth and wisdom and now that this comes out, I wonder if it's possible that he's not always entirely correct.

(I don't think we have an official sarcasm font, so Klingon-blood italics will have to do).
Thanks Obama.
 
FBI reopens Clinton case. News ratings must have been dropping off. Gonna get interesting / scary.
 
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