The PS5’s SSD could spell doom for next-gen PC game ports

and you think the 3rd party is going to make a game based on one SDD from Sony and screw the other base?
If anything SONY made a bad investment on this type of drive, They will get the standard treatment like everyone else.
No and that's why PC ports are in trouble/or 3rd party PS5 games will be gimped.
 
The example given in the quote was that you could fly into a large heavily populated city on a dragon without there having to be an artificial boundary giving the game time to load in. Now if you tried to do that and there was even two seconds of load time it's not seamless, it's not instant.

If the loading time is over the frame render time is not instant. So, for example, if the PS5 gets it loaded in 10 ms (for 100 fps because that's easy to compute) then the xbsx would load it in under 40 ms in an even worse than worst case scenario. Realistically, both would start losing in summer of that area sooner and hopefully actually do some CPU work with the actors in the scene.
 
and you think the 3rd party is going to make a game based on one SDD from Sony and screw the other base?
If anything SONY made a bad investment on this type of drive, They will get the standard treatment like everyone else.

Sony had such a huge lead last gen that it's not that far fetched. It wouldn't take that many 3rd party developers to go exclusive to Sony for it to have a big impact, but that's really dependent on if the it would be worth it. That's debatable.
 
Sony had such a huge lead last gen that it's not that far fetched. It wouldn't take that many 3rd party developers to go exclusive to Sony for it to have a big impact, but that's really dependent on if the it would be worth it. That's debatable.
that doesn't equal the same for this gen, it is a clean slate.
 
It is but the PS brand is still the most luved by gaming fans.
MS is doing all the right things(especially Smart delivery)
They just need to match Sony in price and no a 4TF alternative isn't gonna cut it.
For the casual gamer that doesn’t know what a teraflop is, Lockhart at $299 will do well.
 
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It is but the PS brand is still the most luved by gaming fans.
MS is doing all the right things(especially Smart delivery)
They just need to match Sony in price and no a 4TF alternative isn't gonna cut it.
Brand loyalty I think is overrated as a reason for Sony's success. XBOX 360 vastly outsold PS3 in UK & US. & in Germany, the split of 360/PS3 is roughly a respectable 40/60. But Sony wide the floor in every major region's current-gen. MS delivered an inferior product at a higher price at launch & acclaimed AAA exclusives can be counted with a single hand (half of them has a Forza name), after almost 7 years....Sony can deliver as many if not more AAA acclaimed titles in a year than all 7 years of MS combined.

If Phil worked in my corporation, he would already be long gone for incompetency. If I am him, I will bow down resign in shame, Japanese style, & choose a different career like I don't know, gardener, call center operator or something that can't be screwed up.
 
So, loading area transitions in a second as opposed to, what, two on the xbsx? Or even three, although that also assumes they can't figure out you're going to a city sized area three seconds in advance and start streaming it in then.

Now, of course, compared to x1x or ps4pro, it's game changing.
One thing to consider on that front too, is that Cerny himself even said that instant presentation of that transition isn't necessarily ideal. They may need to artificially lengthen them in order to keep it from being too jarring. Adding a second or two for fade ins and outs are a real thing. I do it at work all the time to improve presentations. Smooth out that that transition.
 
Brand loyalty I think is overrated as a reason for Sony's success. XBOX 360 vastly outsold PS3 in UK & US. & in Germany, the split of 360/PS3 is roughly a respectable 40/60. But Sony wide the floor in every major region's current-gen. MS delivered an inferior product at a higher price at launch & acclaimed AAA exclusives can be counted with a single hand (half of them has a Forza name), after almost 7 years....Sony can deliver as many if not more AAA acclaimed titles in a year than all 7 years of MS combined.

If Phil worked in my corporation, he would already be long gone for incompetency. If I am him, I will bow down resign in shame, Japanese style, & choose a different career like I don't know, gardener, call center operator or something that can't be screwed up.

Yeah no. Phil being in charge is the best thing to happen to Xbox, imo. He's pulled it from the brink of disaster.

I agree about loyalty, but having an entire library of games be available to play at an improved state on new hardware is a great reason to stick with it. Your assessment of Sony's exclusives is still subjective. I love many of them, but I also think they are a bit overrated. I've replayed MS' exclusives more than my Playstation ones. Just saying. I DO want MS to get closer in their presentation, though. I actually find MS games to play better (though Sony's games have come a long way with PS4).
 
A leap has to be shown or nobody will buy new machines.
Casual kiddos and parents will buy the new gen $299 machine. No ifs, ands or butts......it's the same reason the Xbox SADE was the best seller on this most recent Black Friday, and is the weakest performance of the PS/Xbox brand. Bargain price and current gen.
 
Casual kiddos and parents will buy the new gen $299 machine. No ifs, ands or butts......it's the same reason the Xbox SADE was the best seller on this most recent Black Friday, and is the weakest performance of the PS/Xbox brand. Bargain price and current gen.
This only works if the console is made by Nintendo.
Casuals find a reason when buying a new console and improved visuals is why all gamers buy new machines.
 
Casual kiddos and parents will buy the new gen $299 machine. No ifs, ands or butts......it's the same reason the Xbox SADE was the best seller on this most recent Black Friday, and is the weakest performance of the PS/Xbox brand. Bargain price and current gen.
Fact
 

Agreed. Most people on gaming forums aren’t casual gamers, so it might be a little harder to understand why a $299 (or $249...?) 4 TF system would appeal to the masses

But the reality is there are a LOT of casuals that only play Fortnite, Minecraft, etc, and don’t care as much about resolution, or tech for that matter. Or those just looking to buy a console for a gift. Plus 4K TVs only account for about half the TVs out there right now.

MS and Sony are already doing this with base and Pro versions. I don’t see why doing that again next gen is such a stretch? It just expands the user base for each machine.

And again, going forward it’s going to be easier and cheaper to just stop making the current S and X as the tech ages.
 

You forget X1 loses WW sales every month. Technically they haven't beat Sony any month this gen. Kiddos and casuals buy the most popular console. They don't care what's cheaper...

Valliance is right though. People need to visually see a difference before they make purchase. It Don't matter how cheap it is. If pple don't see a difference they won't buy.
 
You forget X1 loses WW sales every month.
X1 is also sold in half the countries WW. It was also the best selling console (the SADE version) during the holiday week. And it is currently the best selling console at Amazon. Thanks to the low entry price of the SADE.

PS sold well because of games, double the countries, and of course it came out $100 cheaper. Price is a huge factor, especially for casuals and parents.

Rollins nailed it and is right:

Agreed. Most people on gaming forums aren’t casual gamers, so it might be a little harder to understand why a $299 (or $249...?) 4 TF system would appeal to the masses

But the reality is there are a LOT of casuals that only play Fortnite, Minecraft, etc, and don’t care as much about resolution, or tech for that matter. Or those just looking to buy a console for a gift. Plus 4K TVs only account for about half the TVs out there right now.

MS and Sony are already doing this with base and Pro versions. I don’t see why doing that again next gen is such a stretch? It just expands the user base for each machine.

And again, going forward it’s going to be easier and cheaper to just stop making the current S and X as the tech ages.
 
X1 is also sold in half the countries WW. It was also the best selling console (the SADE version) during the holiday week. And it is currently the best selling console at Amazon. Thanks to the low entry price of the SADE.

PS sold well because of games, double the countries, and of course it came out $100 cheaper. Price is a huge factor, especially for casuals and parents.

Rollins nailed it and is right:


You playing the "What if" game. I'm speaking WW sales not Amazon hype.

Price and games don't matter if there's no visual upgrade. No one wants to spend 400 + on graphics they already have otherwise there's no point in upgrading.
 
You playing the "What if" game. I'm speaking WW sales not Amazon hype.

Price and games don't matter if there's no visual upgrade. No one wants to spend 400 + on graphics they already have otherwise there's no point in upgrading.
I respect your opinion. All good in the neighborhood. We can’t always agree.
 
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