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If this is real I'll buy their PPV's straight up no questions asked. Like legit love him so much I'd actually watch AEW weekly. Also, the New York show referenced here is on 9/22, and it's just an episode of Dynamite.

 
Daniel Bryan is kind of old new now isn't he? His WWE stuff was already fading, this isn't the yes movement era anymore. His matches are basically the same thing all the time, at least they have good psychology to them but I don't get why he's such a big deal, it looks kind of 2nd rate to constantly be taking another companies rejects and then acting as if you have something big. One thing he needs to stop is those off the top rope headbutts, it's one of the fakest moves in wrestling anyway and it can actually hurt the guy executing it pretty badly. If I had a promotion I would ban top rope headbutts, Spanish fly, Canadian destroyer, atomic bomb and anything on the top rope that takes more than 5 seconds to set up once both people are up there.

I really couldn't care less about CM Punk, they'll regret that signing within 2 months, once they ask him to do something he doesn't want to do his diva side will come out and that'll be it.
 
Saw a clip of Reigns promo from Smackdown tonight, he is SOOOO much better on the mic as a heel.

 
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Daniel Bryan is kind of old new now isn't he? His WWE stuff was already fading, this isn't the yes movement era anymore. His matches are basically the same thing all the time, at least they have good psychology to them but I don't get why he's such a big deal, it looks kind of 2nd rate to constantly be taking another companies rejects and then acting as if you have something big. One thing he needs to stop is those off the top rope headbutts, it's one of the fakest moves in wrestling anyway and it can actually hurt the guy executing it pretty badly. If I had a promotion I would ban top rope headbutts, Spanish fly, Canadian destroyer, atomic bomb and anything on the top rope that takes more than 5 seconds to set up once both people are up there.

I really couldn't care less about CM Punk, they'll regret that signing within 2 months, once they ask him to do something he doesn't want to do his diva side will come out and that'll be it.
thats all great but those 2 would be an enormous signing for AEW no matter what your opinion is of them

i dont think it will increase their viewers too much but it will keep them above 1m more consistently. CM Punk is the bigger and more exciting signing of the 2, mainly cause we haven't seen him for 7 years and his promos and matches have way more freedom without the PG crap
 
thats all great but those 2 would be an enormous signing for AEW no matter what your opinion is of them

i dont think it will increase their viewers too much but it will keep them above 1m more consistently. CM Punk is the bigger and more exciting signing of the 2, mainly cause we haven't seen him for 7 years and his promos and matches have way more freedom without the PG crap
I've never seen him as a great in ring performer, a lot of his stuff looks sloppy and that top rope elbow he does is awful. He's better with the promos and setting the story for sure but he's also a bit of an entitled prick so we'll see how it goes.
 
Your AEW champion! As a gay man I think this is silly and as a wrestling fan I think it embarrassing. The "gay" stuff is all just for show and is not meant to move any cause forward it's just to shock people and it's goofy and wrestling with a blow up doll? c'mon how is this guy the face (and VP) of a well funded promotion?
 
Punk was solid in the ring but yes the elbow always looked weak but he could tell a story and carry a match and was quality on the mic. Problem for him now is everyone knows he can't fight for s***.
Bryan is simply class and at this stage clearly just wants to be able to wrestle certain people and you can't blame him.
 
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Honestly, I think Punk's career is pretty distinguished. He knew how to tell a story but turn up the heat and wrestle in competitive style matches. I can honestly say I was never bored during a Punk match. Hard to say how Punk will fare now that he's in his 40s, but if committed, he could probably do a year or two, maybe more, and end his career on a far more memorable footnote than the Royal Rumble fiasco, lawsuit, and failed UFC run. Personally, I'd love to see him be a manager type character and bring back the heel manager stable. I could see him doing cross promotional stuff with AEW, Impact, NJPW, etc. as well. I'm not sure where his health is at the moment, last I heard, he was in a much better place physically.
 
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An ideal comparison would be Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage when they went from WWF to WCW. A lot of people thought they were washed up and ended up having massive resurgences in wrestling. I don't think they'll have an angle quite as heavy as the NWO was, but it's something to consider.

Hulkster was 39 and Randy was 42.
Bryan Danielson is 39 and CM Punk is 42.
 
Punk was solid in the ring but yes the elbow always looked weak but he could tell a story and carry a match and was quality on the mic. Problem for him now is everyone knows he can't fight for s***.
Bryan is simply class and at this stage clearly just wants to be able to wrestle certain people and you can't blame him.
Punk is just an ass, yeah the pipe bomb thing was great but he's so full of himself it's pathetic and he's not as good as he thinks he is. Bryan is the better of the two but are the fans just going to start doing the Yes thing again or will they buy whatever Khan comes up with? Bryan's appeal a lot of the time was that he was an underdog, half of AEW's roster is his size so that won't be the case most of the time.
 
Next one to leave?



They just need to stop calling people up from NXT if they aren't serious about doing something with them and committing. If Vince needs to spend more time evaluating people before calling them up.
 
You can see why Adam Cole has 0 intention of moving from NXT. Lee just needs to go back or to Smackdown to be used correctly
 
Domino's pizza isn't happy with AEW's pizza cutter spot the other night, that match was just stupid and if Khan keeps booking that kind of thing on a national cable show he's going to find a bunch of advertisers leaving.

https://wrestlingheadlines.com/domi...-stunt-in-new-statement-may-pull-advertising/

“We share the concerns expressed about this incident and the content of this TV-14 rated program, and are assessing our advertising presence on it going forward,” said Domino’s spokeswoman Jenny Fouracre-Petko.

It was noted that the family-friendly pizza brand might also pull its advertising schedule from AEW programming.
 
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Pretty clearly a callback to Matt Cardona vs Nick Gage when someone threw a pizza cutter at Cardona when he won.
But who knows that? lol a few people who watch that garbage stuff online, most wresting fans don't follow that stuff. There is a reason indie wrestling would never get a tv deal. I just think Khan tries way too hard with these gimmick matches, at some point they are going to run out of ways to "top themselves" and the audience will get bored because he's conditioned them into thinking he's basically running ECW with a budget.
 
Domino's pizza isn't happy with AEW's pizza cutter spot the other night, that match was just stupid and if Khan keeps booking that kind of thing on a national cable show he's going to find a bunch of advertisers leaving.

https://wrestlingheadlines.com/domi...-stunt-in-new-statement-may-pull-advertising/
probably the most interaction dominos has ever had on twitter...

i hope sponsors dont dictate the shows content, AEW is such a breath of fresh air with the variety of match types we are seeing. i guess making matches like that PPV only is viable but that would be a shame, as dynamite is becoming must watch with how much good s*** they are putting out.
 
But who knows that? lol a few people who watch that garbage stuff online, most wresting fans don't follow that stuff. There is a reason indie wrestling would never get a tv deal. I just think Khan tries way too hard with these gimmick matches, at some point they are going to run out of ways to "top themselves" and the audience will get bored because he's conditioned them into thinking he's basically running ECW with a budget.
yeah but seeing "no dq" matches on WWE be the same for the last 10 years with just kendo stick spots is so much fun

you are a weird one
 
yeah but seeing "no dq" matches on WWE be the same for the last 10 years with just kendo stick spots is so much fun

you are a weird one
Why is it that people always bring up WWE when someone criticizes AEW? Where have I said I think WWE is doing a good job overall? the ONLY thing they are doing right is Roman Reigns, the rest sucks and yes Kendo sticks make no sense being under the ring but they make more sense than having dozens of light tubes that you don't use in an arena under a ring. If you can't defend what AEW does by talking about AEW maybe you shouldn't try to defend them lol.

AEW is a clown show, way too many no DQ matches which means Khan just can't figure things out, the best most entertaining people like the Acclaimed are stuck on Dark all the time and we keep getting Blimp Jericho nearly breaking his neck every time he has a match just so he can pretend he still has something he lost 10 years ago. That finisher is so freaking dumb, he doesn't even get his elbow high enough or far back enough to come close to hitting, it's worse than John Cena's fireman's carry version of a death valley driver lol.

They have a lot of great talent and they also have a lot of garbage indie people who just want chants from the obnoxious people in the stands instead of actually having matches that make sense and tell a decent story. People kick out of 2nd rope piledrivers but will lose to something like a clothesline, you've got Jungle boy out there who AEW fans think is the second coming of Shawn Michaels but he'll never be anything close because he has the emotional range of a cactus during his promos. The inner circle sucks other than Guevara and he's terrible as a baby face, Hager is a walking sleeping pill and has no personality, Jericho needs to retire and that tag team gets an actual tag match like once every 8 months. MJF's group is better all around but they should cut Spears out and make it a modern day 4 horsemen.

As far as advertisers dictating what they do if they want the show to continue on TNT/TBS after their new contract expires they need to figure out how to grow their ratings while not pissing off their advertisers. That kind of match shouldn't be on primetime tv IMO, that s*** wasn't any good when ECW was around and it's even worse now. It didn't mean anything either, that was the 2nd match of a gauntlet type situation, is he going to have to fall into a lava pit and survive the 4th or 5th match? it's just dumb, it takes zero creativity and is meant for 10 year old's who get away with cussing at their parents lol.
 
ofcourse its gonna get compared to WWE... its the only other major wrestling show on TV!

if i wanna watch wrestling its between AEW and WWE so obviously the reason i would prefer one over the other is because one does something better than another. I dont actually watch either of them live, just highlights and recaps of the weekly shows then watch PPVs.

your complaint was about AEW having "backyard" wrestling like matches, and my view is that its good to have variety/options compared to the competition which is very stale, as they are restricted as to what they can or even want to do.

Roman was the best thing in wrestling recently but he is kind of stuck in the same loop too, one of the issues for me was in his matches against one of the USOs... it would have been so much more powerful if they werent stuck having to do PG Hell in a cell, the beat down could have felt alot more "realistic". I think Roman would be more interesting in AEW is what i am getting at
 
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Have to say I thought the domino's bit was pretty funny. I mean the bit in the ring looked s*** but cutting to that ad was funny.
 
But who knows that? lol a few people who watch that garbage stuff online, most wresting fans don't follow that stuff. There is a reason indie wrestling would never get a tv deal. I just think Khan tries way too hard with these gimmick matches, at some point they are going to run out of ways to "top themselves" and the audience will get bored because he's conditioned them into thinking he's basically running ECW with a budget.
I'm not sure if it was just being conditioned to the WWE style of blading and what not, where it's a little bit of blood and violence, but the AEW deathmatch style wrestling they do is actually uncomfortable for me. Maybe when I was a kid I'd have liked it a lot, but the amount of blood and s*** that these guys are going through is too much.

Chris Jericho is a man in his 50's with kids and a wife. Britt Baker had a similar thing when she beat Thunder Rosa all while covered in blood. They bleed to the point where I feel like it's dangerous, and it's hard for me to watch.
 
I would rather not see wrestlers cutting themselves especially after that Eddie incident.
If they legit bleed then fine let them carry on if its safe but blading is dumb and 99% of the time the camera cuts to them as they do it making it look dumb.
 
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blood is important, probably cause its a real thing around all the fake.

ideally there would be a way to fake bleeding, cause i do think its important to the story of a match but it is abit excessive.

i do believe blading is relatively safe though, probably the worst thing about it is potential scarring for the person but these guys dont cut themselves crazy deep like some that did back in the day that have horrible forehead scars
 
blood is important, probably cause its a real thing around all the fake.

ideally there would be a way to fake bleeding, cause i do think its important to the story of a match but it is abit excessive.

i do believe blading is relatively safe though, probably the worst thing about it is potential scarring for the person but these guys dont cut themselves crazy deep like some that did back in the day that have horrible forehead scars
Blood only matters if it's used sparingly, people are getting cut open almost every week on this show anymore which to me means they aren't confident in their product to get over without gimmicking it to hell ALL THE TIME. The fact that the old bucks are VP's of this company tells you about the maturational level of those running the show. If TNT comes to them and says that they can't do this kind of thing so much or at all on their channel or even worse TBS (Dusty got fired for a fake spike in his eye) which is even more "family friendly" Tony Khan is going to have to actually get creative and figure out how to run a promotion like the grown ups do instead of how the people who rent a bar or bingo hall do it.
 
I'm not sure if it was just being conditioned to the WWE style of blading and what not, where it's a little bit of blood and violence, but the AEW deathmatch style wrestling they do is actually uncomfortable for me. Maybe when I was a kid I'd have liked it a lot, but the amount of blood and s*** that these guys are going through is too much.

Chris Jericho is a man in his 50's with kids and a wife. Britt Baker had a similar thing when she beat Thunder Rosa all while covered in blood. They bleed to the point where I feel like it's dangerous, and it's hard for me to watch.
That kind of match makes me feel stupid and like a child for watching it, that's why I won't. I only saw the clips online and it was too dumb for me and watching Jericho constantly almost break his neck on a top rope hurricanrana makes me worry that he'll end up in a wheel chair. I'm not a fan of his and haven't been for a LOONG time, that list gimmick was the only thing he's done well in at least 10 years but I don't want to see him hurt just because he can't let go.