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I said the show was an 8 based on how I felt after watching it for the first time. After re-watching in 4K and getting more info the next day for Halo, Starfield and Redfall....my excitement from this week is closer to a 9 for Xbox. Really the best I've felt about the Xbox platform during an E3 week in maybe 15 years. Halo's multiplayer is on f***ing fire!!!
 
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JinCA said:
I still don't get why having a game in 2022 is huge if we don't know how good it'll be or not. I also don't believe the game is a 2022 release given they announced it with a CGI trailer in mid 2021, I know it's a different part of Arkane but they've delayed Deathloop twice.
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It might get delayed but Arkane games are huge to a certain segment of gamers. Not many devs make games like them any more. Deathloop, Redfall and Hitman 3 will literally be the only 3 games I know of over a 3 year span that are AAA single player dynamic sandbox type of games. Now that we have more info on Redfall, it still fits in with Arkane's game design style despite the co-op.

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Not posting it for the crap gamer thing just posting it so people have the info about the game, couldn't care less about people trying to dunk on a game being 30fps on a console, those of us who game on consoles should be used to it and frankly a game like flight simulator which looks to be fairly slow paced doesn't need to be 60fps anyway.
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But it's not even giving you full context of the info for the game. That's why you shouldn't clickbait for info. I know people who can't run Flight Sim at 60fps on really high end computers. The issue, apparently, is CPUs. Zen 2 CPUs just aren't enough. Neither is most of what's on the market. I've been told it doesn't even matter if you reduce resolution. Game is heavily CPU bound.

Forza 5 has a 4K/60 fps performance mode. It's likely dynamic 4K...or checkerboarded...or using some technique that isn't native. That's been kind of common this gen. They wanted to show their 12K texture captures in full 4K for the reveal but the average gamer isn't going notice some hybrid solution when playing at 60fps. Hardcore Sony fans should understand this by now as most of their 1st party games have used some alternative option at 60fps.
 
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JinCA said:


Not posting it for the crap gamer thing just posting it so people have the info about the game, couldn't care less about people trying to dunk on a game being 30fps on a console, those of us who game on consoles should be used to it and frankly a game like flight simulator which looks to be fairly slow paced doesn't need to be 60fps anyway.
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Not posting it for the crap gamer part but decided to share that tweet instead of just the original? Also looking at that guys tweet history MS must have stolen a puppy from him
 
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OneBadMutha said:
It might get delayed but Arkane games are huge to a certain segment of gamers. Not many devs make games like them any more. Deathloop, Redfall and Hitman 3 will literally be the only 3 games I know of over a 3 year span that are AAA single player dynamic sandbox type of games. Now that we have more info on Redfall, it still fits in with Arkane's game design style despite the co-op.


But it's not even giving you full context of the info for the game. That's why you shouldn't clickbait for info. I know people who can't run Flight Sim at 60fps on really high end computers. The issue, apparently, is CPUs. Zen 2 CPUs just aren't enough. Neither is most of what's on the market. I've been told it doesn't even matter if you reduce resolution. Game is heavily CPU bound.

Forza 5 has a 4K/60 fps performance mode. It's likely dynamic 4K...or checkerboarded...or using some technique that isn't native. That's been kind of common this gen. They wanted to show their 12K texture captures in full 4K for the reveal but the average gamer isn't going notice some hybrid solution when playing at 60fps. Hardcore Sony fans should understand this by now as most of their 1st party games have used some alternative option at 60fps.
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I've said since before the gen started I hoped both MS and Sony would use reconstruction instead of shooting for native 4K, it's a waste when there are better options out there.

I never click baited anything I even wrote under the tweet that I didn't care about the crap gamer thing and said that a game like flight simulator doesn't need to be 60fps anyway. I don't care about FH5 being 30fps either, yeah the performance mode is still being called 4K so they are playing fast and loose with the term just as many devs/pubs have been doing for years but again that doesn't matter to me, for all we know the 30fps mode isn't always native either but just has higher end assets. I'd rather have higher end visuals with reconstruction than lower end everything for native 4K. The FH games were always 30fps on Xbox One/One X anyway so this is nothing new and the series is popular with xbox fans so clearly the 30fps thing isn't a deal breaker.
 
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The Wolf King said:
Not posting it for the crap gamer part but decided to share that tweet instead of just the original? Also looking at that guys tweet history MS must have stolen a puppy from him
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Nope I didn't even notice the crap gamer part when I saw it on twitter just saw that Tom guys tweet, it showed up in my timeline and his tweet was the full sized one when I checked it out. Crap gamer is an idiot.
 
The Wolf King said:
Not posting it for the crap gamer part but decided to share that tweet instead of just the original? Also looking at that guys tweet history MS must have stolen a puppy from him
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He’s that guy that was all about Xbox until they decided to put their games on PC and he felt betrayed and that Xbox was losing the war. He tweeted Phil about it and said he canceled his Quantum Break preorder, then Phil responded with something like, “You canceled a preorder to a game you were excited to play because it’s going to be on PC?” That dude has pretty much been anti-Xbox ever since.
 
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Zcythe said:
He’s that guy that was all about Xbox until they decided to put their games on PC and he felt betrayed and that Xbox was losing the war. He tweeted Phil about it and said he canceled his Quantum Break preorder, then Phil responded with something like, “You canceled a preorder to a game you were excited to play because it’s going to be on PC?” That dude has pretty much been anti-Xbox ever since.
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That's pathetic.
 
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JinCA said:
I don't care about FH5 being 30fps either, yeah the performance mode is still being called 4K so they are playing fast and loose with the term just as many devs/pubs have been doing for years but again that doesn't matter to me, for all we know the 30fps mode isn't always native either but just has higher end assets.
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One of these days there's going to be a game where the "visual" mode is actually lower native resolution but much higher effects/details/etc and the performance is higher native resolution with a lot of stuff stripped out. Kind of like ultra + RT at 1440 vs. a mix of medium and high presets at native 4K.
 
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Zcythe said:
He’s that guy that was all about Xbox until they decided to put their games on PC and he felt betrayed and that Xbox was losing the war. He tweeted Phil about it and said he canceled his Quantum Break preorder, then Phil responded with something like, “You canceled a preorder to a game you were excited to play because it’s going to be on PC?” That dude has pretty much been anti-Xbox ever since.
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To add, Phil said something along the line of “because others get to play it?”
 
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