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My Rockstar Social Club account has been hacked as well now. Lol
Some Russian twat has changed my profile, language and password twice so far. I notified Rockstar.
Some Russian twat has changed my profile, language and password twice so far. I notified Rockstar.
I don't really "Get" the big deal about steam machines, or if there is a demand for what they're selling.
It's pretty much Linux, right? So that limits the number of big name AAA games you can even play on it, unless you want to reformat it and buy a copy of windows....which in a way, takes away from the purpose of the console. Right?
Yes they do. Not sure how up to date this info is, but there is a driver called 'xboxdvr' that works well.
Steambox sales are one thing, but I wonder what kind of sales EACH MODEL is doing. Weren't there something like 10 different models that were supposed to release?
Well you're going to want to install Windows 10 if anyone picks one up after these ars technica findings. Steam OS takes 21-58% framerate dip compared to Windows 10 on the same hardware.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...gnificant-performance-hit-for-steamos-gaming/
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...gnificant-performance-hit-for-steamos-gaming/
Doubt it.
I remember Valve saying how Open GL and Linux were faster than Windows and direct X, but even their source engine powered games take a beating. Well, except for L4D.
If Valves games were pretty much equal across the board then I would have agreed, but Valve have a lot of experience with Open gl and Linux, and even their games seem to be struggling to match Windows 10.
That's because nobody has cared about openGL other than Valve in ages. Even Valve's stuff was written for DX, as it was done long, long before they got into the hardware market.
Not exactly true. Playstation systems have been using Open gl for decades, and most big developers on PC have done Playstation games. Open Gl isn't the big problem--I don't think. It is the more likely linux itself and the poor development tools for it.
Obviously, if steam machines take off then those tools and the experience would gain ground fast, but I do not expect Steam machines to take off. At least not these based on the steam OS. Those like Alienwares Win 10 variant might do fine.
Wait, so opengl won't work or will work?
There is nothing wrong with Open gl. It has worked for decades, an is capable of pretty much everything that DirectX can do. Its only real issue in comparison to direct X--as best as I know--is that the tools for it are not as easy to work with.
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/316107/Valve_Steam_Machines_arent_exactly_flying_off_shelves.php
Earlier this week Valve dialed down the presence of Steam Machines on its digital store by delisting the device from the Steam hardware tab, and replacing the dedicated hardware page with a search list containing just four Steam Machines.
Some took the move as evidence that Steam Machines are on their last legs, and now Valve has responded to those claims by basically confirming them.
In a statement posted on the Steam Community forum, Valve said the delisting was indeed the result of poor sales, but noted that it hasn't stopped striving towards "a competitive and open gaming platform."
"Given that this change has sparked a lot of interest, we thought it'd make sense to address some of the points we've seen people take away from it," wrote Valve.
"While it's true Steam Machines aren't exactly flying off the shelves, our reasons for striving towards a competitive and open gaming platform haven't significantly changed.
"We're still working hard on making Linux operating systems a great place for gaming and applications. We think it will ultimately result in a better experience for developers and customers alike, including those not on Steam."
While that's hardly a ringing endorsement, Valve claims to have learned a lot about the state of the Linux ecosystem through the Steam Machine initiative, and is working on addressing the shortcomings it's unearthed.
It believes an important part of that process involves making Vulkan a competitive and well-supported graphics API, as well as making sure it has "first-class" Linux support.
"We're continuing to invest significant resources in supporting the Vulkan ecosystem, tooling and driver efforts," added the company.
"We also have other Linux initiatives in the pipe that we're not quite ready to talk about yet; SteamOS will continue to be our medium to deliver these improvements to our customers, and we think they will ultimately benefit the Linux ecosystem at large."
You can read Valve's statement in full over on the Steam Community forum.
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Being serious, I thought it was already discontinued. I am not opposed to a Steam Machine, as I do feel that Linux is a good OS. But until it gets the games and support, I would never buy one.
Earlier this week Valve dialed down the presence of Steam Machines on its digital store by delisting the device from the Steam hardware tab, and replacing the dedicated hardware page with a search list containing just four Steam Machines.
Some took the move as evidence that Steam Machines are on their last legs, and now Valve has responded to those claims by basically confirming them.
In a statement posted on the Steam Community forum, Valve said the delisting was indeed the result of poor sales, but noted that it hasn't stopped striving towards "a competitive and open gaming platform."
"Given that this change has sparked a lot of interest, we thought it'd make sense to address some of the points we've seen people take away from it," wrote Valve.
"While it's true Steam Machines aren't exactly flying off the shelves, our reasons for striving towards a competitive and open gaming platform haven't significantly changed.
"We're still working hard on making Linux operating systems a great place for gaming and applications. We think it will ultimately result in a better experience for developers and customers alike, including those not on Steam."
While that's hardly a ringing endorsement, Valve claims to have learned a lot about the state of the Linux ecosystem through the Steam Machine initiative, and is working on addressing the shortcomings it's unearthed.
It believes an important part of that process involves making Vulkan a competitive and well-supported graphics API, as well as making sure it has "first-class" Linux support.
"We're continuing to invest significant resources in supporting the Vulkan ecosystem, tooling and driver efforts," added the company.
"We also have other Linux initiatives in the pipe that we're not quite ready to talk about yet; SteamOS will continue to be our medium to deliver these improvements to our customers, and we think they will ultimately benefit the Linux ecosystem at large."
You can read Valve's statement in full over on the Steam Community forum.
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Being serious, I thought it was already discontinued. I am not opposed to a Steam Machine, as I do feel that Linux is a good OS. But until it gets the games and support, I would never buy one.
I'm guessing very few games actually support it at this point? It is too bad, I'd really like to see something compete with MS (and I'm not even a hater of MS). My gaming machine doesn't need Windows as I do nothing on it other than play games (work sucks!).
More realistically, you can get a console that sort of does what the Xbox and PS do, only not quite as well, at a 50% markup, but with more hipsters in the advertising and a shiny Apple sticker.
Is this a surprise?
I said when they were announced that they wouldn't do well. It was so obvious. They don't cater to PC enthusiasts or console gamers, and everybody inbetween could get equal or better for less .
Then add in linux as the OS and it pretty much seals it fate.
I said when they were announced that they wouldn't do well. It was so obvious. They don't cater to PC enthusiasts or console gamers, and everybody inbetween could get equal or better for less .
Then add in linux as the OS and it pretty much seals it fate.
Maybe they should just maintain Steam OS if they want to keep the initiative going? Or even include recommended hardware builds with driver support for PC enthusiasts to build their own?
I'm not sure what other benefits or advantages the Steam Machine would offer. Is it generally more stable or easier to push updates?
I'm not sure what other benefits or advantages the Steam Machine would offer. Is it generally more stable or easier to push updates?
Unimaginative products usually don't do that well. If price, games, and features don't add up to compel someone to chose one product over another then you've got no chance.
I like the quirks of something like the Panasonic 3DO and the all in one nature of the Xbox One but that approach will never win over the hearts of consumers when there are better options. Steam machine was a wash from day one.
I like the quirks of something like the Panasonic 3DO and the all in one nature of the Xbox One but that approach will never win over the hearts of consumers when there are better options. Steam machine was a wash from day one.
https://wccftech.com/samsung-valve-s10-range-steam-streaming/
Yesterday featured Galaxy Unpacked where Samsung unveiled the brand new Galaxy Fold, a device that I’m already planning to sell one of my kidneys for. Joining the fold comes the S10 range of devices, where we have already covered our hands-on with the S10e and with even more coverage to come.
One huge piece of news comes from word-of-mouth at the event and, while the mouth(s) in question can be trusted as being in the know, the information is unofficial and unconfirmed as of the time of writing. What is this information? As the title says, a partnership between Samsung and Valve to bring Steam to the new S10 range of devices.
Yesterday featured Galaxy Unpacked where Samsung unveiled the brand new Galaxy Fold, a device that I’m already planning to sell one of my kidneys for. Joining the fold comes the S10 range of devices, where we have already covered our hands-on with the S10e and with even more coverage to come.
One huge piece of news comes from word-of-mouth at the event and, while the mouth(s) in question can be trusted as being in the know, the information is unofficial and unconfirmed as of the time of writing. What is this information? As the title says, a partnership between Samsung and Valve to bring Steam to the new S10 range of devices.