Windows 11 - Free Update, But Is Your PC Worthy?

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I'm currently on Linux Mint which has come a long way with Driver support.

There is also Steam on Linux, but games tend to be crashy on it.
A buddy of mine uses Mint (online friend). I have tried Ubuntu on a USB key through Windows. At the time (not sure if it changed), it seemed very reliable, NOT bloated at all, fast and user friendly.
 

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Apparently I need to buy a TPM 2.0 module.

Can't find one for sale at my usual computer places.

Surely they will become more commonly available soon?
 

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Scratch that, I was able to turn on TPM 2.0 through BIOS.

Now I meet the requirements :)

s*** ain't coming out until 2022 anyway though.
 
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Apparently my i9 9900KF 5.0ghz cpu, 2TB Samsung Evo Plus NVME SSD, 32GB Patriot Viper and RTX3080 isn't eligible... 😆

It's probably this TPM 2.0 thing. Look it up. edit: pretty sure I have the same CPU, Z370 mb, 1070ti. You should be good when you figure out the TPM thing in your BIOS.
 
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My fiancee's PC not supported 😔

Apparently only Intel core 8000 series and above are supported for Win 11. She has a 6800k.
 

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I suspect they'll back off.

I love Microsoft, but holy crap their PR department either doesn't even exist, or doesn't think it through.

Personally, selfishly, I hope they stick with it because apparently my PC is good. But they'll probably lighten up on the requirements just like.... oh digital only Xbox One, remember how that went? They did a 180 so fast, or Kinect....bye bye. Etc etc. MS always caves and gives up on everything. But their OS is obviously their bread and butter so maybe they'll come out with a Windows 11 "enterprise" version that is very strict, and a Windows 11 "home" edition for the general user.

That's my guess anyway.
 
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Why are you giving this clicks? Haha.

Imagine having to have internet and a Microsoft account to use Windows......

"I have to have internet access? WTF?"

Then you just go to bed.

Internet I don't mind but forcing to have a microsoft account is annoying. I won't even use it for anything else.
 

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I suspect they'll back off.

I love Microsoft, but holy crap their PR department either doesn't even exist, or doesn't think it through.

Personally, selfishly, I hope they stick with it because apparently my PC is good. But they'll probably lighten up on the requirements just like.... oh digital only Xbox One, remember how that went? They did a 180 so fast, or Kinect....bye bye. Etc etc. MS always caves and gives up on everything. But their OS is obviously their bread and butter so maybe they'll come out with a Windows 11 "enterprise" version that is very strict, and a Windows 11 "home" edition for the general user.

That's my guess anyway.

Win10 is still going to be supported until at least Oct 2025. That's 4+ more years. It isn't like they are expecting everyone to jump on an upgrade by this fall.

They obviously don't expect every single person to jump on day 1. Any hardware that is 3-4 years old now is going to get replaced by the time the time comes.
 

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High disagree here. I used a Mac exclusively up until about 2014, and its functionality isn't close to Windows still. Glad to be on Windows personally.
I prefer the UI on the Mac, and my reliability experience. I do know that the MacOS is NO WHERE near as flexible and customizable as Windows. I also know that the Mac has like 1/1000th of the available apps. When I was a Microsoft MVP, I towed the company line HARD. Especially Office. But that all ended after I started using Mac.

At work I am using Microsoft Windows 10 on my two workstations. It's fine.
 

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If people want to use Mac stuff at home, that's fine (horribly over-priced and can run way less stuff, but whatever). Bring it into the business world though and we're still going to laugh at you. Mac is still a nightmare to support in large quantities. For Windows, I have a bunch of built in tools to patch and maintain all my systems. For Mac? I gotta chase down each and every one.

I also love how they just decide to stop supporting any regular USB, knowing that tons of devices are still using it. Yet MS is still somehow the "evil empire".
 
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You said you would be buying Xbox games for PC that appeal to you. Some MS games require a Microsoft Account, even when purchased on Steam.

Wow that is really annoying now that you pointed this out.
 

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If people want to use Mac stuff at home, that's fine (horribly over-priced and can run way less stuff, but whatever). Bring it into the business world though and we're still going to laugh at you. Mac is still a nightmare to support in large quantities. For Windows, I have a bunch of built in tools to patch and maintain all my systems. For Mac? I gotta chase down each and every one.

I also love how they just decide to stop supporting any regular USB, knowing that tons of devices are still using it. Yet MS is still somehow the "evil empire".
The add below seems to agree…

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Win10 is still going to be supported until at least Oct 2025. That's 4+ more years. It isn't like they are expecting everyone to jump on an upgrade by this fall.

They obviously don't expect every single person to jump on day 1. Any hardware that is 3-4 years old now is going to get replaced by the time the time comes.

Well, my s*** is already obsolete and I'm good to go.

And I plan on getting 10 years out of my last build, and thankfully I will.

Anyway, I'd imagine MS is going to back off a bit like I said. It's what they do, piss off a ton of people then immediately back track. AKA they love to shoot themselves in the foot then apologize for it.
 
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Yeah, they'll open up the hardware eventually. They probably don't want everyone jumping in on day 1.
 
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I'm currently on Linux Mint which has come a long way with Driver support.

There is also Steam on Linux, but games tend to be crashy on it.

Have you tried Lutris? I don't really game on Linux, but there was a DXVK mod for Fallout 4 that made my game stability rock solid. The DXVK was designed for playing the game on Linux so I would assume that it would be just as stable on Linux Mint.

I prefer the UI on the Mac, and my reliability experience. I do know that the MacOS is NO WHERE near as flexible and customizable as Windows. I also know that the Mac has like 1/1000th of the available apps. When I was a Microsoft MVP, I towed the company line HARD. Especially Office. But that all ended after I started using Mac.

At work I am using Microsoft Windows 10 on my two workstations. It's fine.

Lol, I spent so much time trying to get Linux distros to look like MAC OS. I got it close enough, but I eventually ended up having to switch the PC back to Windows anyway. Basically I had the PC setup as a media center with Emby installed and it would schedule, download, and move files to the appropriate folder automatically but I couldn't do that with Linux.

Now I just turn on Emby and everything is there. It sounds silly now that I think about it because I would literally spend just 10-minute downloading tv shows etc. etc.. everyday, but it's all automated now.
 
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Windows sucks. Go Mac.

Go get stuck in a closed ecosystem and pay a premium for every little thing?

Nah, sorry not trying to start anything but I'm good with my Windows desktop and Android phone, they get along great and I can drag and drop and mess with the file structure to my liking, I really don't feel like I'm missing out on anything even though Mac/iPhone are beautiful products if you got the cash and don't mind being imprisoned in their ecosystem.
 
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