Xbox And Microsoft Rank More Valuable Than Nintendo And Sony

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https://www.ft.com/content/3a3419f4-78b1-11e9-be7d-6d846537acab


4th MS

87th Xbox


https://gamerant.com/xbox-brand-more-valuable-sony-nintendo/


On this year’s list, Xbox was ranked as the 87th most-valuable brand in the world. It’s the only strictly-gaming brand on the list, though Microsoft itself has been named the fourth most-valuable brand. The top 10 also includes Amazon (which took the top spot), Apple, Google, and Tencent, all of which are at least somewhat involved in the gaming industry.
 

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The BrandZ rankings of the world’s most valuable brands have been compiled by WPP’s research arm Kantar since 2006. BrandZ calculates the value that brand contributes to businesses by combining financial and market data with surveys of nearly 4m consumers in 51 countries on their views about brands.
 

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But the people who assured me that the next XBox is going to use Vega and software raytracing also assured me that Sony made more money just on PS Plus subscriptions than Xbox' entire revenue. Clearly, this article is erroneous fake news.
 

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But the people who assured me that the next XBox is going to use Vega and software raytracing also assured me that Sony made more money just on PS Plus subscriptions than Xbox' entire revenue. Clearly, this article is erroneous fake news.
Did somdbody really say that about PS subscriptions? Cause lol.
 

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It will be a combination of things...live subs, Azure, Gamepass, Xbox Live revenu outside subs. It isn't all that surprising really, not sure why people assume that because hardware numbers were not as good that they make less than others.
 

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No kidding.
 

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Did somdbody really say that about PS subscriptions? Cause lol.
Yeah, it was probably some comments on some article on eurogamer or polygon or some such, because I think it's one of those things that's stupid enough that when I read it I would have replied even while on my phone if it had been here.
 

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It will be a combination of things...live subs, Azure, Gamepass, Xbox Live revenu outside subs. It isn't all that surprising really, not sure why people assume that because hardware numbers were not as good that they make less than others.
Becauseu Sony is ahead in almost every category games sales, hardware sales, PSN subs, PS Now subs etc...
 

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Becauseu Sony is ahead in almost every category games sales, hardware sales, PSN subs, PS Now subs etc...
PS Now subs, Sony confirmed to be in the 700k range. Spencer confirmed that Game Pass is in the millions.

https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/541809-number-of-playstation-now-subscribers

The number of PlayStation Now subscribers was announced by Sony in a recent corporate strategy meeting. The game-streaming service for the PlayStation ecosystem has hit 700,000 subscribers as of March 2019.
Read more at https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/541809-number-of-playstation-now-subscribers#AUAQ1IdWraIAE20b.99

E3 2019: Phil Spencer: Xbox Game Pass has millions and millions of subscribers.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...be-nice-to-buy-a-japanese-studio-phil-spencer

MS hasn't stated how many subs are GOLD for XBL to compare to PS Plus.
 

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2019 and actually subbing to the scam of psnow

it's like we fought ww2 for nothing
 

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Did somdbody really say that about PS subscriptions? Cause lol.
Last year PSN (subs and digital game purchases) brought in more money than the entire xbox division did, it also brought in more than Nintendo made for the entire year, it even made more money than Sony did during the PS2 generation. It helps when you have 90 million active users on your network, people who say console sales don't matter are full of it.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/0...-high-in-2018-topped-nintendo-and-xbox-totals

The analyst noted PSN's $12.5 billion is "higher than Nintendo's total revenue for 2018." Sony's network also beat out Microsoft's gaming division last year, which generated $11.5 billion, according to Ahmad.
 
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Last year PSN (subs and digital game purchases) brought in more money than the entire xbox division did, it also brought in more than Nintendo made for the entire year, it even made more money than Sony did during the PS2 generation. It helps when you have 90 million active users on your network, people who say console sales don't matter are full of it.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/0...-high-in-2018-topped-nintendo-and-xbox-totals
Well, yeah, when you include the game sales too, Sony making the most money is no surprise. People spinning that as the PSN or PS plus or now beating MS or Nintendo entire revenue are the plastic warriorz.
 

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Well, yeah, when you include the game sales too, Sony making the most money is no surprise. People spinning that as the PSN or PS plus or now beating MS or Nintendo entire revenue are the plastic warriorz.
It's reported as PSN though, digital game sales are part of PSN store which is part of PSN so that's not spin it's just the truth, if they say specifically PS+ subscriptions only that's when it's wrong. Also again that's PSN on it's own (yes including the store) made more than MS made off of gold, game pass, digital game sales, physical game sales and console sales combined, same goes for Nintendo. Yeah it's not a surprise that they made the most money with their installed base being so much bigger than the competition but the fact that they made a billion more than MS did without including physical sales of any kind (game, console, controllers etc) it's pretty impressive.
 
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Are they? Prove it. Just asuming so doesn't make it so.
PSN 90+ mill users

Multiplat games sale best on PS4

The Ps4 100+ mill

PsVR is #1 selling headset

They own Bluray inside Xbox

Spider-Man 10+ mill
Uncharted 4 14+ mill
GoW 12+ mill
HZD 10+ mill
GT Sport 8+ mill
TLOU remaster 16+ mill
 

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I can see MSFT as a company being more valuable than Sony since Sony's businesses outside playstation are struggling but I would have thought Playstation division would be more valuable than Xbox. Quite surprising given how Sony has spanked everyone else this generation with better hardware and even better games.
 

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It's reported as PSN though, digital game sales are part of PSN store which is part of PSN so that's not spin it's just the truth, if they say specifically PS+ subscriptions only that's when it's wrong. Also again that's PSN on it's own (yes including the store) made more than MS made off of gold, game pass, digital game sales, physical game sales and console sales combined, same goes for Nintendo. Yeah it's not a surprise that they made the most money with their installed base being so much bigger than the competition but the fact that they made a billion more than MS did without including physical sales of any kind (game, console, controllers etc) it's pretty impressive.
I'm pretty sure that's what was said, which is what I was thinking was stupid. I'm not at all surprised that the money Sony makes digitally is more than the money MS or Nintendo makes digitally plus their cut of physical sales. Personally, I hope they all make tens of billions each year as long as they keep on plowing that money back into making more and better games and consoles. :bow:
 

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PSN 90+ mill users

Multiplat games sale best on PS4

The Ps4 100+ mill

PsVR is #1 selling headset

They own Bluray inside Xbox

Spider-Man 10+ mill
Uncharted 4 14+ mill
GoW 12+ mill
HZD 10+ mill
GT Sport 8+ mill
TLOU remaster 16+ mill
And what are the official xbolx numbers? See....


To be honest with you I am half f***inhg with you. Problem is you are basing it only on numbers sold. The ranking is also contributing other factors. Plus, it says," contributes to businesses" not just Xbox.
 

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And what are the official xbolx numbers? See....


To be honest with you I am half f***inhg with you. Problem is you are basing it only on numbers sold. The ranking is also contributing other factors. Plus, it says," contributes to businesses" not just Xbox.
The only way I see Xbox ahead of PlayStation is outside of gaming. They got destroyed by Sony this generation.
 

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It can't be accurate, at least not based on the money they bring into the company. Maybe they are counting the azure stuff as part of the gaming platform?
 

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The only way I see Xbox ahead of PlayStation is outside of gaming. They got destroyed by Sony this generation.
In terms of pure sales and marketshare absolutely....that isn't what this list is, though.
 

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Maybe Sony should just spin-off PlayStation, it worked for Ferrari /s ;)
 

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Microsoft could buy Sony lol