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i think it depends on who pulls the trigger first... I still feel the Scarlett shouldn’t exist.

If MS can put out the one x and reduce the price by two hundred in, what, under two years than they could easily coupe with a hundred dollar loss the first year with only the series x on the market.
 
i think it depends on who pulls the trigger first... I still feel the Scarlett shouldn’t exist.

If MS can put out the one x and reduce the price by two hundred in, what, under two years than they could easily coupe with a hundred dollar loss the first year with only the series x on the market.

I don’t know if we’ve ever gotten exact sales numbers for the S and the X, but I’m assuming both must be selling well enough that they chose to take this approach based off of sales alone.
 
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i think it depends on who pulls the trigger first... I still feel the Scarlett shouldn’t exist.

If MS can put out the one x and reduce the price by two hundred in, what, under two years than they could easily coupe with a hundred dollar loss the first year with only the series x on the market.

Why do you think the Scarlett shouldn't exist?
 
Why do you think the Scarlett shouldn't exist?

my bad, meant Lockhart...that’s the cheaper weaker one right? See I’m already erasing from the existence in my mind.

but really it for shear simplicity and from a logistical stand point of Microsoft's business view. I believe it would cost them more to make an additional piece of hardware then taking a loss with the series x.

I know there’s many graphics card manufacturers who may different tier GPUs and car manufacturers make a variety spec cars because some people just want a mustang and not the v8. But why not go the Tesla route and have everything built in but just disabled and if the owner wants just pay a lil extra at any point of ownership for the upgrade/access. I know hackers may find a way to access it but if they do what Apple does and blocks it server side then I really don’t know where I’m going with this any more lol

as an artist I’ve just been brought up with the whole K.I.S.S., keep it simple stupid train of thought. I could be totally wrong but that’s my stance atm until something makes more sense
 
my bad, meant Lockhart...that’s the cheaper weaker one right? See I’m already erasing from the existence in my mind.

but really it for shear simplicity and from a logistical stand point of Microsoft's business view. I believe it would cost them more to make an additional piece of hardware then taking a loss with the series x.

I know there’s many graphics card manufacturers who may different tier GPUs and car manufacturers make a variety spec cars because some people just want a mustang and not the v8. But why not go the Tesla route and have everything built in but just disabled and if the owner wants just pay a lil extra at any point of ownership for the upgrade/access. I know hackers may find a way to access it but if they do what Apple does and blocks it server side then I really don’t know where I’m going with this any more lol

as an artist I’ve just been brought up with the whole K.I.S.S., keep it simple stupid train of thought. I could be totally wrong but that’s my stance atm until something makes more sense


I know this sounds stupid, but the majority of TV's out there in homes are still 1080p TV's. If the majority of TV's out there are 1080p, why would those users go out and buy a 500+ machine that is truly meant to push 4K resolutions? A cheaper alternative for people who, A) Don't want to spend 500 dollars, and B) don't have a 4K TV, I think it's a good idea for the consumer.
 
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Microsoft release the full specs which confirms most of the rumored specs

 
Microsoft release the full specs which confirms most of the rumored specs

Well there you go
 
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Again, sounds like a beast of a console and expensive. Going to be at least $499.99
 
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Series X going to be a beast. Was sceptical of the 12 tf tbh but now it’s confirmed, just wow. If this is $499 that’s a hell of a lot of power for the money.
 
12 TF's confirmed. So it's actually more than twice as powerful as Xbox One X if you take Navi improvements into account, they literally sold themselves short with that "twice as powerful as X" statement.

Also, RDNA2 arch confirmed.

If they can offer that console for 499.99 it will be a very nice deal.
 
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What You Can Expect From the Next Generation of Gaming
by Phil Spencer, Head of Xbox • Feb 24, 2020 @ 6:00am
Xbox Series X Hero image


The future of gaming has never been more inspiring. Creativity in games is flourishing. New services empower you to discover more games—and bring you closer to the games and creators and streamers you love. The cloud creates a massive opportunity to stream console-quality games and play with the people you want, wherever you want. And for many of us, nothing is more inspiring than the dawn of a new console generation.
We know you expect the next generation of consoles to set new standards in graphical power and processing speed, converging together in games that look incredible and feel alive. This will be defined by worlds that are visually astounding and immediately immersive, with innovative leaps in CPU, GPU and storage technology to give you frictionless access to new stories and new creators constantly.
We’ve been using Xbox Series X in our internal Takehome program and are energized by the feedback we’ve been receiving. At Xbox we value being open and transparent with you, and I’m proud to be able to share details about some of the technologies we are enabling for the next generation, and look forward to boldly sharing more as we head towards E3.
Xbox Series X

A superior balance of power and speed
Compared to the previous generation, Xbox Series X represents a superior balance of power and speed in console design, advancing on all technological fronts to delivering amazing, dynamic, living worlds and minimize any aspects that can take you out of the experience. Our job at Team Xbox is to give teams the tools they need to achieve their ambitions and tap into the console’s power with efficiency, a few of which we’re detailing today. Raw power is just part of the story:
  • Next Generation Custom Processor: Xbox Series X is our most powerful console ever powered by our custom designed processor leveraging AMD’s latest Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures. Delivering four times the processing power of an Xbox One and enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X and more than eight times the original Xbox One. Xbox Series X delivers a true generational leap in processing and graphics power with cutting edge techniques resulting in higher framerates, larger, more sophisticated game worlds, and an immersive experience unlike anything seen in console gaming.
  • Variable Rate Shading (VRS): Our patented form of VRS empowers developers to more efficiently utilize the full power of the Xbox Series X. Rather than spending GPU cycles uniformly to every single pixel on the screen, they can prioritize individual effects on specific game characters or important environmental objects. This technique results in more stable frame rates and higher resolution, with no impact on the final image quality.
  • Hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing: You can expect more dynamic and realistic environments powered by hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing – a first for console gaming. This means true-to-life lighting, accurate reflections and realistic acoustics in real time as you explore the game world.
Immersion in an instant
The next console generation will be defined by more playing and less waiting. And when play begins, we know many gamers demand ultra-low latency to be as immersed and precise as possible. To this end, the team analyzed every step between player and game, from controller to console to display, and asked how we could make it faster.
  • SSD Storage: With our next-generation SSD, nearly every aspect of playing games is improved. Game worlds are larger, more dynamic and load in a flash and fast travel is just that – fast.
  • Quick Resume: The new Quick Resume feature lets you continue multiple games from a suspended state almost instantly, returning you to where you were and what you were doing, without waiting through long loading screens.
  • Dynamic Latency Input (DLI): We’re optimizing latency in the player-to-console pipeline starting with our Xbox Wireless Controller, which leverages our high bandwidth, proprietary wireless communication protocol when connected to the console. With Dynamic Latency Input (DLI), a new feature which synchronizes input immediately with what is displayed, controls are even more precise and responsive.
  • HDMI 2.1 Innovation: We’ve partnered with the HDMI forum and TV manufacturers to enable the best gaming experience through features such as Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) and Variable Refresh Rate (VRR). ALLM allows Xbox One and Xbox Series X to automatically set the connected display to its lowest latency mode. VRR synchronizes the display’s refresh rate to the game’s frame rate, maintaining smooth visuals without tearing. Ensuring minimal lag and the most responsive gaming experience.
  • 120 fps Support: With support for up to 120 fps, Xbox Series X allows developers to exceed standard 60 fps output in favor of heightened realism or fast-paced action.
The next generation of game compatibility
The benefits of the next console generation extend in every direction, bringing greater visual fidelity and improved loading speeds to your existing gaming legacy, in addition to new games. We’re continuing our commitment to compatibility with Xbox Series X and investing in technology that makes game ownership easier across generations.
  • Four generations of gaming: Our commitment to compatibility means existing Xbox One games, including backward-compatible Xbox 360 and original Xbox games, look and play better than ever before. Your favorite games, including titles in Xbox Game Pass, benefit from steadier framerates, faster load times and improved resolution and visual fidelity – all with no developer work required. Your Xbox One gaming accessories also come forward with you.
  • Smart Delivery: This technology empowers you to buy a game once and know that – whether you are playing it on Xbox One or Xbox Series X – you are getting the right version of that game on whatever Xbox you’re playing on. We’re making the commitment to use Smart Delivery on all our exclusive Xbox Game Studios titles, including Halo Infinite, ensuring you only have to purchase a title once in order to play the best available version for whichever Xbox console they choose to play on. This technology is available for all developers and publishers, and they can choose to use it for titles that will be release on Xbox One first and come to the Xbox Series X later.
  • Xbox Game Pass: In addition to games from across four generations of consoles, our leading game subscription service, Xbox Game Pass, will continue to have our first party games, like Halo Infinite, included at their launch. We look forward to millions of you experiencing the Xbox Game Pass portfolio and immersing yourselves in a deep library of high-quality games, playing those you love now and also discovering your next great adventure.
A generation with players at the center
Xbox Series X is our fastest, most powerful console ever, designed for a console generation that has you at its center. This means a high-fidelity gaming experience enclosed in a quiet and bold design, with the ability to discover thousands of games across four generations, all with more playing and less waiting.
Whether it’s empowering amazing creators at our 15 Xbox Game Studios, fueling game discovery with Xbox Game Pass, or expanding what and where you can play with Project xCloud, Team Xbox stands for frictionless pathways between players and the best experiences our remarkable art form has to offer. Xbox Series X represents that same commitment for players who want immediate immersion in games that also look and feel better than ever.
We can’t wait to share more details about the new Xbox with you in the coming months.
 
Guessing AMD is getting ready to announce their full RDNA features soon; honestly that's been the weirdest part in all of this, we still don't know HOW RDNA 2 performs in real world or how their actual RayTracing tech works.
 
I’m happy to finally see MS take this more aggressive/excited approach.

Get all the HW out of the way now, let people get excited and discuss it, and then drop a ton of games at E3.

With that HW, I think Halo alone is going to be something extra special this time.
 
What's the general consensus for best place to preorder a console when preorders are up? I usually stick with Amazon, but that's always dicey. I've heard the horror stories of Amazon (I didn't get my X1 until almost 8pm on launch "day"). Still though, I have a little more faith in Amazon over box stores like Best Buy or Gamestop.
 
What's the general consensus for best place to preorder a console when preorders are up? I usually stick with Amazon, but that's always dicey. I've heard the horror stories of Amazon (I didn't get my X1 until almost 8pm on launch "day"). Still though, I have a little more faith in Amazon over box stores like Best Buy or Gamestop.
Considering the dumpster fire that GS is becoming, I’d stay away from there. Local Target or Walmarts are usually pretty good if you can preorder.
 
What's the general consensus for best place to preorder a console when preorders are up? I usually stick with Amazon, but that's always dicey. I've heard the horror stories of Amazon (I didn't get my X1 until almost 8pm on launch "day"). Still though, I have a little more faith in Amazon over box stores like Best Buy or Gamestop.
Wherever you can..
If you are trading up go to GameStop.

I likely am doing Bestbuy or Amazon.
 
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Also, if it is $499 they’d definitely be taking a significant loss, right?

Anyone think they’ll go higher?
 
What You Can Expect From the Next Generation of Gaming
by Phil Spencer, Head of Xbox • Feb 24, 2020 @ 6:00am
Xbox Series X Hero image


The future of gaming has never been more inspiring. Creativity in games is flourishing. New services empower you to discover more games—and bring you closer to the games and creators and streamers you love. The cloud creates a massive opportunity to stream console-quality games and play with the people you want, wherever you want. And for many of us, nothing is more inspiring than the dawn of a new console generation.
We know you expect the next generation of consoles to set new standards in graphical power and processing speed, converging together in games that look incredible and feel alive. This will be defined by worlds that are visually astounding and immediately immersive, with innovative leaps in CPU, GPU and storage technology to give you frictionless access to new stories and new creators constantly.
We’ve been using Xbox Series X in our internal Takehome program and are energized by the feedback we’ve been receiving. At Xbox we value being open and transparent with you, and I’m proud to be able to share details about some of the technologies we are enabling for the next generation, and look forward to boldly sharing more as we head towards E3.
Xbox Series X

A superior balance of power and speed
Compared to the previous generation, Xbox Series X represents a superior balance of power and speed in console design, advancing on all technological fronts to delivering amazing, dynamic, living worlds and minimize any aspects that can take you out of the experience. Our job at Team Xbox is to give teams the tools they need to achieve their ambitions and tap into the console’s power with efficiency, a few of which we’re detailing today. Raw power is just part of the story:
  • Next Generation Custom Processor: Xbox Series X is our most powerful console ever powered by our custom designed processor leveraging AMD’s latest Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures. Delivering four times the processing power of an Xbox One and enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X and more than eight times the original Xbox One. Xbox Series X delivers a true generational leap in processing and graphics power with cutting edge techniques resulting in higher framerates, larger, more sophisticated game worlds, and an immersive experience unlike anything seen in console gaming.
  • Variable Rate Shading (VRS): Our patented form of VRS empowers developers to more efficiently utilize the full power of the Xbox Series X. Rather than spending GPU cycles uniformly to every single pixel on the screen, they can prioritize individual effects on specific game characters or important environmental objects. This technique results in more stable frame rates and higher resolution, with no impact on the final image quality.
  • Hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing: You can expect more dynamic and realistic environments powered by hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing – a first for console gaming. This means true-to-life lighting, accurate reflections and realistic acoustics in real time as you explore the game world.
Immersion in an instant
The next console generation will be defined by more playing and less waiting. And when play begins, we know many gamers demand ultra-low latency to be as immersed and precise as possible. To this end, the team analyzed every step between player and game, from controller to console to display, and asked how we could make it faster.
  • SSD Storage: With our next-generation SSD, nearly every aspect of playing games is improved. Game worlds are larger, more dynamic and load in a flash and fast travel is just that – fast.
  • Quick Resume: The new Quick Resume feature lets you continue multiple games from a suspended state almost instantly, returning you to where you were and what you were doing, without waiting through long loading screens.
  • Dynamic Latency Input (DLI): We’re optimizing latency in the player-to-console pipeline starting with our Xbox Wireless Controller, which leverages our high bandwidth, proprietary wireless communication protocol when connected to the console. With Dynamic Latency Input (DLI), a new feature which synchronizes input immediately with what is displayed, controls are even more precise and responsive.
  • HDMI 2.1 Innovation: We’ve partnered with the HDMI forum and TV manufacturers to enable the best gaming experience through features such as Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) and Variable Refresh Rate (VRR). ALLM allows Xbox One and Xbox Series X to automatically set the connected display to its lowest latency mode. VRR synchronizes the display’s refresh rate to the game’s frame rate, maintaining smooth visuals without tearing. Ensuring minimal lag and the most responsive gaming experience.
  • 120 fps Support: With support for up to 120 fps, Xbox Series X allows developers to exceed standard 60 fps output in favor of heightened realism or fast-paced action.
The next generation of game compatibility
The benefits of the next console generation extend in every direction, bringing greater visual fidelity and improved loading speeds to your existing gaming legacy, in addition to new games. We’re continuing our commitment to compatibility with Xbox Series X and investing in technology that makes game ownership easier across generations.
  • Four generations of gaming: Our commitment to compatibility means existing Xbox One games, including backward-compatible Xbox 360 and original Xbox games, look and play better than ever before. Your favorite games, including titles in Xbox Game Pass, benefit from steadier framerates, faster load times and improved resolution and visual fidelity – all with no developer work required. Your Xbox One gaming accessories also come forward with you.
  • Smart Delivery: This technology empowers you to buy a game once and know that – whether you are playing it on Xbox One or Xbox Series X – you are getting the right version of that game on whatever Xbox you’re playing on. We’re making the commitment to use Smart Delivery on all our exclusive Xbox Game Studios titles, including Halo Infinite, ensuring you only have to purchase a title once in order to play the best available version for whichever Xbox console they choose to play on. This technology is available for all developers and publishers, and they can choose to use it for titles that will be release on Xbox One first and come to the Xbox Series X later.
  • Xbox Game Pass: In addition to games from across four generations of consoles, our leading game subscription service, Xbox Game Pass, will continue to have our first party games, like Halo Infinite, included at their launch. We look forward to millions of you experiencing the Xbox Game Pass portfolio and immersing yourselves in a deep library of high-quality games, playing those you love now and also discovering your next great adventure.
A generation with players at the center
Xbox Series X is our fastest, most powerful console ever, designed for a console generation that has you at its center. This means a high-fidelity gaming experience enclosed in a quiet and bold design, with the ability to discover thousands of games across four generations, all with more playing and less waiting.
Whether it’s empowering amazing creators at our 15 Xbox Game Studios, fueling game discovery with Xbox Game Pass, or expanding what and where you can play with Project xCloud, Team Xbox stands for frictionless pathways between players and the best experiences our remarkable art form has to offer. Xbox Series X represents that same commitment for players who want immediate immersion in games that also look and feel better than ever.
We can’t wait to share more details about the new Xbox with you in the coming months.
EDIT: NVM

f*** YEAH 12TFS! BAAAAAABY!
 
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