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My engrish skills isn't good enough to comprehend your post.
If you use math, it adds up perfectly lol
There was ambiguity because he said twice the power. He never said 12. There was room to interpret that as around 9TF of performance because TF on Zen2/RDNA would be roughly equivalent to 12 TF on the older architecture that the Xbox One was built on. Or something like that. It's nice to get confirmation that it's 12 Zen2/RDNA TF.
 
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2X the X isn't much more powerful.
2X the X RDNA 2 is about 8 (and change) TF's.
12 TF's of RDNA 2.0 is about 3-5 x the X's 6TF's.
There was ambiguity because he said twice the power. He never said 12. There was room to interpret that as around 9TF of performance because TF on Zen2/RDNA would be roughly equivalent to 12 TF on the older architecture that the Xbox One was built on. Or something like that. It's nice to get confirmation that it's 12 Zen2/RDNA TF.
So, enlighten me, what exactly did Phil mean?
 
So, enlighten me, what exactly did Phil mean?
Given PR speak, we just didn't know for sure what he meant. There was room for interpretation because he didn't use hard numbers. He said Twice, which is actually understated from what we think we know. I could have been a true statement but 9TF would sound weak to the lamen. Now we know that it's actually 12 TF. That is significant.
 
What's the general consensus for best place to preorder a console when preorders are up? I usually stick with Amazon, but that's always dicey. I've heard the horror stories of Amazon (I didn't get my X1 until almost 8pm on launch "day"). Still though, I have a little more faith in Amazon over box stores like Best Buy or Gamestop.

Stay away from Gamestop. I feel like this may be their last hurrah so to speak. Amazon is ok, but I think all of us have horror stories of them f***ing something up. Best Buy is hit or miss but infinitely more reliable than Gamestop.
 
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Stay away from Gamestop. I feel like this may be their last hurrah so to speak. Amazon is ok, but I think all of us have horror stories of the f***ing something up. Best Buy is hit or miss but infinitely more reliable than Gamestop.

Yeah I kind of avoid Gamestop on principle. I wouldn't trust Walmart either. Target was mentioned which isn't bad. I'm not sure Best Buy will still exist come fall. I go in there and the place is like a ghost town.

I may just stick with Amazon. Although they completely screwed up my Elite 2 controller pre-order which I made minutes after the announcement at E3.
 
Stay away from Gamestop. I feel like this may be their last hurrah so to speak. Amazon is ok, but I think all of us have horror stories of the f***ing something up. Best Buy is hit or miss but infinitely more reliable than Gamestop.
I usually buy mine at Game Stop. Never had any issues, but I always pre-order way ahead of time. That said, I may just go with Best Buy this time. I'm not even messing around with internet purchasing. I want the midnight release.
 
Yeah I kind of avoid Gamestop on principle. I wouldn't trust Walmart either. Target was mentioned which isn't bad. I'm not sure Best Buy will still exist come fall. I go in there and the place is like a ghost town.

I may just stick with Amazon. Although they completely screwed up my Elite 2 controller pre-order which I made minutes after the announcement at E3.

Amazon messed up ALOT of my Nintendo orders and my God of War order. Heaven help them if they mess up my Cyberpunk 2077 Collector edition order. surpisingly Best Buy has never done me wrong. I'm just to lazy to drive to the store most times.
 
Stay away from Gamestop. I feel like this may be their last hurrah so to speak. Amazon is ok, but I think all of us have horror stories of them f***ing something up. Best Buy is hit or miss but infinitely more reliable than Gamestop.
If you trade up it's a good option though.
 
Amazon messed up ALOT of my Nintendo orders and my God of War order. Heaven help them if they mess up my Cyberpunk 2077 Collector edition order. surpisingly Best Buy has never done me wrong. I'm just to lazy to drive to the store most times.
Amazon has messed the Xbox One and the One X for me. For the Xbox One they missed the delivery date by three days I think? They gave me around $200 in gift cards if memory serves?
 
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Yeah I kind of avoid Gamestop on principle. I wouldn't trust Walmart either. Target was mentioned which isn't bad. I'm not sure Best Buy will still exist come fall. I go in there and the place is like a ghost town.

I may just stick with Amazon. Although they completely screwed up my Elite 2 controller pre-order which I made minutes after the announcement at E3.
I Order my console from Microsoft Store online
 
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