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I'm worried about that proprietary extra storage solution, everything else is great.

Pricing is going to be the scary part.

Luckily though you can store/shuffle stuff on regular HDD/SSD via external, and those will actually be moving at their full speed this time around instead of being gimped like they are on current Xbox One/Xbox One X. With those speeds it should be a lot more manageable and if current Xbox One functionality is anything to go by, you should be able to start playing a game once a small percentage transfers and I don't think massive bandwidth throttling when you're playing a game will be an issue like it is on Xbox One/Xbox One X either, the i/o seems to be more than enough to cover the internal NVMe SSD speed.
 
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Pricing is going to be the scary part.

Luckily though you can store/shuffle stuff on regular HDD/SSD via external, and those will actually be moving at their full speed this time around instead of being gimped like they are on current Xbox One/Xbox One X. With those speeds it should be a lot more manageable and if current Xbox One functionality is anything to go by, you should be able to start playing a game once a small percentage transfers and I don't think massive bandwidth throttling when you're playing a game will be an issue like it is on Xbox One/Xbox One X either, the i/o seems to be more than enough to cover the internal NVMe SSD speed.
So I'm confused about the storage. You can have external storage but have to move the games to internal if you want to play them?
 
So I'm confused about the storage. You can have external storage but have to move the games to internal if you want to play them?
Only New gen would be like that because they would be built around use of the SSD. Old Gen games could be played from the regular external, but you wouldn't get the increased loading or instant switching benefits.
 
Only New gen would be like that because they would be built around use of the SSD. Old Gen games could be played from the regular external, but you wouldn't get the increased loading or instant switching benefits.
Oh. So my external now won't work for future games? And new games i could essentially download to the internal.
 
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Oh. So my external now won't work for future games? And new games i could essentially download to the internal.
Yeah, the next gen games expect a compatible SSD and can only run from those.
 
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Damn fine console. I'm excited about the CPU power.

Wondering if devs can substitute hardware based ray tracing for hardware based physics. When talking about the equivalent of 25 tflops to achieve similar results for ray tracing...it seems like that same hardware acceleration should be applicable towards physics....but they didn't mention it so maybe not.

The Direct ML stuff is what everyone should keep an eye on. I think it's next gen secret sauce. Not that Sony won't have a version of it....just that it's going to result in exciting efficiencies and techniques from devs to both upgrade cross gen games and eventually do innovative things once they begin to focus on next gen only games. With Microsoft's backward compat team, I'm expecting them to leverage this for cross gen games. They can use it to add next gen features to old games without devs having to do extra work.

The spec sheets really don't tell enough of the story.
 
Not sure I like the ideas of texture and grip on the triggers. I feel like if you are pulling the trigger a lot, it's going to rub you finger a little raw. I've never once thought, "Ah! I just died because my finger slipped off the trigger! If only the put some texture on here, I would have won that match!"

I've owned guns with some texture on the trigger, but those were always vertical so your finger sliding up and down a bit didn't rub you wrong. This is just a universal texture.

I may have to spend some time with some sand paper to smooth out that texture when it launches.

Maybe Talon grips will make a cover for the trigger :D
 


Like I said, it would not be a desktop equivalent to Zen 2. I've never seen a clock speed as low as 3.6 GHz on my 3700X which is the lowest end 8 core 16 thread Zen 2 desktop part. The lowest I've seen with 100% load on synthetic benchmarks on 16 threads is 4.1 GHz. In a normal gaming load it was 4.3 GHz.
 
Oh. So my external now won't work for future games? And new games i could essentially download to the internal.

According to DF you can still park your new gen games on your existing external HD so you don’t necessarily have to keep downloading from Xbox Live, you can just copy across to the internal SSD when you need to juggle games on the SSD. Handy if internet data caps are an issue and I’m sure copying across is faster than downloading.
 
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According to DF you can still park your new gen games on your existing external HD so you don’t necessarily have to keep downloading from Xbox Live, you can just copy across to the internal SSD when you need to juggle games on the SSD. Handy if internet data caps are an issue and I’m sure copying across is faster than downloading.

That's what I plan on doing until they get bigger sizes than 1TB.
 
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