Zack Snyder Talks JL

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Better look at Steppenwolfs original design

 

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Well it won't go away with reports saying Snyder has been finishing the film and is ready to show it to WB
 

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Another cut scene. Fight inside Star labs

 

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Snyder has confirmed Ryan Choi wad originally in JL.

That's The atom for non comic book fans. Promotional shots showed a fight taking place in S.T.A.R labs
 

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Snyder has confirmed Ryan Choi wad originally in JL.

That's The atom for non comic book fans. Promotional shots showed a fight taking place in S.T.A.R labs
That's the version of ATOM that's in Injustice 2.
 

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Considering rumors are saying snyders cut was unwatchable, I'm thinking it's for the best. I do wish to have been able to watch MoS without the upper lip disaster though.
Also... can we blame snyder for how DC universe turned out?
 

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First reports said WB simply wanted it trimmed again despite the dc of BvS getting a much more positive response.


 

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Here we go....


The Original Version Of Justice League Wasn't Even Shot
For a good year and a half now, fans have been demanding that Warner Bros. "#ReleaseTheSnyderCut." Well, it doesn't sound as if that even exists because Snyder has revealed that the original version of the screenplay was never shot due to the response to Batman v Superman and Warner Bros.' concerns about moviegoers not embracing this darker take on the DCEU.

"The original Justice League that Chris [Terrio] and I wrote, we didn't even shoot," he confirmed. "The actual idea, the hard, hard idea, the scary idea, we never filmed because the studio was like 'That's crazy.'"

"When this movie came out, understand that Chris Terrio and I had finished the script to Justice League before Batman v Superman came out. Some people didn't like the movie. A vocal minority. So they said 'There's a lot of stuff we don't want you to do,' so we did a rewrite from that script." Snyder did, however, shed some light on what that would have entailed...

"Knightmare" Was Going To Be Explained

The "Knightmare" sequence in Batman v Superman was awesome, but it was also kind of baffling. It felt like a random addition and was never elaborated on, either in this movie or Justice League. "It's a long story," Snyder explains. "The truth is that, the Knightmare sequence in this movie was always my idea that all of that would eventually be explained."

Apparently, we would have then ended up in the "distant future, where Darkseid has taken over Earth...[and] a few members of the Justice League that had survived in that world...were fighting."

So, as most of expected, a future Justice League movie would indeed have taken place in the distant future with the heroes attempting to travel back in time and set things right. That sounds pretty similar to those rumours about Avengers: Endgame, though, right?

Superman Has Succumbed To The Anti-Life Equation

What led to "Knightmare" becoming a reality? Well, Darkseid had taken over the Earth and Superman had succumbed to the Anti-Life Equation, thereby explaining why he had turned evil in the flashforward sequence from Batman v Superman.

The Man of Steel's fall from grace would have led to Batman, the Flash, and a "broken" Cyborg attempting to send the Fastest Man Alive back in time to warn Bruce about what was to come, and that explains what the Caped Crusader saw in the Batcave when Barry Allen told him that "Lois is the key."

Snyder didn't elaborate on how all this would have worked beyond confirming that he and Terrio figured out a complicated time-travel formula, and while Warner Bros. was initially on board, "the details of how and why" the Justice League broke up made them nervous and had to be changed.

A Scrapped Post-Credits Scene

Snyder still hasn't seen Joss Whedon's version of Justice League, but he did comment on a scrapped post-credits scene which would have referenced the events of Batman v Superman and set the stage for what was going to come next.

"The Justice League teaser that wasn't in the movie, apparently, I guess, where Wonder Woman says, it's this line where Bruce says 'I was right here when Barry Allen came to me and he said Lois Lane is the key,' and she says 'She is, to Superman. Every heart has one.' And he goes, 'I think it's something more, something darker.'"

The director went on to say that the League had to prevent Lois' death because that would lead to Superman succumbing to the Anti-Life Equation. That explains why the Man of Steel blamed Bruce for her death, because it was going to be down to Batman to protect her and he would have taken her to the Batcave to do so.

The Death Of Lois Lane

Snyder didn't fully elaborate on how things would have played out (and it all sounds a little jumbled) but he confirmed that Darkseid was going to travel into the Batcave via Boom Tube, and he would have killed the intrepid Daily Planet reporter in order to break Superman and bring him to his side.

This is where time-travel once again comes into play, and things get even more confusing...

Time-Travel And A Battle In The Batcave

Finally, it's said that using the cosmic treadmill, the Flash would have been able to transport himself back in time to the same spot in space; this would mean the remaining League members would have had to choose carefully otherwise Barry Allen could have landed in the wrong location or even just the void of space.

Because Bruce remembered that visit from Barry, he allowed the half of Cyborg that remained to choose the window the Fastest Man Alive would be sent back to, which would help him to avoid arriving "too soon." The new window in time would have seen him show up in the Batcave moments before Darkseid so he could stop Lois' murder and help avoid Superman's turn to the dark side.

This all sounds tremendously convoluted, but also pretty damn awesome for the most part.

Steppenwolf Was Never Set To Appear In Justice League

As you may recall, there have been rumours that Steppenwolf was supposed to appear in Suicide Squad with Darkseid then taking on the lead role in Justice League as big bad. Snyder says he doesn't know anything about that, but confirmed that he worked with director David Ayer to add Batman and the Flash to that movie despite wanting to keep the two franchises as separate as possible.

What About The "Snyder Cut"?


Snyder clearly had some awesome and crazy ideas for Justice League (remember that Warner Bros. initially announced Justice League: Part One and Justice League: Part Two) and while a lot of scenes ended up on the cutting room floor due to those reshoots, it doesn't appear as if anything resembling what the filmmaker has described here was ever shot.

As a result, the only way we're going to see the "Snyder Cut" become a reality is if the director chooses to release the original screenplay, or if he puts it into graphic novel form for DC Comics.

While it's tricky to put much of what he's said into context, it's clear that he had some cool ideas and it's easy enough to see where he was going to take things, even if he didn't elaborate on how the story was going to wrap up. What do you guys think? As always, share your thoughts in the usual place.
 

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Imagine how bad his ideas must have been if they let him put out BvS and not that
 

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Some bits could have been cool but to do them all in 4-5 films would have been stupid.

Kill off Wonder Woman and Aquaman right away only to have to undo it the next film...
 

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I have LOADS of fight scenes we never shot for JL on my computer. We had some awesome fights and not sure why they never put them in the movie???
What we normally do is choreograph the fight then film it as a ‘previz’ even adding VFX (albeit dumbed down and not fully fleshed out, just to tell the story) then present to the director.
 

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Reboot the whole universe. Heck, Marvel is dumping all the Netflix shows simply because it is more convenient for them.
 

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I hope they get someone who looks more like Superman should to replace Cavill, if he and his manager hadn't been so greedy he'd still have the job. I just don't want them picking someone out of left field that nobody thinks fits the part the way they did with Pattinson for Batman. Superman needs to be a large guy with dark hair and able to make Clark and Superman seem like two different people.
 
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