Well the ps4 is already better performing so this may help close the gap somewhat but even though ps4 developer tools will also improve with time
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This sounds like it may actually not ONLY close the gap, but games will receive better performance than the 4 in some cases. DX 12 is a big deal.
With x1 games like Ryse and Forza already looking impressive as launch titles and weak system optimization, cant wait to see how future games look with the SDK update and DX12 features added. On top of all the system updates, the X1 will be one beast of a system by next year
Yeah I think Ryse is probably the best looking game I have ever seen. The level where you start by the water in all those trees is glorious. I will take sub 1080p if more effects can be pushed
I used to think this too...but now that i have seen infamous ss......i am not 100% sure. Both are lookers tho, daaaaaaamn!
Well the part where they say "easier porting from pc to xbox and mobile" says that it might become console of choice to devs just as it happened with x360.
Another thing to note is that while ps4 is more straight forward like PC so they can get all the performance out of it right away, but xbox is like a traditional console that actually has learning curve.
What do you guys think of this?
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http://wccftech.com/microsoft-unveiels-directx-12-api-gdc-2014-mantle-level-features/
So it turns out that D3D12 will help xbox afterall. And then still tocome that 8% of GPU reserve. That would give them 28% performance increase? That sounds like something that turns 720p game into 900p and 900p into 1080p lol
And something good for Indie devs, they'll be able to port apps/games from Win8 to xbox in a day theoretically.
http://www.totalxbox.com/73688/you-can-port-a-windows-8-game-to-xbox-one-in-a-day-in-theory/
So it turns out that D3D12 will help xbox afterall. And then still tocome that 8% of GPU reserve. That would give them 28% performance increase? That sounds like something that turns 720p game into 900p and 900p into 1080p lol
And something good for Indie devs, they'll be able to port apps/games from Win8 to xbox in a day theoretically.
http://www.totalxbox.com/73688/you-can-port-a-windows-8-game-to-xbox-one-in-a-day-in-theory/
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A year from now on or a little more and there is a good chance this whole resolution thing is gone and most/all games are either 900p which is fiiiiiiine, or even 1080p. Not to mention that Boyd from MS recently said he fully expects X1 to do more and more 1080p over time.
Therein lies the problem. That info about the new SKD is from an actual game developer , not an arm chair developer.
I was just roughly stating it like 720 +28%=920 not in actual resolutions. As most devs stick to standard sizes like 720,900,1080 except COD and TF and few others.
28% would also be innacurate as 20% is boost in efficiency so 20% boost to what is already available plus ~100Gflops (8%) with 20% increased efficiency there. So if we are getting games right now with 1.21Tf then +8%GPU +20% efficiency would be same as running 1.57Tf console on DX11 efficiency. Not that it makes it 1.57Tf of course just actually able to do more with less to be clear and those numbers are not 100% accurate either but something in that sense.
720p has 921,600 pixels+50%
900p has 1,440,000 pixels+40%
1080p has 2,073,600 pixels
But I'm not sure how would power/efficiency transfer to resolution increase in case of everything else remaining the same.
In case of TF they should use this efficiency to increase FPS stability in my opinion.
And also those are on paper increases so real world application will probably not have same results.
That new SDK is what includes 8% GPU reserve release. And some other modifications like bugfixes. The 20% efficiency if from current SDK I would assume and not on top of upcoming one but I could be wrong.
Not to rehash the indie debate, but that is good news for indies. Sony doesn't have a similar platform to allow ports to be dumped over from.
As for the DX12 thing, I'm happy that they're optimizing the dev tools. But let's not get too excited; that's all this is, optimizing dev tools to take advantage of the hardware that's there. Sony is just as capable of optimizing their toolset over time, as are all of the engine tool makers.
Look at it this way: one of the reasons we even have to hear about resolution gate is because the PS4 allows for easier development, and on paper has slightly more raw horsepower. That allowed devs to maximize their efforts relatively easily. The difficulty in dealing with ESRAM as well as slower memory is what, as I understand it, make X1 versions work better when targeting lower res, even though the hardware is certainly capable of things like 1080p. So now what will be interesting to see is whether or not more efficient tools level the playing field, all other things being equal, or whether or not the same performance improvements can be made on the PS4 side as well. I suspect that both will be true to some extent, that there will be efficiencies to be gained by improving PS4 dev tools down the line, but that the inherent "weakness" of the X1 hardware is not necessarily weakness, but an architecture that requires a slightly different approach, that isn't easy to do without the right tools.
So with this update I just downloaded is it like the other one where I can't talk to people without it?
No you said it would require the Xbox to have a 50 percent boost (compared to the 20 percent boost) to get 1080p games. The system can already do that however.
Unless you meant something different in the post I quoted. However the confusion would have happened where you said "but it will help".
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Don't tease me those Fallout 4 rumors. I might cry like a school girl!
I just want the game to come out, I don't care if it exclusive to the One or not.
Just noticed your Twitch channel tag. Bookmarked it to my bookmark bar
I already have a ton of videos...lol
Only shows 5 as far as I can see. All are Titanfall. two from 5 days a go. two from 4 days a go and one 2 hour long vid from 14 hours a go.
I'm not going to get into a technical debate/discussion with any of you, as honestly I don't have any expertise in the area, but the follow quote seems like some pretty substantial optimizations if you ask me.
http://newsle.com/article/0/132860618/
It seems that this will be a really good thing for both X1 and PC users.
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