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Are You Buying...

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Damn!
 
http://news.xbox.com/2017/02/13/forza-franchise-exceeded-1-billion-retail-sales/

The Forza Franchise Has Exceeded $1 Billion in Retail Sales

Today, we’re excited to share a major milestone – as of December 2016, the Forza franchise has exceeded $1 billion in retail sales.

This news caps an amazing year. As of December, more than 14 million unique players were involved in the Forza community on Xbox One and Windows 10, the award-winning Forza Horizon 3 sold through 2.5 million units, and Forza continued its run as the best-selling racing franchise of this console generation.* Additionally, our online racing community expanded significantly: over three million players joined us online each month and we launched the Forza Racing Championship, an eSports league for players of all skill levels to compete for glory and real-world prizes.

“Since the beginning, Forza has combined stunning graphics, racing’s leading simulation engine, and an emphasis on fun and accessibility,” said Phil Spencer, head of Xbox. “With the Forza series, Turn 10 Studios has built the world’s largest racing community. We couldn’t be more proud of their success.”

We’d like to thank our amazing fans and partners for their continued support and we can’t wait for you to see what 2017 will bring.

*Source: The NPD Group/Retail Tracking Service (U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand) – November 2012-January 2017


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Good to see a niche title like Nioh is on top. It could have sold a lot more if it wasn't undershipped or exclusive to one console.
 
If only MS could 1 day make some money off their xbox division instead of all the console cash going to Sony every gen...

If this is a joke, I apologise for the following, but MS Xbox revenue and Sonys PS4 revenue were virtually neck a neck last FY.Sony has PS4 sales and MS has Minecraft sales. One of these costs more to manufacture than the other.

Pretty clear why Gears, Halo and Forza continue till this day.

It is the Disney strategum. Franchises that span generations....and I don't mean demographics, i'm talking time.
 
If this is a joke, I apologise for the following, but MS Xbox revenue and Sonys PS4 revenue were virtually neck a neck last FY.Sony has PS4 sales and MS has Minecraft sales. One of these costs more to manufacture than the other.
That is impossible. Val says Sony has sold more PS4s so MS is in the red.
 
If this is a joke, I apologise for the following, but MS Xbox revenue and Sonys PS4 revenue were virtually neck a neck last FY.Sony has PS4 sales and MS has Minecraft sales. One of these costs more to manufacture than the other.
By pure luck, MS' and Sony's companywide sales are also pretty close at about $80 billion/year. MS makes an annual profit of about $15-25 billion/yr depending how far back you want to go the past 10 years, while in the same time frame, Sony's results are anywhere from a loss of multiple billion for 6-7 years to a profit of a whopping $1 billion.

$1 billion profit is what MS makes in about 2-3 weeks.

In a perfect world, a company will grow top line sales and bottom line profit. But given an "either/or" choice, making a profit, while foregoing sales is almost always the second best option vs. growing sales and still losing money.

That's why for any of you soon-to-be business guys will notice when you get financial performance reports at the office, people look at net sales and net profits. The only companies that focus on top line sales (or unit tonnage) are old school companies that some reason haven't got with the times. I'd rather sell $80 and make a profit of $10, then sell $110 and lose $20.

The only time it's really a better choice to go all out for sales and lose money is when a company is ramping up (pretty new), and they have to spend a bunch of money to get something up and running for the first time (like a new start up tech company).

Sony, however, is a company that's been around for probably 100 years, is not a cyclical/resource company (like a gold company that rides the wave of commodity prices whether they like it or not). Stock markets are at record highs, company are making record profits, yet Sony is still acting like it's the financial crisis of 2008. Just about every big company has recovered and set record profits.
 
I wonder if Fromsoft would make another Otagi?
Never played Otagi. Actually never heard of it until I checked YT right now.

DMC is decent, but never got into it. Seemed kind of weird to have a devil hunter, set in modern day using a gun and sword. A little too outlandish for my tastes.
 
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Would take remakes of Otogi 1 and 2 even if they would most likely only sell a couple thousand copies
 
That's why for any of you soon-to-be business guys will notice when you get financial performance reports at the office, people look at net sales and net profits. The only companies that focus on top line sales (or unit tonnage) are old school companies that some reason haven't got with the times. I'd rather sell $80 and make a profit of $10, then sell $110 and lose $20.

There's not enough information in your analogy, though. If the company that sells $80 is selling Sony machines, they are super smart. If the $110 company is Sony, they're the people's choice and therefore awesome and more successful. You clearly missed "Business 501: Sony-size Your Balance Sheet", but I'm sure that Professor VaLLiancE will explain it in greater detail soon.
 
Guess i was wrong about my NPD prediction. Seems to be a growing trend when i bleed green.

No wonder why i have issues. Losing isn't fun, every now and then it's good to be reminded that you made the right choice. I don't know how you hardcore Xbox guys deal with it. Ya'll just play games or something?

But hey, Microsoft has the most money. It's going to be okay.
 
No wonder why i have issues. Losing isn't fun, every now and then it's good to be reminded that you made the right choice. I don't know how you hardcore Xbox guys deal with it. Ya'll just play games or something?

I personally focus all my playtime in the months where XB1 wins the NPD so I don't have the -35% penalty to enjoyment that happens when they lose. :really:
 
If I didn't enjoy Microsoft's exclusives so much I would be totally heartbroken that they haven't won a generation.
 
More than 1/2 of WiiU's games are rooted in Mario. If Playstation owners are the epitome of diversified gamers then Nintendo players are their antithesis.
 
Not one MS or Sony published game in their own top 10 says a lot really for people that go on and on about exclusives.

Then on the Nintendo side...yeah 3rd party is very very important
Nintendo fans buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.
They can get by without much 3rd party support as they done this last gen with the Wii.
 
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