A hardcore Trump supporter was never going to vote for a Democrat be it a man or woman, they have their own set of problems lol.
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A hardcore Trump supporter was never going to vote for a Democrat be it a man or woman, they have their own set of problems lol.
I think most Bernie supporters who didn't vote for Hillary either went 3rd party or didn't vote at all at the top of the ballot. Trump and Bernie weren't much alike other than them being non-establishment candidates they weren't for the same things.
Her campaign's arrogance and almost expectation that they were owed people's votes are likely what kept her from bothering to campaign in those states that you mentioned.
Speaking of putting her foot in her mouth do you remember when she said "We are going to put a lot of coal miners out of work" as if that was going to win any votes? You could tell she knew she f'd up and she immediately tried to drag I believe it was the governor or some other state politician into it with her as cover. She is only in it for herself and while that may be true of most politicians at least they know how to cover it up better, she thinks she does but just exposes herself more when she tries.
I'm guessing most of those people were probably likely to vote for a Republican though anyway, most of that stuff going around just cemented their votes. It's still shady that it happened don't get me wrong but it's not like we don't interfere like crazy in other countries elections too.
I think it is reasonable to say that the Russian propaganda campaign impacted the election.
Elections always come down to the small % of undecideds. Many voters are just going to tick the party box. Those people in the middle are the ones who matter. (that's why when a President gets like 60% approval it is fantastic, because those other 40 are never going to be for him).
Were enough of those undecideds enough to sway the election? Nobody can say for sure, but is it reasonable to assume it possibly could have impacted the vote? Sure.
There's a negativity bias so when people are flooded with a large volume of negativity it can sway them.
Elections always come down to the small % of undecideds. Many voters are just going to tick the party box. Those people in the middle are the ones who matter. (that's why when a President gets like 60% approval it is fantastic, because those other 40 are never going to be for him).
Were enough of those undecideds enough to sway the election? Nobody can say for sure, but is it reasonable to assume it possibly could have impacted the vote? Sure.
There's a negativity bias so when people are flooded with a large volume of negativity it can sway them.
I'm not sure about Libertarians anymore. Many of their supporters sound like anarchists.
It's weird for me to say that because I voted for Ron Paul mostly on foreign policy and for being against bailouts. I'm not sure about the murky argument over the Federal Reserve many people are still hung up on.
It's weird for me to say that because I voted for Ron Paul mostly on foreign policy and for being against bailouts. I'm not sure about the murky argument over the Federal Reserve many people are still hung up on.
If you watch their debates and gatherings most of them come across as freaking crazy.
Having the two most unpopular candidates in history likely had a bigger impact, neither side had someone that the majority could get excited about. That being said Trump constantly rallied to large crowds while Hillary had fewer rallies and they were generally in front of much smaller groups.
For the 2008 election I went to a Ron Paul meetup group run by a Progressive Book Store owner who did like Paul for the same reasons I did. Most of the experience was good at first, but over time more and more things got weird and frustrating. People would launch into the most pointless debates or at local events promoting the candidate people brought their 9-11 conspiracy pamphlets.
There is also an increasingly popular slogan "All Taxation is Theft". Why form a government and not fund it?!
The last election I did wind up voting Stein actually, but I did more for the Green Party and I flat out dislike Trump and Clinton.
I honestly would not be surprised to learn that Russia has been tinkering with Libertarian groups on social media a lot longer than 2014. Libertarians have always been out there, but in 2011 it really got out of hand. They used (or were used to influence) social media to get their message out to the fringes. So many made up stories and conspiracy theories, many of which originated from RT and other Russian-owned sites. A bunch Libertarians were eventually paid by Russian-owned media to create content for them. In retrospect, it looks like something Russia would do to test the waters.
I feel like this statement got the ball rolling into a complete bizarro world discussion among Libertarians.
I mean it's interesting to imagine a purely voluntary society or government, but it's a hypothetical that doesn't seem practical. Especially since I don't think Napolitano has ever described specifically how the voluntary society works in detail.
I mean it's interesting to imagine a purely voluntary society or government, but it's a hypothetical that doesn't seem practical. Especially since I don't think Napolitano has ever described specifically how the voluntary society works in detail.
That doesn't change what she said here though, Hillary wasn't owed votes it was up to her to earn them. The people who are really for the Green party wouldn't vote for Trump or Hillary so she didn't really cost anyone an election and that's her point.
Man featured on "Trump Dating" site has child sex convictionThey now have a dating site for Trump singles....
the divorce rate/breakups are going to hit 100% once FOX declares the establishment of the site as FAKE NEWS
A North Carolina man with a felony conviction for indecent liberties with a child was one-half of the poster couple for a new "Trump Dating" website.
News outlets reported Monday that visitors to the dating site geared toward supporters of the president were greeted with the faces of Jodi and William Barrett Riddleberger, conservative activists involved in the Tea Party-inspired political action committee, Conservatives for Guilford County. The couple's exact role with the site is unclear.
State records show Riddleberger was convicted in 1995 on the charge stemming from filming sex with a 15-year-old girl. He was then 25.
He told WRAL-TV that he's "already paid (his) debt" for that charge. Records show he didn't serve prison time.
As of Tuesday morning, the site trump.dating now features a different couple.
There's some libertarians that are really out there, but that's like any other group.
There's people out there who genuinely believe the earth is flat. I guarantee you there are people that think the White House has a direct link for Trump to speak to god. There's actual Nazis, socialists and communists.
Just think back to some of the videos coming out of either major party's rallies.
I'm not going to defend everything the libertarians do because I don't agree with a lot of it. Just take a look at the White House right now and tell me honestly how bad would Gary Johnson be for this country? Keep in mind that congress and checks and balances would keep any president in check.
Check out some of the forums they had early on in the election on CNN (before CNN turned on them when they realized the election was going to be close).
I mean, what about the Republican party makes sense anymore other than the fact that they are a long time established party? Look at Mitt Romney rolling over and accepting Trump's endorsement.
The political parties that gave us Trump and Hillary need to be challenged and questioned a lot more than they are.
I think many would wish for a viable third party but its never going to happen
That's true but what we can do is steer the agenda a bit, much like Bernie did with Hillary in 2016.
It is really sad and a little terrifying that there is no fiscal conservative party in the US right now.
That was clearly a clerical error; his hiring instruction fell out of the Senate pile and onto the Drumpf dating profile.
We do need more parties. The problem is, there are many more diehard republicans who will vote for a republican no matter what, in my opinion. They won't be swayed no matter what. If they're republican they'll vote for them.
While I agree there needs to be more viable third party candidates, they cannot be given a platform at all in 2020 if the orangeutang is still in office and seeks re-election. Even if he doesn't, a democrat needs to go in office. If it's another republican, they will pardon trump, his family, and his cronies if they are found guilty of crimes.
While I agree there needs to be more viable third party candidates, they cannot be given a platform at all in 2020 if the orangeutang is still in office and seeks re-election. Even if he doesn't, a democrat needs to go in office. If it's another republican, they will pardon trump, his family, and his cronies if they are found guilty of crimes.
They're doing it wrong. Don't vote for the candidate you like, vote for who you hate the least. That's what I do.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/politics/robert-mueller-rick-gates/index.html
Mueller charges lawyer with lying about interaction with Rick Gates
Special counsel Robert Mueller has filed a charge against a lawyer for lying to investigators about his interaction with former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates in September 2016.
Alex Van Der Zwaan is expected to plead guilty Tuesday afternoon. The filing is further evidence of Mueller's investigation of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Gates and their work for Russian-allied clients.
He is also accused of lying about the failure to turn over an email communication to the special counsel's office. He was speaking with investigators about his work with Skadden Arps in 2012 when the firm did work for the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice to prepare a report on the trial of Yulia Tymoshenko.
Van Der Zwaan has a plea hearing scheduled for Tuesday afternoon at US District Court in Washington, DC.
Mueller charges lawyer with lying about interaction with Rick Gates
Special counsel Robert Mueller has filed a charge against a lawyer for lying to investigators about his interaction with former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates in September 2016.
Alex Van Der Zwaan is expected to plead guilty Tuesday afternoon. The filing is further evidence of Mueller's investigation of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Gates and their work for Russian-allied clients.
He is also accused of lying about the failure to turn over an email communication to the special counsel's office. He was speaking with investigators about his work with Skadden Arps in 2012 when the firm did work for the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice to prepare a report on the trial of Yulia Tymoshenko.
Van Der Zwaan has a plea hearing scheduled for Tuesday afternoon at US District Court in Washington, DC.
If anybody believes this, their right to vote should be taken away.
The problem is that the so-called "conservative" party is only conservative in their religious beliefs, not fiscally conservative.
Too many Republicans fail to see this.
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