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Hiring all the best people.

Wilbur Ross is accused of swindling $120 million from associates and 'could rank among the biggest grifters in American history,' according to a bombshell Forbes report.
 
Hiring all the best people.

Wilbur Ross is accused of swindling $120 million from associates and 'could rank among the biggest grifters in American history,' according to a bombshell Forbes report.
Nobody knew this face was the face of an utter scumbag? Pepperidge Farm knew.....

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Hiring all the best people.

Wilbur Ross is accused of swindling $120 million from associates and 'could rank among the biggest grifters in American history,' according to a bombshell Forbes report.

It might not even be enough to be among the biggest grifters in this "administration" however.
 
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lol at Trump's complaint that Clinton hiring Fusion GPS and Steele to get oppo research on him, is either as bad, or even worse, than what he did. Here is an article from WAPO discussing what the difference is, but below is a comment that makes it even more clear cut the differences.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-dossier-likely-didnt/?utm_term=.bc164393d0e2


Scenario 1: You are running for mayor and you suspect that your opponent has links with organised crime in your city. You hire an ex-cop to do some digging and he talks to his informants and contacts close to the criminals. He gets some information which backs up his suspicions, produces a dossier with all the details, including some that he cannot verify. You share this information with law enforcement and declare the expense on your FEC report, but because you cannot prove anything do not use it in your campaign.

Scenario 2: You are running for mayor and some associates of your city's organised criminals get in touch with your campaign saying that their bosses want you to win and offer a meeting where they will give you dirt on your opponent. Your son, son-in-law and campaign boss take the meeting. Soon the criminals start leaking damaging information about your opponent which they have stolen from her and her campaign. The criminals launch a dirty tricks campaign and you call on them to steal more information about your opponent. You repeatedly deny and lie about the contacts your campaign has had with the criminals. You take advantage of the stolen material and it helps you win the election.
 
Remember too, as much as Trump tries to change the facts, the Russia dossier originally was funded by a conservative group, then later found by the Democrats.

People need to remember that as much as Trump loves to change the facts on this, this thing originated from Republicans trying to prevent him from winning the primary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier
 
This is also how you combat the alt right. You can't just tug at their heart strings, because often there's nothing connected to the other end.

You have to show that not only are their immigration policies horrible from a human perspective, they also do NOT work anyway.

Even with all Trump's policies trying to discourage people from crossing the border, more are coming.

So, not only is crying children awful, it isn't stopping the immigrants.

 
lol at Trump's complaint that Clinton hiring Fusion GPS and Steele to get oppo research on him, is either as bad, or even worse, than what he did. Here is an article from WAPO discussing what the difference is, but below is a comment that makes it even more clear cut the differences.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-dossier-likely-didnt/?utm_term=.bc164393d0e2

But that's fake news, painting the Russians as criminals. There are some fine people there, because they're not brown and not gay.
 
Make America Grift Again (again, and again).

 
Interesting read. devos's yacht that was untied by scofflaws, and set sail with nobody on board, is registered in the Cayman Islands. Doing so means she didn't have to pay sales tax nor does she have to pay use tax that most of us laymen do for our cars. With this piece of s*** not paying use tax, the cops she called to recover he yacht was covered by tax payers since she doesn't pay any taxes on the yacht. In addition, not surprisingly, many of the trump trash administration are also storing wealth off-shore bypassing paying hundreds of millions in taxes. So much for "America First."

https://www.newsweek.com/betsy-devo...cht-flag-foreign-donald-trump-america-1061960

WHY DOES BETSY DEVOS’S FAMILY YACHT FLY A FOREIGN FLAG? DONALD TRUMP’S ‘AMERICA FIRST’ ADMINISTRATION AND THE CAYMAN ISLANDS
We already know that Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao’s family shipping consortium routesits business through the Marshall Islands—a notoriously secretive tax haven. Federal records detail how Trump’s Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, SEC Chairman Jay Clayton and Federal Reserve board appointee Randal Quarles held parts of their personal fortunes in investments based in the Cayman Islands, which are not necessarily required to adhere to America’s domestic financial regulations.​
Now there’s DeVos, one of the heirs of Amway’s multi-level marketing empire. When the family’s 164-foot yacht was untethered from a Huron, Ohio, dock, it was flying a flag of the Cayman Islands, where the yacht is registered, according to VesselTracker. According to federal records, the yacht is owned by RDV International Marine, which is an affiliate of the company that controls the DeVos family’s fortune.​
"If you want to come in and use the waters of a given state of the United States, the question is how can you how can you insulate yourself from getting hit for the use tax?" maritime attorney Michael T. Moore told Capital & Main. "The answer is: close and register offshore. If you close and register offshore, you aren't subject to either a sales or a use tax. You are simply visiting the United States, and you are visiting under a privilege that is granted to certain countries in the world under what is called a cruising permit. Those countries grant the privilege to U.S. flagged vessels, and the United States offers that reciprocal right to vessels flagged by those countries. In practice, it means the permit allows you to go from port to port in different states without having to officially make entry and pay taxes to the states of the ports you visit."​
DeVos’s yacht is reportedly one of ten in the family’s fleet and is worth $40 million. If the vessel was registered in, say, Grand Rapids, Michigan—the state where RDV is located and that has in the past made an effort to compel yacht owners to pay use taxes—the Seaquest would likely be subject to Michigan’s 6 percent use tax. That would require the DeVos empire to cough up about $2.4 million: public revenues that help finance the kind of police services that the DeVos yacht crew called when the boat was untied. With the Cayman flag fluttering on its deck, the family can avoid the levy even as it cruises the Great Lakes.​
Another incentive for yacht owners to register offshore is the potential to avoid stricter inspection and safety standards required for U.S.-registered vessels of a certain size.​
"If someone is buying a boat that is above 300 gross tons but below 500 gross tons, getting registered offshore means they can avoid being subject to U.S. Coast Guard inspection and certification requirements as either a ‘seagoing motor vessel’ or a ‘passenger vessel,’" said maritime attorney Mark J. Buhler. "The most commonly used offshore yacht registries have comprehensive large yacht safety codes that were specifically developed for large yachts, whereas the U.S. Coast Guard regulations and inspection requirements applicable to ‘seagoing motor vessels’ or ‘passenger vessels’ were created many years ago principally for vessels engaged in trade, and not really having large yachts in mind. Those requirements do not translate well to yachts, and most yachts are simply not designed or built to those particular standards."​
The DeVos yacht is 492 gross tons, according to MarineTraffic.​
 
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Just one of the many absurd issues with our tax code. While it is valid to debate how much rich people should be taxed, first we need to figure out what taxes they actually pay. There are so many loopholes that they can take advantage of like this.

Still though, I know the blue collar workers in the rust belt can totally relate when one of your 10 multi-million dollar yachts is lost.
 
Just one of the many absurd issues with our tax code. While it is valid to debate how much rich people should be taxed, first we need to figure out what taxes they actually pay. There are so many loopholes that they can take advantage of like this.

Still though, I know the blue collar workers in the rust belt can totally relate when one of your 10 multi-million dollar yachts is lost.
These guys are stoked about their yacht tax havens.....

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Of course an anti-Trump comment on Reddit would gain me my most post karma yet. Almost to 900!
 
“Many folks think that Rand Paul can’t be beat, they’re worried he might be too well-liked. I don’t buy that. Just ask his neighbor. He can be beaten.”
— Kentucky Secretary of State Allison Lundergan Grimes (D)

 
We can't contain all this winning.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/4...jumps-20-percent-after-tax-cuts-spending-bill

Federal deficit jumps 20 percent after tax cuts, spending bill
The federal deficit jumped 20 percent in the first 10 months of the 2018 fiscal year, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reported Wednesday.​
Spending outpaced revenue between the beginning of the fiscal year, on Oct. 1, and July by $682 billion, $116 billion more than over the same period in the last fiscal year.​
The rising deficit is largely the result of the tax cuts President Trumpsigned into law at the end of last year, as well as a bipartisan agreement to boost spending, according to CBO.​
Tax revenues from individuals rose, even as revenues from corporate taxes dropped.​
The Trump administration has argued that the tax cuts would bring down the deficit, as economic growth led to higher tax revenue. The economy did expand in the second quarter by 4.1 percent.​
But economists have argued the growth would have to be much larger to reduce the deficit.​
The CBO projects that the deficit will reach $793 billion by the end of the year and approach $1 trillion next year. White House estimates have the deficit surpassing $1 trillion in 2019.​
Budget watchers have warned that interest payments — the amount the Treasury has to pay just to service the debt — are slated to become the fastest-growing annual expenditure.​
The CBO projects that in 30 years, the government will spend more on servicing debt than on Social Security or defense.​
 
Another fine Republican taken down by a witch hunt. This guy is the result of a horribly gerrymandered district in NY State that somehow links a patchwork of rural Republicans in the otherwise heavily blue state.

 
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Another fine Republican taken down by a witch hunt. This guy is the result of a horribly gerrymandered district in NY State that somehow links a patchwork of rural Republicans in the otherwise heavily blue state.

...and this POS is going to run again! He holds a press conference to say he's innocent and it is all a misunderstanding. There is a mountain of evidence against this guy. They were investigating him a long time after getting a tip and the guy has tons of texts telling people to buy or sell. At one point he's even calling his son multiple times frantically trying to get him to dump the stock. I know all that "innocent until proven guilty" but this isn't some political witch hunt. The indictment is 30 freaking pages.

It just shows how the GOP has fallen. I know this is only insider trading, but this guy got caught red handed. Again too this is one of those gerrymandered "hand carved" districts to give the GOP one seat in an otherwise deep blue state. This is a state where Hillary won by 22%.
 
nunes was recorded during a private gathering.....

Clip #1:​
REP. NUNES (R-CA): “So therein lies, so it’s like your classic Catch-22 situation where we were at a – this puts us in such a tough spot. If Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones. Which is really the danger. That’s why I keep, and thank you for saying it by the way, I mean we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority. If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”​
Clip #2:​
REP. NUNES (R-CA): “They know it’s ridiculous to go after the president for obstruction of justice. But if they tell a lie often enough and they put it out there and they say, ‘Oh, we’re looking at the tweets,’ cause you know you’ve got a mixed bag on the tweets, right? Like sometimes you love the president’s tweets, sometimes we cringe on the president’s tweets. But they’re trying to make a political, this is all political as to why that story ran in the New York Times on the tweets.”​
Clip #3:​
REP. NUNES (R-CA): “Now if somebody thinks that my campaign or Cathy’s campaign is colluding with the Chinese, or you name the country, hey, could happen, it would be a very bad thing if Cathy was getting secrets from the Portuguese, let’s say, just because I’m Portuguese, my family was. So Cathy was getting secret information from the Portuguese. You know, may or may not be unusual. But ultimately let’s say the Portuguese came and brought her some stolen emails. And she decided to release those. Okay, now we have a problem, right? Because somebody stole the emails, gave ‘em to Cathy, Cathy released ‘em. Well, if that’s the case, then that’s criminal.”​
Clip #4:​
AUDIENCE MEMBER: “But also, on things that came up in the House on Rosenstein impeachment thing. And it appears from an outsider that the Republicans were not supported.”​
REP. NUNES (R-CA): “Yeah, well, so it’s a bit complicated, right? And I say that because you have to, so we only have so many months left, right? So if we actually vote to impeach, okay, what that does is that triggers the Senate then has to take it up. Well, and you have to decide what you want right now because the Senate only has so much time. Do you want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice, the new Supreme Court justice? So that’s part of why, I don’t think you have, you’re not getting from, and I’ve said publicly Rosenstein deserves to be impeached. I mean, so, I don’t think you’re gonna get any argument from most of our colleagues. The question is the timing of it right before the election.”​
REP. MCMORRIS RODGERS (R-WA): “Also, the Senate has to start –”​
REP. NUNES (R-CA): “The Senate would have to start, the Senate would have to drop everything they’re doing and start to, and start with impeachment on Rosenstein. And then take the risk of not getting Kavanaugh confirmed. So it’s not a matter that any of us like Rosenstein. It’s a matter of, it’s a matter of timing.”​
 
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