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In lines of resolution and in the amount of pixels...

1600x900=?
1280x720=?
1920x1080=?

For those who don't know when you find out...you will see how big of a gap there is.
And to those who care about visuals you will see how important these differences are.
 
Kill yourself, I've never stated anything such; feel free to dig up a post of me even beginning to mention TR a game I've gone on record on TXB plenty of times and stated I wasn't impressed with it visually. I have stated however that the Xbox One and PS4 won't be more powerful than the latest PC during the same timeframe despite you and Seekar constantly going on about these consoles being a generation beyond what was available for PCs. Seekar always stated Durango/Orbis would be two generations beyond, you were not as stupid (but still pretty dumb) and stated one generation beyond. And when I explained why this was not going to happen; you were like "teh trendz!" And thus we got into a very very long argument about Xbox/Xbox 360 vs PC during their launch.




Yea you've been peddling this nonsense for a while now as well. Being able to render at a lower resolution and scale up has nothing to do with "naunced design". Simply put if developers decided to render at 720p to match the XBO version that "brute force" machine will still do better.

Throwing bandwidth into pixel is stupid...yet Turn10 aimed for 1080p/60. I guess they're dumb, I also guess Crytek is dumb for going for 1600x900. They should have just went for 1280x720p. Seriously you're so all over the place and utterly nonsensical lol.



First, there was never "secret sauce" it was quite literally something that Arthur Gies from Polygon made up and it spread like wild fire, from that point on any new information we got on the Xbox One was questioned as being the secret sauce; our very own Astro did his part to make sure that stupidity kept going; he "analyzed" vague patent after patent; random post after random post; tweet after tweet and threw forth many theories on that the secret sauce was; after absolutely none of his baseless guesses came to fruition he was like "herp derp, you guys have all been wrong, the entire system is the secret sauce!" Yea everyone else was wrong in their guideless search for secret sauce led by Astro, but not him. herp.

Second, 360 was never weaker than PS3; it always had the more powerful GPU which is why 98% of multiplatform games performed better on 360 even if the differences in visuals were minute. If PS4 ended up weaker than XBO then we'd just have a repeat of PS3/360 generation in which one group would be see "vast differences" in the two platforms while the other group dismissed it and said it's all about the gameplay much like is currently taking place.

Third, as for PS3 being twice the FLOPs of the 360 that's just nonsensical BS that Sony engaged in to one up MS's complete BS. During TheColony 360 reveal one of MS's engineers stated Xbox 360 had 1TFLOP of computing power; Sony didn't like that, so they used some PR math and came up with 2TFLOP for their machine. Neither console is/was anywhere near 1/2TFLOP respectively and come in around 240-250GFLOPs.

Fourth, I don't think anyone is dismissing XBO at all, people are dismissing astro's completely clueless statements on this magical scaler which he always brought up when it had no bearing in conversation. It was his clutch; you thought PS4 games would be higher resolution? Nope bro, it doesn't have the magical scaler; besides 14+4CUs and 4CU for audio! Don't forget Xbox One is 100% efficient PS4 is brute force derp!

Fifth, your second post quite literally sums up TXB circa 2005-2012; people justifying their purchase while vast majority couldn't see the difference. And regardless; the fact that there were differences was enough to incite 40page argument speaks volume. I mean we had a thread in which people said they couldn't see a difference between PC and 360 multiplatform games, and that the extra framerates don't matter; then those same people would turn around and go into PS3/360 comparison threads and talk about vast differences…Astro being one of them. All of it a bunch of mental gymnastics. Many people may not be able to see a difference (this is called an opinion astro, I suggest writing this down); but suggesting that because they can't see a difference therefore they're the same is factually incorrect. One runs at a higher resolution as well as having a better framerate thus they're different with one being "better" regardless of how small that difference is...much like last generation.

And to make this entire thing even more humorous Astro was one of the guys back on TXB betting up and down that Xbox would have more games running at 1080p because of the mgical display planes (scaler); but then is in this thread saying that resolution basically doesn't matter...but it mattered back before these consoles came out for him to place pointless wagers with other members. The hypocrisy and mental gymnastics is just mind numbing really.
Wow! Got it so no secret sauce and nothing to learn or unlock about xb1 for the next 5-6 years. We're stuck sub 1080p internal rendering forever this gen on xb1 for every title. Ryse was a fluke and again only 900p proving your point.

Now PS3 wasn't the most powerful console? So it is just like this gen roles reversed? The most expensive console isn't the most powerful and multi plat titles will look arguably/significantly/insignificantly better on the cheaper system. So what is the big deal about since we're repeating history then?
 
Prove that anyone here said that visually to the naked eye....we'd see 50% difference.

How? He remembers it as do I. No doubt tons of ppl here recall those debates. I got tons of PM's at TXB from ppl wanting to know why everyone was making those very specific claims. They didn't imagine that just because you have a very selective memory. GameNameFame, Puppetteer, Cutting, avatar299, etc, etc all made those claims that day 1 we would see huge visual disparities FAR outweighing anything we saw with 360/PS3. If you can't remember that's on your s*** memory, not on us bud.
 
I bet you fools can't link to where Ketto or myself claimed that visually we'd see games look so dramatically different on one console versus the other.


I bet I can find links where I said they would look about the same. I bet I can even find where I said that BF4 on PS4 was close to pc quality (outside of the resolution differences).




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In lines of resolution and in the amount of pixels...

1600x900=?
1280x720=?
1920x1080=?

For those who don't know when you find out...you will see how big of a gap there is.
And to those who care about visuals you will see how important these differences are.

Oh ok, I was thinking you were talking about 1440x900. Either way, it's not imparting a notable visual difference outside of subpixel aliasing and it's not on modern games. Just Ghosts which is fugly on all platforms somehow.
 
I bet you fools can't link to where Ketto or myself claimed that visually we'd see games look so dramatically different on one console versus the other.


I bet I can find links where I said they would look about the same. I bet I can even find where I said that BF4 on PS4 was close to pc quality (outside of the resolution differences).




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TXB doesn't exist. How would you like us to find links that no longer exist anymore? And fyi, I didn't claim that YOU said there would be vast differences. Start READING posts before whining about how others are 'fools'.
 
TXB doesn't exist. How would you like us to find links that no longer exist anymore? And fyi, I didn't claim that YOU said there would be vast differences. Start READING posts before whining about how others are 'fools'.


This site has been around for a few months, and the same old arguments and conversations carried over........no one claimed the bs you're pushing.
 
Prove that anyone here said that visually to the naked eye....we'd see 50% difference.
The mere fact that you try to insinuate that what Sony and Pc gamers were ACTUALLY saying, was that it would come down to resolutions etc, just proves you guys are full of it mate. Once word/FUD got out that the Ps4 would be the most powerful, the automatic assumption was that there would be significant differences in visual fidelity between the XO and the Ps4. Now you want to convince people that Sony gamers have Oracle abilities, and forseen 50% more power actually translating into mere resolutions?!

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Wow! Got it so no secret sauce and nothing to learn or unlock about xb1 for the next 5-6 years. We're stuck sub 1080p internal rendering forever this gen on xb1 for every title. Ryse was a fluke and again only 900p proving your point.

Now PS3 wasn't the most powerful console? So it is just like this gen roles reversed? The most expensive console isn't the most powerful and multi plat titles will look arguably/significantly/insignificantly better on the cheaper system. So what is the big deal about since we're repeating history then?

The big deal is he is being pushed into a corner and has to completely rewrite post histories and hope ppl don't notice in order to coddle his pathetic lil ego. Anything that contributes positively to X1's design is branded as secret sauce and magic for whatever reason is most convenient at the time. ;)
 
Bingo. All the fools who bought into the bulls*** numbers game suddenly don't recall acting like that. They've white washed their entire post history from TXB and just pretend it never happened to avoid admitting I was right all along. How convenient that this nonsense revisionist history comes out after TXB was shut down. There were countless debates where I was alone in arguing that whatever differences we would get would be tiny and insignificant and that the display planes would help mitigate the need to process heaps of pixels without detriment to the asset display and Ketto and co. were right there arguing that the difference would be vast and noticeable every step of the way until actual games got shown.

More like you were wrong all along and just can't admit it, so you have to play the "You don't know what you're talking about!" game.

And don't feel good about yourself because McMasters sings to your tune, he's just a sane version of theseekar and doesn't even own an X1.
 
Bingo. All the fools who bought into the bulls*** numbers game suddenly don't recall acting like that. They've white washed their entire post history from TXB and just pretend it never happened to avoid admitting I was right all along. How convenient that this nonsense revisionist history comes out after TXB was shut down. There were countless debates where I was alone in arguing that whatever differences we would get would be tiny and insignificant and that the display planes would help mitigate the need to process heaps of pixels without detriment to the asset display and Ketto and co. were right there arguing that the difference would be vast and noticeable every step of the way until actual games got shown.

I remember the discussions, vividly. They, Ketto, Qbert and the lot, can forget if they want to. I havent forgot.
 
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This site has been around for a few months, and the same old arguments and conversations carried over........no one claimed the bs you're pushing.

What I said was those ppl were claiming as much on TXB. Kong no longer participates in those debates, Ketto changed his tune after actual games were shown at E3 and he was made a fool of (to his credit), and the others I listed (add Child Ninja to the list if ya like) aren't on this forum afaik. Except Cutting who also stopped taking part. I certainly didn't imagine those PM's referencing the overwhelming consensus from the Sony fans there in the OCD at TXB and folks like MosquitoMasher and McMasters and whatnot didn't imagine it either. Get real.
 
Try harder dude. I've said myself plenty of times that the differences won't be a big deal, regardless of who the differences benefit, and yes, I have been part of these discussions.....and have NEVER heard Ketto claim that PS4 games would visually look vastly superior over XB1 games, not in any serious meaningful way.

Yeah, the general consensus was this generation was going to be similar to the last with the roles reversed. And that is probably what it will be. You are 100 % correct about what went on.
 
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PS4 is more powerful but so what they are close in power..Even 50% isn't a big leap.
The mere fact that you try to insinuate that what Sony and Pc gamers were ACTUALLY saying, was that it would come down to resolutions etc, just proves you guys are full of it mate. Once word/FUD got out that the Ps4 would be the most powerful, the automatic assumption was that there would be significant differences in visual fidelity between the XO and the Ps4. Now you want to convince people that Sony gamers have Oracle abilities, and forseen 50% more power actually translating into mere resolutions?!

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Shut up mate....fact still remains, no one said that visually to the naked eye we'd see this grand 50% better visuals. It was all some BS argument that some of you used to bash Sony fans.


Fact. PS4 is a more powerful system.
Fact. We are seeing multiplats looking and performing better on PS4.
Those 2 facts are all people were saying. No one was saying that it would be some grand difference. If anything, most people here...INCLUDING myself, have said several times, that on screen, multiplats would look similar, if anything, more closer together than last gen.
 
What I said was those ppl were claiming as much on TXB. Kong no longer participates in those debates, Ketto changed his tune after actual games were shown at E3 and he was made a fool of (to his credit), and the others I listed (add Child Ninja to the list if ya like) aren't on this forum afaik. Except Cutting who also stopped taking part. I certainly didn't imagine those PM's referencing the overwhelming consensus from the Sony fans there in the OCD at TXB and folks like MosquitoMasher and McMasters and whatnot didn't imagine it either. Get real.


Ketto didn't change his tune...if anything, he was one of the more level headed posters over at TXB. He never said there would be a grand visual difference between multiplats....you've made this up in your head.
 
More like you were wrong all along and just can't admit it, so you have to play the "You don't know what you're talking about!" game.

And don't feel good about yourself because McMasters sings to your tune, he's just a sane version of theseekar and doesn't even own an X1.
You have no idea who I am so you should keep it there bud. Secondly, I remember the conversations and there were many stating the Ps4 would mop the floor with the XO. The first video that revealed that the Xo was on par was BF4 and almost immediately, most prefered the XO version versus the Ps4 until Sony gamers couldnt handle the truth and ran to semantics and trivial bullet points. Its not that we're wrong. It comes to simply this.....

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Shut up mate....fact still remains, no one said that visually to the naked eye we'd see this grand 50% better visuals. It was all some BS argument that some of you used to bash Sony fans.


Fact. PS4 is a more powerful system.
Fact. We are seeing multiplats looking and performing better on PS4.
Those 2 facts are all people were saying. No one was saying that it would be some grand difference. If anything, most people here...INCLUDING myself, have said several times, that on screen, multiplats would look similar, if anything, more closer together than last gen.
Shut up?! Thats the best ya got!?o_O

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Shut up mate....fact still remains, no one said that visually to the naked eye we'd see this grand 50% better visuals. It was all some BS argument that some of you used to bash Sony fans.


Fact. PS4 is a more powerful system.
Fact. We are seeing multiplats looking and performing better on PS4.
Those 2 facts are all people were saying. No one was saying that it would be some grand difference. If anything, most people here...INCLUDING myself, have said several times, that on screen, multiplats would look similar, if anything, more closer together than last gen.
Right. Continue living under that illusion if you want to......mate. I'm done with discussing this with you. You know damned well you lot touted the PS4 would handily beat the XO in visual fidelity because of 50%, no 40% no wait, 30% etc, etc. It only became reality when we seen for ourselves that the XO was just as powerful as the PS4, beginning with BF4. Now its resolutions and performance which is beyond ridiculous because the only way to see any difference is by comparing with Slide shows and magnifying glasses, for the accomplished desperates. You, Ketto and the rest who prefer to shift goal posts must be smoking the same s***......

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and........by your's truly.....me, back in sept, BEFORE we saw BF4 in action.

In the end, both consoles will produce extremely similiar results.
 
More like you were wrong all along and just can't admit it, so you have to play the "You don't know what you're talking about!" game.

And don't feel good about yourself because McMasters sings to your tune, he's just a sane version of theseekar and doesn't even own an X1.
I thought he was JJ Broanna?
 
Right. Continue living under that illusion if you want to......mate. I'm done with discussing this with you. You know damned well you lot touted the PS4 would handily beat the XO in visual fidelity because of 50%, no 40% no wait, 30% etc, etc. It only became reality when we seen for ourselves that the XO was just as powerful as the PS4, beginning with BF4. Now its resolutions and performance which is beyond ridiculous because the only way to see any difference is by comparing with Slide shows and magnifying glasses, for the accomplished desperates. You, Ketto and the rest who prefer to shift goal posts must be smoking the same s***......

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Again, prove it. Seeing as I could find posts from me and Cutting saying otherwise....before those BF4 videos were coming out. You know, sept......BEFORE eurogamer made their comparisons.
 
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Shut up mate....fact still remains, no one said that visually to the naked eye we'd see this grand 50% better visuals. It was all some BS argument that some of you used to bash Sony fans.


Fact. PS4 is a more powerful system.
Fact. We are seeing multiplats looking and performing better on PS4.
Those 2 facts are all people were saying. No one was saying that it would be some grand difference. If anything, most people here...INCLUDING myself, have said several times, that on screen, multiplats would look similar, if anything, more closer together than last gen.
Fact they is mad the PS4 is more powerful and Full HD
 
Right, people magically changed their tune, and how ironic that you claim this now when you can't back up your claims.

Wat? Lots of the OCD Sony trolls changed their tunes when coming here. Plainview gave them a chance for a fresh start and many ppl took the opportunity. Kong is an example, for instance.
 
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