Official Thread Baldur's Gate 3

[cmstophe]

I am as big a Blizz/Diablo fanboy as there is but there is zero chance anyone could convince me it’s a better game than BG3. Lol. Didn't play Zelda (I cant even beat BotW so I probably wouldn't be crazy about it) or Harry Potter.

But again, all opinion based so who cares. Just stating mine, that there is no question it should be in the running.

 

[starseeker]

I am as big a Blizz/Diablo fanboy as there is but there is zero chance anyone could convince me it’s a better game than BG3. Lol. Didn't play Zelda (I cant even beat BotW so I probably wouldn't be crazy about it) or Harry Potter.

But again, all opinion based so who cares. Just stating mine, that there is no question it should be in the running.

Like you said, it’s subjective. The d4 campaign alone is an epic experience with many epic moments from start to end. It’s like Troy va game of throne (bg3)

If anything, now that I think of it Harry Potter game should Goty. You actually feel like being a student in hogwat, and have everything. Bg3 is good but never really does anything drastically new in the genres
compare to divinity 2 which I got as well.

But we know the Harry Porter game will not be considered .

But at end of the day it is subjective

 

[Kerosene31]

There's no doubt BG3 is a good game, but there's also no doubt to me that the "coolness" of an "indie" studio (which isn't even really true) putting out a game over the MS, EAs, Blizz/Activisions of the world.

I have no doubt that if EA put this exact game out, it would have been reviewed much more harshly.

That's not to say they didn't even deserve GOTY, but you could tell that the contest was over before it even started. You can tell the critics wanted to love it, and ignoring some issues along the way.

Again, not to say any game was better at the end of the day, but BG3 didn't just win GOTY, it basically wasn't even a contest. I think that's what bugs me so much. It didn't just win, it made it seem like this was the greatest game in the past decade, and that's where I think the problems come in. Plus, it overhypes it, so when I finally get around to playing it, my expectations are too high.

 

[cmstophe]

There's no doubt BG3 is a good game, but there's also no doubt to me that the "coolness" of an "indie" studio (which isn't even really true) putting out a game over the MS, EAs, Blizz/Activisions of the world.

I have no doubt that if EA put this exact game out, it would have been reviewed much more harshly.

That's not to say they didn't even deserve GOTY, but you could tell that the contest was over before it even started. You can tell the critics wanted to love it, and ignoring some issues along the way.

Again, not to say any game was better at the end of the day, but BG3 didn't just win GOTY, it basically wasn't even a contest. I think that's what bugs me so much. It didn't just win, it made it seem like this was the greatest game in the past decade, and that's where I think the problems come in. Plus, it overhypes it, so when I finally get around to playing it, my expectations are too high.

I’m not sure I agree in terms of actual review scores, but yes I do think Larian is a developer that is on everyone’s “good” side. So a lot of players might be more forgiving of things like obtuse camera angles or frame dips when the whole package is so fantastic.

Sure, it might be overhyped or exaggerated a bit, but so is virtually anything that is really good anymore. Probably not a popular take but I’m fine giving Larian the benefit of the doubt, I think they are one of the good ones out there in an industry increasingly filled with dogs***.

 

[Kerosene31]

I’m not sure I agree in terms of actual review scores, but yes I do think Larian is a developer that is on everyone’s “good” side. So a lot of players might be more forgiving of things like obtuse camera angles or frame dips when the whole package is so fantastic.

Sure, it might be overhyped or exaggerated a bit, but so is virtually anything that is really good anymore. Probably not a popular take but I’m fine giving Larian the benefit of the doubt, I think they are one of the good ones out there in an industry increasingly filled with dogs***.

It is the "everything made by everyone else is ****" that I have a problem with. 2023 was one of the best gaming years in a long time. BG3 was part of that, but not the only part. That kind of attitude is what's turning gaming into an even bigger mess.

If people want to boycott the big studios, then do it. This kind of "we're just going to ignore their games" doesn't work, and isn't good for gaming. I wish every company that made games could be "cool", but that's not going to happen.

 

[cmstophe]

@Kerosene31

I agree, I’m just not sure I’ve seen this “everything else is s***” sentiment too much. I do think some of the AAA studio criticism is unwarranted.

2023 was a fantastic year, but I don’t really see where other games didn’t get their props just because BG3 swept GOTY. What games are we thinking were shafted last year? Are we talking awards or review scores, both, something else?

 

[wshowers]

Hogwarts is the 1st thing that comes to mind as a game that was out and out ignored by the industry.

 

[wshowers]

Also be careful about that " good side/good guy" mantra when speaking of devs. CDPR was the industry "good guy" for a LONG time, which let them get away with a lot of design flaws/issues in their games. It wasn't until the Cyberpunk fiasco that people really started to turn a critical eye to their older games.

 

[starseeker]

Also be careful about that " good side/good guy" mantra when speaking of devs. CDPR was the industry "good guy" for a LONG time, which let them get away with a lot of design flaws/issues in their games. It wasn't until the Cyberpunk fiasco that people really started to turn a critical eye to their older games.

CD Projekt Red paid their top 10 exceutives HALF the bonus of WItcher 3. the other half distrubute to rest of the stuff. The boss used his popularity and get into poltics.

These evil big corp vs passionate small indies are just fairy tales, due to ideological position not reality.

 

[cmstophe]

Hogwarts is the 1st thing that comes to mind as a game that was out and out ignored by the industry.

Yeah, well, Hogwarts had some other factors surrounding it that probably contributed to this. Even then, it scored pretty well, which honestly surprised me as I figured it would get railroaded due to Rowling’s opinions.

Also be careful about that " good side/good guy" mantra when speaking of devs. CDPR was the industry "good guy" for a LONG time, which let them get away with a lot of design flaws/issues in their games. It wasn't until the Cyberpunk fiasco that people really started to turn a critical eye to their older games.

That’s fine, I agree - I didn’t really play any of their games until Witcher 3 which is in my top 5 all time favorite games. All games have flaws at the end of the day, it’s always a matter of how much you’re willing to forgive for the fun factor trade off.

Larian games may not be perfect but overall they are a very quality team that produces some amazing CRPG experiences, that seems to listen to and respect their fans and doesn’t really utilize microtransactions in their titles. Not a whole lot more that I can ask for from a dev, even if BG3 could have used some more time in the oven to iron out some technical issues. Until they give me some rock solid reasons to doubt them (I’m looking at you, Blizzard!) I’d have no issue including them on the good list.

 

[The Wolf King]

The press choosing to ignore it made HL massive success even more satisfying. Great game ignored because of someone who wasn't even apart of the project.
Especially when many other games get tonnes of media attention despite controversial people. Usually the people running said team.

 

[cmstophe]

The press choosing to ignore it made HL massive success even more satisfying. Great game ignored because of someone who wasn't even apart of the project.
Especially when many other games get tonnes of media attention despite controversial people. Usually the people running said team.

I agree , I didnt play it personally but I was very happy to see it a massive success and piss all of those people off.