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Hmm I know normally you download the full game and then on release date just install a key or whatever to activate it, but maybe they are releasing parts of the game as they make it or something?

Just a placeholder file. The real install will probably happen when it goes legitimately GOLD and in disc production.
 
Last night I dreamt I had this game... then something terrible happened... I woke up...
 
Fallout 4 just went full r****d. 400 Hours of content just confirmed this game will suck.

Fallout 4 Has 400+ Hours of Content, but seems extremely inflated, to me.

There was never much of a doubt that Fallout 4 would be an absolutely massive game that will surely end up taking up a lot of your time. But now, the game's lead producer has said he's played the post-apocalyptic RPG for 400 hours already and still has not seen everything it has to offer.

In an interview with OXM (via gamespresso), Jeff Gardiner said, "I've played the game for probably 400 hours, and I'm still finding stuff that I haven't seen."

Gardiner went to say that this is partly the result of the game's crafting system, which sounds fairly extensive and intricate. He also talked about how players will need to scavenge for very specific items.

"It's all common sense visual stuff. If it doesn't connect to the generator, the power doesn't work. You can actually flag stuff to say, 'I'm looking for this stuff because I want to make this' which means that when you're scavenging anything that fulfills the requirement gets flagged in the world," Gardiner explained. "When you connect stuff to the computer terminal you have a lot of control and sort of fine tuning. If you've got something that plays music, you can actually define how it's playing music."
 
That footage is from e3, even says so in video description.... :really: My pants remain un-messed. :wink:

That footage wasn't shown at E3. The description is taking about Fallout 4 being shown at the MS conference. Not this footage.
 
That footage wasn't shown at E3. The description is taking about Fallout 4 being shown at the MS conference. Not this footage.

I believe you're mistaken friend. For one thing that vid was posted before quakecon (quakecon this year was july 23-25) even happened, and the description says

"Published on Jul 17, 2015
Shown at the Xbox E3 Briefing, see early exploration outside of Vault 111 – including introductions to characters like Codsworth, Preston Garvey, and Dogmeat. Additionally, see V.A.T.S. gameplay in action, how Power Armor changes your experience, and much more."

I had seen everything in that vid at e3...
 
http://www.vg247.com/2015/08/05/fallout-4-looks-more-and-more-like-a-recycled-fallout-3/

Click bait article or reason for concern? If the game is similar to Fallout 3.....great, cause i love Fallout 3. But it should not be a recycled Fallout 3. We'll just have to wait and see, but what we saw during E3 was a clear...crystal clear step up from Fallout 3 in terms of detailed character models, some effects, just graphics in general.

At the end of the day we don't play it for the graphics though. Plus BGS has yet to come with a disappointing game in my book and that's definitely not gonna happen with Fallout 4.
 
The writer seemed put off by lack of access to the game which is fine because afterall it is the person's job to write about it. I think Fallout's 4 rollout has been brilliant. So many games lose their momentum by year after year teases (looking at you The Division). Graphics look fine. The slow bleed from last gen to cross gen to current gen has blurred the contrast and memories of what last gen looked like.
 
http://www.vg247.com/2015/08/05/fallout-4-looks-more-and-more-like-a-recycled-fallout-3/

Click bait article or reason for concern? If the game is similar to Fallout 3.....great, cause i love Fallout 3. But it should not be a recycled Fallout 3. We'll just have to wait and see, but what we saw during E3 was a clear...crystal clear step up from Fallout 3 in terms of detailed character models, some effects, just graphics in general.

At the end of the day we don't play it for the graphics though. Plus BGS has yet to come with a disappointing game in my book and that's definitely not gonna happen with Fallout 4.

Writer admits to being a Fallout fanboy then proceeds to criticize the graphics.
Idiot.
When people say they are 'Fallout' fanboys I'm starting to think they are just fans of F3 and NV. If he has played any of the previous Fallout games he would know graphics isn't something that is prioritized in the series and also that the games all look similar because that has been the f***ing art style since the original Fallout.
Ugh dumb people.
 
Weird that the guy would say it's recycled F3, when E3 showed a game that looks better and has oodles of extra customization of gear (and home defence fort).

His criticism of the green screen terminals looking similar is silly as that's what they are supposed to look like.... low res, green Unix style computer gadgets. It's like someone complaining that Geometry Wars in PGR3 looks cruddy. Well, it's supposed to look like that.
 
When people say they are 'Fallout' fanboys I'm starting to think they are just fans of F3 and NV. If he has played any of the previous Fallout games he would know graphics isn't something that is prioritized in the series and also that the games all look similar because that has been the f***ing art style since the original Fallout.
Ugh dumb people.
Exactly.

F1 and F2 came out in 1997 and 1998, making them 18 and 17 year old games. Even if you round up to 2000 (not everyone plays on day 1), that makes them 15 year old classics at minimum. The style of game is suited for older audiences, so I'd estimate that most people under 30 years old have never played it unless they saw a cheap Steam bundle and decided to pay $10 to dabble with it.
 
Writer admits to being a Fallout fanboy then proceeds to criticize the graphics.
Idiot.
When people say they are 'Fallout' fanboys I'm starting to think they are just fans of F3 and NV. If he has played any of the previous Fallout games he would know graphics isn't something that is prioritized in the series and also that the games all look similar because that has been the f***ing art style since the original Fallout.
Ugh dumb people.

He did say he was a Fallout 3 fanboy.
 
Gamescom 2015: Fallout 4 Has No Level Cap and You Can Continue Playing After the Main Story

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Bethesda's just dropped a couple of interesting facts via its official Twitter account regardingFallout 4, so we thought that we'd better help spread the news. For starters, the studio's revealed that you'll be able to keep playing the game once the main story is over. Fans will remember that Fallout 3 received a hefty backlash when people learned that their adventure was over once they had reached one of several endings, although it's worth noting that this was actually changed via the title's Broken Steel downloadable content. In any case, it's welcome news given the upcoming release's inevitably gigantic amount of content.

Next up, the developer has stated that there's no level cap. In other words, you can continue to grow and develop your character for as long as you want, without worrying about reaching a maximum level. An interesting titbit for sure, especially when you consider that the game's optional crafting systems should already provide a lot of player and world customisation.

And there you have it - Fallout 4's sounding better and better. With any luck, we'll see some new gameplay in the near future, but until then, let us know if you're counting the rad level in the comments section below.

[via twitter.com]

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015...you_can_continue_playing_after_the_main_story



 
Yeah, they won't make that mistake again (ending the main story ends the game).
 
Yeah, they won't make that mistake again (ending the main story ends the game).
I accidentally stumbled upon the end of F3 at maybe 4 hours into the game. It was in some ways cool that I could, but it kind of ruined it for me.
 
I don't know if I'll finish the main story without finding and completing everything else first. I had this predicament with Black Flag recently. I completed the main story but still had side s*** I could do. But I lost interest in playing after the main story like I had no reason to level up anymore.
 
Writer admits to being a Fallout fanboy then proceeds to criticize the graphics.
Idiot.
When people say they are 'Fallout' fanboys I'm starting to think they are just fans of F3 and NV. If he has played any of the previous Fallout games he would know graphics isn't something that is prioritized in the series and also that the games all look similar because that has been the f***ing art style since the original Fallout.
Ugh dumb people.
I do not see why you cannot be a fallout fan & critizse its graphics.

Being fan of someone or a game, doesn't mean you accept all its shortfalls.
Just because someone critizise someone (or a game in this instance), it meant they hate him (or the game in this instance). Just because one is patriatic doesn't means he need to defend everything or people of his country. You can complain about something that you think can be improved.

In fact often, citicism is a form of love. You critrize because you want or wish it to be better.

I love Deus Ex to bits, but I have no issue saying the graphics are pretty weak for its time, both environment have too much yellow, & characters are blocky.
 
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I do not see why you cannot be a fallout fan & critizse its graphics.

Being fan of someone or a game, doesn't mean you accept all its shortfalls.
Just because someone critizise someone (or a game in this instance), it meant they hate him (or the game in this instance). Just because one is patriatic doesn't means he need to defend everything or people of his country. You can complain about something that you think can be improved.

In fact often, citicism is a form of love. You critrize because you want or wish it to be better.

I love Deus Ex to bits, but I have no issue saying the graphics are pretty weak for its time, both environment have too much yellow, & characters are blocky.

Read a bit more into what I said.
I can agree that criticizing something you are a fan of is fine. However, the graphics in Fallout 4 have already been improved over the previous entry in the series....what exactly is this guy expecting? Furthermore my original issue still stands. If you are going to criticize a game series that is known more for gameplay than it is for graphics wouldn't it stand to reason that a more valid point of contention would be more along the lines of gameplay mechanics?
As I said earlier Fallout was NEVER about graphics. It started as an isometric post apocalyptic RPG that valued choice and exploration over anything else. Criticizing the graphical look of these games should be a moot point even more so since there actually is an improvement in graphics this time around. This guy just comes off as a resident graphics whore who has probably never even touched the original games.
 
Read a bit more into what I said.
I can agree that criticizing something you are a fan of is fine. However, the graphics in Fallout 4 have already been improved over the previous entry in the series....what exactly is this guy expecting? Furthermore my original issue still stands. If you are going to criticize a game series that is known more for gameplay than it is for graphics wouldn't it stand to reason that a more valid point of contention would be more along the lines of gameplay mechanics?
As I said earlier Fallout was NEVER about graphics. It started as an isometric post apocalyptic RPG that valued choice and exploration over anything else. Criticizing the graphical look of these games should be a moot point even more so since there actually is an improvement in graphics this time around. This guy just comes off as a resident graphics whore who has probably never even touched the original games.

This is an internet age, and internet folk chose graphics to be their main ranting topic.

In all seriousness, I fully agree with you, TLT. However, this persons stab at the graphics falls directly in line with what a lot of gamers said when it was revealed. I mean who knew I would have to put up a side by side comparison for gamers--apparently lovers of fallout 3-- to see the obvious improvements that have been made?

It's kind of like that saying, "Innocent until proven guilty," but is more like "Visually sucks till proven otherwise."

It is almost like the internet needs Eurogamer/digital foundry/Lense of Truth to tell them what is or isn't a good looking game.
 
It is almost like the internet needs Eurogamer/digital foundry/Lense of Truth to tell them what is or isn't a good looking game.

Yeah. This is why I consider Lense of Truth/Digital Foundry more of a cancer on modern gaming, but hey they seem to be pushing more people towards PC gaming so that is cool. LOL.
Fallout 4 is an improvement. For f***s sake there will actually be radiation storms! You had to mod Fallout NV and Fallout 3 to even get anything like that.
 
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Read a bit more into what I said.
I can agree that criticizing something you are a fan of is fine. However, the graphics in Fallout 4 have already been improved over the previous entry in the series....what exactly is this guy expecting? Furthermore my original issue still stands. If you are going to criticize a game series that is known more for gameplay than it is for graphics wouldn't it stand to reason that a more valid point of contention would be more along the lines of gameplay mechanics?
As I said earlier Fallout was NEVER about graphics. It started as an isometric post apocalyptic RPG that valued choice and exploration over anything else. Criticizing the graphical look of these games should be a moot point even more so since there actually is an improvement in graphics this time around. This guy just comes off as a resident graphics whore who has probably never even touched the original games.

I get what you said the first time. :) Maybe my post sound like a criticism , if so, I am making it clear it is not. I am just explaining my point on criticism.

Actually, I am probably the few here that play fall out 1. Only a while.

But do not fully agree with you.

I will break expectation into 2 sub cat.
a) Expectation base on previous games in the series
b) Expectation base on a current gen console games

You base your expectation more on (a) & you think the visuals are acceptable, when compare to previous game.
while he look more into (b), & think the visuals fall short of his expectations of a current gen consoles can delivered.

Depends on perspective really. If you ask me, I will consider both factors.

What I can agree with you is, we shouldn't judge the game too strongly base on visuals, as it was not the game strong point . Gameplay should be the most important factor.
 
I think Pete Hines said they weren't trying to push the graphics in Fallout 4 -- that's it's all about the world and interactivity. I'm fine with that. I really don't get the obsession over graphical minutae.
 
I think Pete Hines said they weren't trying to push the graphics in Fallout 4 -- that's it's all about the world and interactivity. I'm fine with that. I really don't get the obsession over graphical minutae.


I never have either.

I like graphics as much as the next person. I love being wowed by them, like when Gears of War first burst on to the scene...But a good looking game is worthless without solid, fun gameplay. I never would have played Gears of War for 1000 hours if I thought the gameplay sucked.
 
while he look more into (b), & think the visuals fall short of his expectations of a current gen consoles can delivered.

...and right there is the problem 'he will look more into it & think the visuals fall short of HIS expectations of what a current gen console can deliver."

What expectations are we referring to exactly? Does he want Fallout to look like Crysis? If so he is basing his expectations on a pipe dream as these consoles are already struggling with other open world games (i.e. Witcher 3 running at sub 30fps on medium settings or Dying Light running even on settings BELOW the Low settings on PCs.)

This just goes back to what I've been saying all gen. Console gamers have unrealistic expectations on what these consoles are capable off. As if there is some type of flux capacitor built into them that allows them to run ultra beautiful graphics on low powered Jaguar-based APU chips and not break a sweat.

Fallout 4 has been improved graphically and the only reason someone would not be able to see it was if their expectations were unrealistic from the beginning. PC of course is a different story and just goes to drive home what I'm hinting at. If these consoles could run Fallout 4 with better graphics and better performance they would. What we have now is a pleasant trade off between performance and upgraded graphics. Better textures and graphics would mean more stuttering and sub-optimal performance (looking at Witcher 3 on PS4/Xb1 as an example.)
 
...and right there is the problem 'he will look more into it & think the visuals fall short of HIS expectations of what a current gen console can deliver."

What expectations are we referring to exactly? Does he want Fallout to look like Crysis? If so he is basing his expectations on a pipe dream as these consoles are already struggling with other open world games (i.e. Witcher 3 running at sub 30fps on medium settings or Dying Light running even on settings BELOW the Low settings on PCs.)

This just goes back to what I've been saying all gen. Console gamers have unrealistic expectations on what these consoles are capable off. As if there is some type of flux capacitor built into them that allows them to run ultra beautiful graphics on low powered Jaguar-based APU chips and not break a sweat.

Fallout 4 has been improved graphically and the only reason someone would not be able to see it was if their expectations were unrealistic from the beginning. PC of course is a different story and just goes to drive home what I'm hinting at. If these consoles could run Fallout 4 with better graphics and better performance they would. What we have now is a pleasant trade off between performance and upgraded graphics. Better textures and graphics would mean more stuttering and sub-optimal performance (looking at Witcher 3 on PS4/Xb1 as an example.)

In my humble opinion, I think you getting way too worked out, over someone opinions.
I don't know, maybe you are having a bad day, just relay okay.

Let tomorrow be a fresh start.
 
In my humble opinion, I think you getting way too worked out, over someone opinions.
I don't know, maybe you are having a bad day, just relay okay.

Let tomorrow be a fresh start.

Sorry I get extremely passionate about anything Fallout. It sometimes spills over into the realm of zealotry.
Forgive me.
LOL.
 
Sorry I get extremely passionate about anything Fallout. It sometimes spills over into the realm of zealotry.
Forgive me.
LOL.
I understand, we get unconciously defensive about the things we love, & take criticizm of them more emotionally.

Anyway, to be clear, I am not upset about what you said, I know the strong tone you used, were not directed towards me, but mainly to the comments made by VG247, so there is no need to apologise.
Cheers
 
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