In comparison to the Wii.... it lost as did the Xbox to the PS2 and the XBO to the PS4.
2nd or 3rd=loss
MS and Sony merging??
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2nd or 3rd=loss
Wii did great. By your own choice of seeing the world, it completely annihilated the PS3! Wiped the floor with it! I already said Wii was a huge success. Try READING! It still did nothing to keep their franchises afloat, which is where they royally screwed themselves, in the long run, since that is all they have left in the console space.
Original Xbox launched the successful Halo franchise. It lived way shorter than PS2, AS IT WAS INTENDED. Xbox One is selling strong. The Xbox division makes money. If you could see beyond this as a simple "who sold more", you would see that PS3 was a HUGE financial failure and PS4 keeping Sony afloat is highly questionable.
Yup it whooped on the PS3 and 360.... ONE generation where the PS Brand didn't win ZERO wins for the XB camp
Nintendo could release a new Zelda on the right hardware and be a top seller during the Holidays.
Nintendo consoles and franchises are proven winners and Nintendo is a much bigger/more popular gaming company then MS's XB division.
The Xbox getting destroyed by the PS2 as intended crap is Xboy spin from you.
As is any time it doesn't matter who sold more talk..just bs spin.
I mean, this whole idea is pretty silly. Microsoft needs Sony's pocket change? Sony can even afford to buy their properties? They couldn't even afford to fund Shenmue! Only fanboys believe this stuff because they live in a bubble.
Now, Microsoft saying we'll quit giving you competition in the console space if you put windows 10 on PS4? That is actually a much more likely scenario, IMO. I highly doubt it, but at least it makes some sort of business sense compared to Sony buying Xbox division or whatever.
Now, Microsoft saying we'll quit giving you competition in the console space if you put windows 10 on PS4? That is actually a much more likely scenario, IMO. I highly doubt it, but at least it makes some sort of business sense compared to Sony buying Xbox division or whatever.
lol Spin? They lost money on every console so they canned the Original Xbox, which lived it's expected life. Sony should have done the same with PS3 instead of letting it continue to bleed the company for so many years, IMO.Yup it whooped on the PS3 and 360.... ONE generation where the PS Brand didn't win ZERO wins for the XB camp
Nintendo could release a new Zelda on the right hardware and be a top seller during the Holidays.
Nintendo consoles and franchises are proven winners and Nintendo is a much bigger/more popular gaming company then MS's XB division.
The Xbox getting destroyed by the PS2 as intended crap is Xboy spin from you.
As is any time it doesn't matter who sold more talk..just bs spin.
Why do you care so much who sold more? This discussion is about financially acquiring another company. Your fanboy crap is beyond moronic.
Expected ass beaten short life eh? But after it they released 2 more consoles? Gotcha
I care that Nintendo is a better more successful gaming company.
Whether they be true or not we've often heard rumors that shareholders would like to offload Xbox but Sony just couldn't afford it.
Expected ass beaten short life eh? But after it they released 2 more consoles? Gotcha
I care that Nintendo is a better more successful gaming company.
You might be laughing but that is actually pretty damned accurate of the mentality if those old interviews and stories are to be believed. The original Xboxs losses were absorbed easily and the intention was to get a jump on market share by killing that console off and by beating or meeting Sony to market with the successor.
360 came out swinging and OG XBOX got taken behind the barn and executed.
The goal with the original was to make a big splash, disrupt the market enough to get a foothold. Along the way we got some awesome games and innovation, well worth it IMO. Nintendo s***ting the bed with the Gamecube certainly helped them.
Even the basic ideas for Xbox One were prophesied in interviews back then IIRC, the end goal being to make the third console the center of the living room. Aka tvtvtv.
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I have no allegiances. If you asked me who "won" last gen (really stupid term), I'd say that it was as close to a tie as you're ever gonna get between Sony and Microsoft. Wii? I think that was about as different from a traditional console as a portable. I know others would argue otherwise, but SD with motion control as the main input? I just can't go with the idea that this in anywhere in competition, especially when a lot of people owned Wii, plus another (actual) last gen console. IMO, a laptop is more akin to a console than a Wii. You can plug it into a TV and use a controller. Nintendo also failed to sell software. How does software not account for "winning" or not?
Financially, it was Nintendo > Microsoft > Sony. This is what every company is actually trying to do, make money (strange thought). The problem with Nintendo here is that the did it while completely abandoning the core gamer. Aftershocks have been ongoing, and things will never be the same in the console space for them.
I also want to add that I had a Wii and enjoyed it for what it was. I just think that there is very little memorable about any specific game for it. Also, the elderly and soccer moms of the world who bought it because it was "neat" won't buy another Nintendo that has a controller because of Wii. It was a flash in the pan.
Financially, it was Nintendo > Microsoft > Sony. This is what every company is actually trying to do, make money (strange thought). The problem with Nintendo here is that the did it while completely abandoning the core gamer. Aftershocks have been ongoing, and things will never be the same in the console space for them.
I also want to add that I had a Wii and enjoyed it for what it was. I just think that there is very little memorable about any specific game for it. Also, the elderly and soccer moms of the world who bought it because it was "neat" won't buy another Nintendo that has a controller because of Wii. It was a flash in the pan.
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I too love the GameCube a lot. I remember I got the black one on launch day. I really like the small size of the console and it had some great games. I have owned every Nintendo console before the game cube. I would love to see Nintendo return to their formor glory, but that's wishful thinking on my part.
...and Gamecube had two Zelda games. However endearing, that doesn't mean as much as people like to think it does. N64 had the second best Zelda and that system flopped as well. Oddly enough Wii had over 100 million consoles in the market and the Zelda game on that system only hit 7 million in sales.... Which a few thousand copies more what Halo Combat Evolved sold with a quarter of the units on the market.
But people still discredit Xbox studios.
But people still discredit Xbox studios.
I heard the same thing from a guy who works in Gamespot, so it has to be true, because the guy has to know a lot about games because he works in a Gamespot.
Makes sense since Sony has all the extra cash just sitting around and MS being brok... wait a minute this isn't bizzaro world?
you can't explain this common sense truth to some. Those few deeply believe MS executives thought the original xbox was going to outsell PS2 launching a year after @ a higher pricepoint. It did what it was designed to do and establish the brand xbox.
Original Xbox was a beta test. It was a wonderful beta test. I thank video game gods every day that the OG Xbox came out. If it didn't, we'd be so far behind the current online video game world it's not funny. We'd still be chatting through text in games.
In OG Xbox, we give thanks.
In OG Xbox, we give thanks.
Punch, kick, it's all in the mind!
I caught that too...Yes, I really enjoyed this game back in the day. I also liked the Sony that was behind PS1 the most...even as a diehard Sega fan.
Not happening. I could see Sony eventually coming to Microsoft and wanting to team up now that the X1 is getting ready to take over the market. But Microsoft wanting any part of Sony? I don't think so. Let's remember why Nintendo and Sony never teamed up. Because Sony wanted the rights to Mario. They're not getting Master Chief.
Didn't Socom: US Navy Seals launch with voice chat months before XBox Live came around? That game was pretty successful and the online was free if I remember correctly.
Yep. It came out 3 months before Xbox Live. Pretty innovative game, as it also had voice commands through the headset.
I would say that Live was the first unified online platform with voice, so it's a bit different than this game sports such and such voice chat client.
When 360 came out with Live baked right into the OS, it seriously caught Sony with their pants down. They couldn't integrate cross-game chat because it wasn't planned from the beginning.
PS2's slipshoddy online to Xbox Live is no comparison. And for anyone buying a system in the first few years (like me), there was no online play at all. And then they released that ethernet gadget add-on (which I remember being $60-70 here in Canada), and then later on had ethernet built into the system. I don't know how many people played PS2 online, but out of every person I knew who had a PS2 (lots), not one person played online.
All the while, the handful of people I knew with Xbox OG, were loving modded HDDs with Genesis and SNES games and playing online. Was pretty snazzy to see the system in action at their homes.
Even Dreamcast had built in modem play. Although the system was dated, even Dreamcast's attempt at unifying gamers with systems having a built in modem (around 1999) preceded both. Dreamcast even had a webcam with a mic so you could to talk to people (released in Japan).
Xbox Live is still the best console online since it came out in late 2002.
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I still have a Saturn with Netlink and a Dreamcast with broadband adapter.
Xbox Live was like building upon what Sega started, to me. Like a spiritual successor, in a lot of ways.I still have a Saturn with Netlink and a Dreamcast with broadband adapter.
Sega was such an awesome company before they disintegrated. Their failure is proof that the majority of gamers are idiots.
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