Naughtydog, Their Game Design Is Outdated… And Others

Using the exact same open world is, imo, more of the same than a game that changes out all the levels.
But, gears prob fit into the same genre as NDs games, as in semi outdated.
It's not the exact same though, it's roughly twice as big and the existing areas have been upgraded as well.
 
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You're just spewing s*** now. Who pretends Gears isn't the same thing? Dragging Gears into this.... Hilarious.
Why are some people such babies? I'm talking about gaming in general and used gears as an example because it's one you guys will understand. Halo isn't much different from game to game either, before the reboot god of war followed the same formula from game to game as well and Ragnarök just improved on things over God of War 2018 so they are now following the newer formula they've started. That's how gaming works and always has, it's just funny to me how xbox fans think they make some kind of point talking about Spider-Man 2 when every franchise that every company puts out is guilty of the same thing.
 
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Why are some people such babies? I'm talking about gaming in general and used gears as an example because it's one you guys will understand. Halo isn't much different from game to game either, before the reboot god of war followed the same formula from game to game as well and Ragnarök just improved on things over God of War 2018 so they are now following the newer formula they've started. That's how gaming works and always has, it's just funny to me how xbox fans think they make some kind of point talking about Spider-Man 2 when every franchise that every company puts out is guilty of the same thing.
Spider-Man has used the same world for 6 years and 3 games.

Halo hasn't done that.
Gears hasn't done that.
Can't think of any game that has done that in recent memory.

It is the only reason Insomniac has made 4 games in 6 years.

No surprise you defended it by poorly comparing to Xbox games, though.
 
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Spider-Man has used the same world for 6 years and 3 games.

Halo hasn't done that.
Gears hasn't done that.
Can't think of any game that has done that in recent memory.

It is the only reason Insomniac has made 4 games in 6 years.

No surprise you defended it by poorly comparing to Xbox games, though.
Cod mp?
 
Doing the same or similar isn't necessarily a bad thing ... Many people enjoy it and that's why it's still successful , just look at all the remakes / reiterations of the popular IPs. How many times has people raced the same tracks in forza, gt, Mario Kart racing or play the same maps in battlefields , counterstrike , cod or play the same teams in NBA 2k, Fifa , NHL year after year yet they are still the most popular games annually. There is a reason for that and it is because it's still fun and enjoyable with updated visuals while feeling familiar.

Sure there are times when games change it up and it's appreciated like FF16 and Alan wake 2, baldurs gate 3. But as much as some say it feels like the same, people don't like change all at once and there is nothing wrong with that.
 
It's not the exact same though, it's roughly twice as big and the existing areas have been upgraded as well.

Plus when you enter ducts into buildings , those are all new areas as well. They also kept improving the gameplay and added new mechanics where you can now travel across water into Queens and Brooklyn.
 
Doing the same or similar isn't necessarily a bad thing ... Many people enjoy it and that's why it's still successful , just look at all the remakes / reiterations of the popular IPs. How many times has people raced the same tracks in forza, gt, Mario Kart racing or play the same maps in battlefields , counterstrike , cod or play the same teams in NBA 2k, Fifa , NHL year after year yet they are still the most popular games annually. There is a reason for that and it is because it's still fun and enjoyable with updated visuals while feeling familiar.

Sure there are times when games change it up and it's appreciated like FF16 and Alan wake 2, baldurs gate 3. But as much as some say it feels like the same, people don't like change all at once and there is nothing wrong with that.
Funny how the 2 fanboys of the platform known for these crappy things are the 2 most dogged defenders of it. Lolz.
 
Funny how the 2 fanboys of the platform known for these crappy things are the 2 most dogged defenders of it. Lolz.

Just as funny is everyone else who is attacking Spiderman 2 is also a Xbox fanboy. Funny how that works eh ? 😜
 
It's Sunday and I'm off, why we are we doing this? No one attacking S2 from what I see. I still want to play it at some point. And I think racing games and mp maps are a poor example of this. People play these over again to get better at them and more strategic.
 
It's Sunday and I'm off, why we are we doing this? No one attacking S2 from what I see. I still want to play it at some point. And I think racing games and mp maps are a poor example of this. People play these over again to get better at them and more strategic.

Because people are bored I guess and want to start discussions.

Pretty sure calling Spiderman 2 a DLC and using the same map as the first as if nothing else has changed is not something you would deem positive lol. They don't mention Rift Apart was also released during this time period so instead of praising studios that are actually super efficient at their job, they talk down on it. What's funny is some of these people probably never played the first , miles and Spiderman 2 yet talk like they know 😅
 
Because people are bored I guess and want to start discussions.

Pretty sure calling Spiderman 2 a DLC and using the same map as the first as if nothing else has changed is not something you would deem positive lol. They don't mention Rift Apart was also released during this time period so instead of praising studios that are actually super efficient at their job, they talk down on it. What's funny is some of these people probably never played the first , miles and Spiderman 2 yet talk like they know 😅
I don't think it's attacking in my opinion. But that's sort of hypocritical when posts are constantly going up about various other titles and consoles. 🤷‍♂️
 
I don't think it's attacking in my opinion. But that's sort of hypocritical when posts are constantly going up about various other titles and consoles. 🤷‍♂️

Because the other titles from other platforms also do the same.

Tears of the Kingdom used the same exact map as Breath of the Wild. Notice this was never brought up by the same people who are saying the same about Spiderman 2. Do they call TotK a DLC as well and downplay it's GOTY quality ? No. Because they are playing console wars rhetoric instead of these actual games because if they did, they wouldn't say what they said.

Like I said, there is an entirely new story within Spiderman 2 / TLOU . The city is double the size. There's new visual updates and more density and new inside areas. Same people who think these are outdated still play the crap out of other games who do the same like the ones I have mentioned. That's being hypocritical.
 
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Because the other titles from other platforms also do the same.

Tears of the Kingdom used the same exact map as Breath of the Wild. Notice this was never brought up by the same people who are saying the same about Spiderman 2. Do they call TotK a DLC as well and downplay it's GOTY quality ? No. Because they are playing console wars rhetoric instead of these actual games because if they did, they wouldn't say what they said.

Like I said, there is an entirely new story within Spiderman 2 / TLOU . The city is double the size. There's new visual updates and more density and new inside areas. Same people who think these are outdated still play the crap out of other games who do the same like the ones I have mentioned. That's being hypocritical.
I'm talking about the attacking part, not what is a remake. I'm over that argument :)
 
Because the other titles from other platforms also do the same.

Tears of the Kingdom used the same exact map as Breath of the Wild. Notice this was never brought up by the same people who are saying the same about Spiderman 2. Do they call TotK a DLC as well and downplay it's GOTY quality ? No. Because they are playing console wars rhetoric instead of these actual games because if they did, they wouldn't say what they said.

Like I said, there is an entirely new story within Spiderman 2 / TLOU . The city is double the size. There's new visual updates and more density and new inside areas. Same people who think these are outdated still play the crap out of other games who do the same like the ones I have mentioned. That's being hypocritical.
Have you played Zelda BOTW and TOTK? My wife has beaten both said even though the games take place in the same world maps/games were different. Get new material you obviously have no clue what you’re talking about, but what else is new…
 
I'm talking about the attacking part, not what is a remake. I'm over that argument :)

Well, carry on then :p

Have you played Zelda BOTW and TOTK? My wife has beaten both said even though the games take place in the same world maps/games were different. Get new material you obviously have no clue what you’re talking about, but what else is new…

Thanks for making my point even more valid lol. Exactly what I'm saying, if you haven't played them yet why are you criticizing and saying it's DLC despite improving on the map size and other parts of the game.
 
Well, carry on then :p



Thanks for making my point even more valid lol. Exactly what I'm saying, if you haven't played them yet why are you criticizing and saying it's DLC despite improving on the map size and other parts of the game.
These are the same people who think Halo's aren't the same when most of them have similar looking levels from game to game. Which is totally fine btw but that's just how gaming works.
 
Yeah, I never really thought U3 was great... it certainly wasn't bad, but the only thing I remember about that game is the yetis lol.
I bought a PS4 for U4...I played until you reached that pirate town and shut it off and sold my PS4, again, not a bad game, but the series felt stale at that point (even with the super innovative winch lol).
Now, TLOU was prob the best PS exclusive on the PS3 for me, part 2 I couldn't bother with after what they did to Joel.... it did get the gameplay to be semi okay though (TLOU had mediocre gameplay imo, the story and production value made that game).
They should make something new if they want my attention again.

I had way too much fun with the 4wd parts in U4 and lost legacy.
 
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