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It’s official, well, not quite, but, when it’s in the Wall Street Journal, you’d be comfortable saying something is official. Nintendo’s next console, dubbed NX, will be a hybrid home/portable console. Thanks to NintendoLife.com, and the Wall Street Journal, and this family with the last name “Sources” that always seem to be the ones that know everything, Nintendo’s NX will connect to your TV at home while having at least one “module” that you’ll be able to take on the road with you, “People familiar with the development plans said Nintendo would likely include both a console and at least one mobile unit that could either be used in conjunction with the console or taken on the road for separate use,” says the Wall Street Journal.

A hybrid system is an interesting concept. The mobile gaming market, once completely dominated by Nintendo, has given way to pick up and put down smartphone games. How the mobile unit will come into play will be one to watch. Smartphones are getting faster and have graphics that easily surpass what the Wii U is capable of in some games. Where smartphones lack when it comes to gaming are intuitive controls. That's why Nintendo's DX is still a capable device. Having said that, mobile gaming industry has permanently changed because of smartphones, will Nintendo's NX be able to compete in gaming sector?

Under the hood, NX is supposed to have “industry leading chips.” That’s all well, and good, but, what industry? The PlayStation 4, and Xbox One, are using mobile processors. Will Nintendo go that route as well? The hardware of the NX should be pretty close to finished. Whatever is under the hood will be there for the production model. We’re a year out from when I believe the NX will launch in the US, holiday 2016. In order to meet that date the hardware innards need to be finalized by now so developers know what they’re dealing with.

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Will Nintendo’s NX surpass the PlayStation 4, or Xbox One, in terms of graphics? I’m not sure. Obviously, it will be a step above the Wii U. I’m torn between hoping that Nintendo finally takes back the reins as the tope graphics console like they have been in the past, but, their recent past makes me highly skeptical. It’s been a while since Nintendo was top dog in terms of graphics. I think the SNES was the last time. The OG PlayStation came out before the Nintendo 64.

I hope I see a meaner Nintendo looking to take back the top spot that the Wii surprisingly occupied last gen. I don’t want it to be because of a niche that happens to catch fire. I want it to happen because I want the NX to be the baddest console on the market that makes people’s jaws drop. I liked the Zelda tech demo Nintendo had in 2011 to “show” what the Wii U was supposed to achieve graphics wise. If they can give me those graphics, with a little more magic dust, at 1080p30, rock solid, I’ll buy NX on day ONE!

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Interesting. I don't care about mobile games; I don't game on the go; and I don't like their focus on peripherals, so this hybrid approach doesn't do much for me. I'd rather they focus on the console. However, Nintendo will be Nintendo.
 
So WiiDS?

I'm also hoping Nintendo comes out guns blazing with this new console. And have Zelda be a launch title.
 
So it's a Wii U 2 which takes the hybrid concept one step further, moving the game pad out of the living room and onto the sidewalk. If so, the NX will be underpowered again. This game pad thing will be expensive and they'll have to once again cut the cost on the main unit's hardware.
 
4k 120fps or bust.

That way we can say all ps4 are a blurry mess at 1080p :p
 
I really think with as much talk from Nintendo about how mobile phone games are eating into their profits that Nintendo is going to troll us all with an Android-based game streaming device with an HDMI port on the back.
 
Their handhelds have always been at the level of the previous gen console hardware or there about.

Game Boy = NES
Game Boy Advance = SNES
DS = N64
3DS = Gamecube
Mobile NX = Wii U???

Is it a hybrid?

Is it two distinct machines that share the same OS and architecture?

Will the home machine match the PS4/XB1?

Is it a hand held that streams wirelessly to your TV like I speculated in the other thread?

I think it will be a handheld that can stream to a TV through a Chromecast-like HDMI dongle.

GBA form factor, not dual screen, imagine a device that is just the bottom half of the new 3DS. About as powerful as a Wii U or maybe a little bit more. Games on SD cards (existing DS and 3DS games cards will plug in and work when streamed to a TV for the second screen) and digital downloads.

Also plays their phone games on the *gasp* capacitive touch screen.

Virtual Nintendo console library line up of NES, SNES, Gameboy, GBA, N64, Gamecube, DS, 3DS, Wii and Wii U games ready at launch. When laid flat in front of the TV it becomes a Wii sensor bar so you can use the Wii remote and nunchuck for Wii games on your TV. DS, 3DS and Wii U function works when streaming to a TV as you have dual screens - the TV and the handheld. NFC for Amiibo is in there as well.

Basically, the Wii U gamepad done right as you can take it anywhere and it is every Nintendo system ever in one (except Virtual Boy).

£150

Come get me Reggie!

PS. I haven't figured out the critical local multiplayer component yet other than, 'err, everyone bring your NX round and we will wirelessly link them....'

Or battery life.

Or how it will be profitable.

Or the name...

Nintendo KS (kitchen sink)

I'm almost certainly wrong about everything and Nintendo will surprise us all.
 
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Technically, they need to top the current consoles for sure.
 
Technically, they need to top the current consoles for sure.

I doubt very much if topping current consoles is even on the table for Nintendo. If they are going with AMD for a GPU (likely) I think the very highest they will aim for is 1 TFLOP or around Xbox One level. Nintendo always seem to be quite weak on the CPU front as well even though this is probably the easiest spec to beat against Jaguar this time round.

I just cannot imagine Nintendo announcing a new console with a 2 TFLOP GPU in it, regardless if that is now the industry's 'low end'.
 
I plucked this from another forum:

Hi guys. i have a NON CONFIRMED, but strong, Nintendo NX Hardware LEAK:

SoC
- developed by AMD, hoped in 20nm
- 6 Core ARM Cortex A57 1,8Ghz
- 10 CUs GCN 1.x, one of them deactivated by redundancy, 9 effective CUs at 720Mhz
- 1 Core ARMv8 with crypto functions, at charge of SoC Security
- 128MB eDRAM (ScratchPad-GPU VRAM)
- 35W TDP target. If 28nm needed by eDRAM, 45W TDP target.


- 8GB RAM DDR4-3DS, dual-channel
- SDCard reader, 2xUSB3.0
- 32GB FLASH Storage, expandable by USB3.0 and/or SD
- No internal HDD. No internal optical disk drive. The games will be by SD or digital.
- The games will be bind to a new and future Nintendo Network ID (NNID)
- Second hand market, unkown
- Target Price: 150USD with REGULAR GAMEPAD (not WiiU Pad style, gamepad pro style instead)


Also, i have another NON CONFIRMED LEAK about the current NINTENDO NX SDK distributed to thirds one week ago:
- i7-5775C Based.
- No discrete GPU, uses the i7-5775C IRIS PRO embedded GPU
- Graphics part of SDK is vulkan-inspired
- Seems that Nintendo choose that CPU for a primary version of SDK by the 128MB eDRAM, easy accesible and programable by the GPU.
 
I plucked this from another forum:

Hi guys. i have a NON CONFIRMED, but strong, Nintendo NX Hardware LEAK:

SoC
- developed by AMD, hoped in 20nm
- 6 Core ARM Cortex A57 1,8Ghz
- 10 CUs GCN 1.x, one of them deactivated by redundancy, 9 effective CUs at 720Mhz
- 1 Core ARMv8 with crypto functions, at charge of SoC Security
- 128MB eDRAM (ScratchPad-GPU VRAM)
- 35W TDP target. If 28nm needed by eDRAM, 45W TDP target.


- 8GB RAM DDR4-3DS, dual-channel
- SDCard reader, 2xUSB3.0
- 32GB FLASH Storage, expandable by USB3.0 and/or SD
- No internal HDD. No internal optical disk drive. The games will be by SD or digital.
- The games will be bind to a new and future Nintendo Network ID (NNID)
- Second hand market, unkown
- Target Price: 150USD with REGULAR GAMEPAD (not WiiU Pad style, gamepad pro style instead)


Also, i have another NON CONFIRMED LEAK about the current NINTENDO NX SDK distributed to thirds one week ago:
- i7-5775C Based.
- No discrete GPU, uses the i7-5775C IRIS PRO embedded GPU
- Graphics part of SDK is vulkan-inspired
- Seems that Nintendo choose that CPU for a primary version of SDK by the 128MB eDRAM, easy accesible and programable by the GPU.
Does it beast?
 
I plucked this from another forum:

Hi guys. i have a NON CONFIRMED, but strong, Nintendo NX Hardware LEAK:

SoC
- developed by AMD, hoped in 20nm
- 6 Core ARM Cortex A57 1,8Ghz
- 10 CUs GCN 1.x, one of them deactivated by redundancy, 9 effective CUs at 720Mhz
- 1 Core ARMv8 with crypto functions, at charge of SoC Security
- 128MB eDRAM (ScratchPad-GPU VRAM)
- 35W TDP target. If 28nm needed by eDRAM, 45W TDP target.


- 8GB RAM DDR4-3DS, dual-channel
- SDCard reader, 2xUSB3.0
- 32GB FLASH Storage, expandable by USB3.0 and/or SD
- No internal HDD. No internal optical disk drive. The games will be by SD or digital.
- The games will be bind to a new and future Nintendo Network ID (NNID)
- Second hand market, unkown
- Target Price: 150USD with REGULAR GAMEPAD (not WiiU Pad style, gamepad pro style instead)


Also, i have another NON CONFIRMED LEAK about the current NINTENDO NX SDK distributed to thirds one week ago:
- i7-5775C Based.
- No discrete GPU, uses the i7-5775C IRIS PRO embedded GPU
- Graphics part of SDK is vulkan-inspired
- Seems that Nintendo choose that CPU for a primary version of SDK by the 128MB eDRAM, easy accesible and programable by the GPU.
If true, the NX's CPU is probably weaker than the one in the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 which has an 8-core ARM Cortex CPU (4 Cortex A57 and 4 Cortex A53 cores) running at 2.1 Ghz. GPU is also weak compared to Xbox One which has 12 CUs @ 853 Mhz.
 
Technically, they need to top the current consoles for sure.

Yeah I was thinking this might be a 2017 launch, which would make the already extremely outdated current gen ancient by then.
 
Whatever the NX ends up being, the more important issue for me is Nintendo's direction in terms of software.

Great hardware needs great gaming experiences. They need to cater to their fans and everyone else.

Was there a big demand for yet another Mario sports game that I'm unaware of?
 
I didn't get a Wii U, but I have loved all the Mario sports games that I played on N64, GameCube and Wii. I don't know whether that would group me with fans or with everyone else, as I don't usually buy the core Mario games.

But like anyone, I would love to see Nintendo invest more of their considerable talent as well as other resources, into more new IPs.

NX sounds unusual but if the portable aspect is truly portable, rather than a crappy Wii U tablet, I'd probably be keen. I got more use out of the GBA and DS than I did out of the GC or Wii. Mostly gaming on public transport or on long haul flights.
 
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Takashi Mochizuki, in response to NintenGen requesting some clarification on the “Industry Leading” chips claim, explained:Hello David,
The quick answer is “I don’t know.” Sorry!
-Several people who said who have seen a demo said what they saw is impossible to run on a computer without a “industry-leading” or “cutting-edge” chips. Cutting-edge in what way, they refused to elaborate.
-And an important thing to remember, probably you know well already, is that chip specs won’t be finalized until much closer date to the release.
hope this helps, and plz ask me follow-up questions if you have.
thanks,
Nintendo NX news: more powerful console reportedly requires computers with 'industry leading' chips

Angie C. 21 October, 2015 7:32 AM
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Could a 'Super Mario Galaxy 3' come when Nintendo NX comes? It is likely that Nintendo NX could only be run with "industry leading" or "cutting edge" chips indicating that the new gaming system could set the new standards for gaming when it is released.
The information came from Wall Street Journal's Takashi Mochizuki, who reported that he had sources that that the tech demos being set out to third party developers require cutting edge chips in order to run.
According to a separate report, the software development kits have already been shipped to the third-party publishers for the NX to work on the software for the gaming system.
"Several people who said who have seen a demo said what they saw is impossible to run on a computer without a "industry-leading" or "cutting-edge" chips. Cutting-edge in what way, they refused to elaborate. And an important thing to remember, probably you know well already, is that chip specs won't be finalized until much closer date to the release," he was quoted as saying byStuff.co.
This, according to Mochizuki, was an interesting development since it has been a while since Nintendo actively competed on the hardware front since it launched the Game Cube. The Wii was also less powerful than its contemporaries. This might have prompted Nintendo to up the ante this time around.
Meanwhile, a report by Wii U Daily indicated a possibility that the NX would have a mobile unit similar to the Game Pad which could function as a console on its own.
Nintendo has not yet released official information about the hybrid handheld/console system but it is expected that the company will release a statement about its top secret project by next year.
Speculations are also rife that the reported hybrid gaming system will be released in 2016 as well.
Read more: http://wccftech.com/nintendos-nx-wil...#ixzz3pEDjMTXE
 
Whatever the NX ends up being, the more important issue for me is Nintendo's direction in terms of software.

Great hardware needs great gaming experiences. They need to cater to their fans and everyone else.

Don't worry about it. Nintendo is going to deliver with the NX. I can feel it coming in the air tonight.

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