PC gaming brings in more $ then consoles.

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"But all PC gamers do is pirate games and they are bad for the industry blah blah blah blah /consolefanboy"
 
I've been saying for the longest that there are more pc gamers, and I'm not talking about facebook type gaming.

Console gaming's biggest numbers come from some top shooters, and even the most play console shooter (CoD) is beat out in amount of players by the most played pc game.

WoW alone demolishes console gaming.
 
I've been saying for the longest that there are more pc gamers, and I'm not talking about facebook type gaming.
It's Facebook type gaming, along with MOBAs, that are the driving force behind the growth.
MOBAs, free-to-play games driving growth among core gamers.

As far as more FPS shooters on PC than consoles, right now there's 78,000 people on Battlefield 4 on consoles and 25,000 on PC playing. I can't find CoD stats.
 
Whats MOBAs?

Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS) or Hero Brawler, is a sub-genre of the real-time strategy (RTS) genre of video games, in which often two teams of players compete with each other in discrete games, with each player controlling a single character through an RTS-style interface. It differs from traditional RTS games in that there is no unit construction and players control just one character. In this sense, it is a fusion of action gamesand real-time strategy games. The genre emphasizes cooperative team-play; players select and control one "hero", a powerful unit with various abilities and advantages to form a team's overall strategy. The objective is to destroy the opponents' main structure with the assistance of periodically spawned computer-controlled units that march towards the enemy's main structure via paths referred to as "lanes".

The genre traces its roots to Aeon of Strife (AoS), a custom map for StarCraft[1] where four players each controlling a single powerful unit and aided by weak computer-controlled units were put against a stronger computer-controlled faction.[2] Defense of the Ancients (DotA), a map based on Aeon of Strife for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne, was one of the first major titles of its genre and the first MOBA for which has been kept sponsored tournaments.[2] It was followed by the two spiritual successors League of Legends and Heroes of Newerth, and eventually a sequel, Dota 2, as well as numerous other games in the genre.

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All da pc elitists be like "water is wet".

While everyone else be like "but PC don't count".
 
It's Facebook type gaming, along with MOBAs, that are the driving force behind the growth.


As far as more FPS shooters on PC than consoles, right now there's 78,000 people on Battlefield 4 on consoles and 25,000 on PC playing. I can't find CoD stats.

You don't want to find CoD stats anyway as CoD has shifted more towards a console game after CoD4 on PC as they just straight ported them to PC from console after CoD4.
 
Only for a few games. It's no secret that most multiplatform games fare better on consoles, unless you are talking about Diablo 3 or something.
 
As far as more FPS shooters on PC than consoles, right now there's 78,000 people on Battlefield 4 on consoles and 25,000 on PC playing. I can't find CoD stats.
That's because console peasants don't have jobs and can play at this time of day. :eek:
 
Not really surprising when you think of WoW and all those games that have tons and tons of players.
 
There are money to be made with mobile gaming, money to be made on casual/social games, money to be made on PC games, on console. The industry is healthy. The one thing that is unhealthy is the high turnover & layoff.

There is also no better time to jump in, as tools are getting better, more accessible than ever, & resources are never more plentiful.
 
Typical game. BF4.

At this very moment there are more PS4 players online playing BF4 than there are on PC. Very close, but around 40kPS4>36k PC.

Now lets look at a f***ing anomaly.

League of Legends: 7 million peak players.

For comparison sake, lets take another PC giant. DOTA 2: 700k peak players in a month. Absolutely dwarfed by LoL.

Then you factor in Zynga-esque games and it's easy to see why PC gaming is the current juggernaut. A single game absolutely annihilates two consoles on it's own, I'd imagine this has been the case for a while now but analyst probably weren't totally factoring in all F2P, browser games and MMO's.
 
Better graphics, performance, mod support, game variety, and freedom too much to handle?

Owned.

He's probably still trying to figure out how to connect to his wireless network on his PC with Windows 8, so of course it's too much to handle.
 
Now I remember why I got away from PC gaming. The people who gravitate to it are unbearable.

Yea were so much worse than immature 10 year Olds screaming at the top of their lungs on xbox live and psn
 
It's Facebook type gaming, along with MOBAs, that are the driving force behind the growth.


As far as more FPS shooters on PC than consoles, right now there's 78,000 people on Battlefield 4 on consoles and 25,000 on PC playing. I can't find CoD stats.


For the BF4 numbers, you're looking at one platform, and comparing up against multiple platforms....not totally fair.
As of right now, there are more people playing on pc than on any other console other than PS4.
Right now, there are 120k people playing CS:GO on steam...almost as much people playing on pc, than all platforms combined for BF4. WoW alone generates more money than any console game. TF2 has 53k people playing right now....that's about 10k more than BF4 on PS4 (most played on console). There are more people playing ARMA 3 on pc than BF4 on XB1.
There are about as many playing BF3 on pc as on PS3, I won't even bring up how little are playing on 360.
The biggest numbers of gamers on console are CoD, BF, and Halo. After that, numbers start to drop by a lot. Older games die off really quick, while on pc, people still play older games (example, more on pc playing BC2).


People sleep on pc gaming, and make these claims that most are only playing facebook type gaming and MOBAs, which is not true. Consoles make money on the top "dude bro" games, but pc makes money on a larger variety of games, and totals to more gamers than console gamers.
 
For the BF4 numbers, you're looking at one platform, and comparing up against multiple platforms....not totally fair.
As of right now, there are more people playing on pc than on any other console other than PS4.
Right now, there are 120k people playing CS:GO on steam...almost as much people playing on pc, than all platforms combined for BF4. WoW alone generates more money than any console game. TF2 has 53k people playing right now....that's about 10k more than BF4 on PS4 (most played on console). There are more people playing ARMA 3 on pc than BF4 on XB1.
There are about as many playing BF3 on pc as on PS3, I won't even bring up how little are playing on 360.
The biggest numbers of gamers on console are CoD, BF, and Halo. After that, numbers start to drop by a lot. Older games die off really quick, while on pc, people still play older games (example, more on pc playing BC2).


People sleep on pc gaming, and make these claims that most are only playing facebook type gaming and MOBAs, which is not true. Consoles make money on the top "dude bro" games, but pc makes money on a larger variety of games, and totals to more gamers than console gamers.

There's console sales and there's PC sales. The PC install base is massively more than all consoles put together for the past 15 years. Many people have multiple systems and would have to buy multiple copies of the game, which people don't hence you combine the numbers. But anyway, Battlefield 4 sold less on the PC than any console and it's 8-1 when combining console sales vs. PC sales. BF3 got trounced by consoles last generation, 4-1 and 3-1 going 360 vs. PC and PS3 vs. PC.

Making a claim that most are not only playing Facebook games and MOBAs is fine but THOSE are the ones making money on PCs. CS:GO may have 120K players but it's making absolutely zero money. If people buy it now it's $15 and most have it. I'd be new sales are pretty much nothing. The games that are driving the PC game sales numbers are MOBAs and f2p games as stated in the news piece above.
 
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You cannot consider the PC a single platform, EVER. It's not. There's console sales and there's PC sales. Many people have multiple systems and would have to buy multiple copies of the game, which people don't hence you combine the numbers. But anyway, Battlefield 4 sold less on the PC than any console and it's 8-1 when combining console sales vs. PC sales. BF3 got trounced by consoles last generation, 4-1 and 3-1 going 360 vs. PC and PS3 vs. PC.

Making a claim that most are not only playing Facebook games and MOBAs is fine but THOSE are the ones making money on PCs. CS:GO may have 120K players but it's making absolutely zero money. If people buy it now it's $15 and most have it. I'd be new sales are pretty much nothing. The games that are driving the PC game sales numbers are MOBAs and f2p games as stated in the news piece above.


Where do you get your numbers from? You do know that digital sales numbers are not released, right?

And why can't we count pc as a single platform? There's one "pc" version of games, there's multiple versions, of let's say BF4, on console. Why pit one pc platform up against all consoles? Again, it's not fair. There's ps4, ps4, xb1, 360, Wii, etc.


And you ignored the WoW comment. WoW alone trounces any console game in terms of sales.


Saying most pc game revenues comes from facebook and MOBAs is no different than saying most console revenue comes from CoD. tit for tat.






Outside of that, the PC market is supported by "a nice mix of MMO, strategy, and first-person shooter" games, Cole said.
 
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Where do you get your numbers from? You do know that digital sales numbers are not released, right?

And why can't we count pc as a single platform? There's one "pc" version of games, there's multiple versions, of let's say BF4, on console. Why pit one pc platform up against all consoles? Again, it's not fair. There's ps4, ps4, xb1, 360, Wii, etc.
I edited my post as it didn't come out as I meant it to.

Sales were from the much ballyhooed VG Charts. I'm sure the numbers are not accurate but I'd say they're close enough.

Who cares how many different consoles there are? Almost every person buys a game once. You claim it's not fair to combine console sales, which it most certainly is, but make no mention of the hundreds of millions more PCs there are than consoles.

As I said earlier, people playing on the PC means absolutely nothing with regards to PC game sales since people play games for years since many games have longevity.

As stated, as evident in the story above, the surge in PC game sales is driven by MOBAs and f2p games like those on Facebook.
 
& steam I believe. Anyway, this is good for the industry. I do not see why we need to get to which is better then the other.
 
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