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2 Republicans won while being under indictment. Can we stop with the right being for law and order now.
 
Collins winning was just gross. The guy is guilty as hell and everyone knows it. They have texts and voicemails that they already released with the guy telling his family to sell stock.

Yet he runs BS attack ads on McMurray and wins. McMurray is going to take your guns and outsource your jobs... total bullhonk. Collins is literally looking at jail time.

What's worse is we got to see all these nasty and lying ads but couldn't vote because we're all stuck in a blue district. NY is a state that Hillary still won big in 2016 and is about as blue as they come, yet they can still win seats by these gerrymandered districts. There's simply no way Republicans winning in NY is representative of the people.
 
NYT still has Scott/Nelson at close to 50/50 odds for whatever reason. Can we just stop letting Florida vote?
 
The events of yesterday must of gave the baby in chief some bad diaper rash.
 
This is what the "acting" ag wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html

Mueller's investigation of Trump is going too far
(CNN)Last month, when President Donald Trump was asked by The New York Times if special counsel Robert Mueller would be crossing a line if he started investigating the finances of Trump and his family, the President said, "I think that's a violation. Look, this is about Russia."​
The President is absolutely correct. Mueller has come up to a red line in the Russia 2016 election-meddling investigation that he is dangerously close to crossing.​
According to a CNN article, Mueller's investigators could be looking into financial records relating to the Trump Organization that are unrelated to the 2016 election. According to these reports, "sources described an investigation that has widened to focus on possible financial crimes, some unconnected to the 2016 election." The piece goes on to cite law enforcement sources who say non-Russia-related leads that "involve Trump associates" are being referred to the special counsel "to encourage subjects of the investigation to cooperate."​
This information is deeply concerning to me. It does not take a lawyer or even a former federal prosecutor like myself to conclude that investigating Donald Trump's finances or his family's finances falls completely outside of the realm of his 2016 campaign and allegations that the campaign coordinated with the Russian government or anyone else. That goes beyond the scope of the appointment of the special counsel.​
 
So is that a good result for the democrats? I assume so with the house win, but I don't understand how it works down there. Were they expecting to flip senate too ?
 
So is that a good result for the democrats? I assume so with the house win, but I don't understand how it works down there. Were they expecting to flip senate too ?

They were defending most of the seats so flipping the senate was unlikely. To put into perspective they won the senate popular vote by 12 points but lose seats. A -3 result would be worse than expected although there is still a chance it might not be that much. A good but not great night.
 
This is what the "acting" ag wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html

Mueller's investigation of Trump is going too far
(CNN)Last month, when President Donald Trump was asked by The New York Times if special counsel Robert Mueller would be crossing a line if he started investigating the finances of Trump and his family, the President said, "I think that's a violation. Look, this is about Russia."​
The President is absolutely correct. Mueller has come up to a red line in the Russia 2016 election-meddling investigation that he is dangerously close to crossing.​
According to a CNN article, Mueller's investigators could be looking into financial records relating to the Trump Organization that are unrelated to the 2016 election. According to these reports, "sources described an investigation that has widened to focus on possible financial crimes, some unconnected to the 2016 election." The piece goes on to cite law enforcement sources who say non-Russia-related leads that "involve Trump associates" are being referred to the special counsel "to encourage subjects of the investigation to cooperate."​
This information is deeply concerning to me. It does not take a lawyer or even a former federal prosecutor like myself to conclude that investigating Donald Trump's finances or his family's finances falls completely outside of the realm of his 2016 campaign and allegations that the campaign coordinated with the Russian government or anyone else. That goes beyond the scope of the appointment of the special counsel.​


She wrote something today as well on her site about the fact that the acting AG can't prevent sealed records from being unsealed; that's up to the judge who ordered the seal:

https://t.co/bZLQFMbLlB

(Which is linked in the tweek but who loves you, baby? This guy.)
 
The Arizona senate race will probably be decided by the 2.2% that voted for the green party candidate for some dumb reason.

That dem who ran seems to have been more of a republican than a democrat in many ways, they probably would have done better with someone a little more liberal, not far left but someone less like republican light.
 
That dem who ran seems to have been more of a republican than a democrat in many ways, they probably would have done better with someone a little more liberal, not far left but someone less like republican light.

Not sure if yesterdays results nationwide really back up that thinking. Moderate Democrats were the ones winning competitive races.
 
Not sure if yesterdays results nationwide really back up that thinking. Moderate Democrats were the ones winning competitive races.

More like Democrats running in districts that didn't have very large percentages of "white people without a college degree" in the voting pool. From what I remember of the 538 live blog as I skimmed through it, that urban/rural gap and the white folk without a degree thing was very indicative.

And I'm supremely unworried about the new acting AG. I mean, apparently he's a tool, but he can't be as evil as Jeff Sessions, and there's no way in hell Mueller didn't see this coming months ago - and the Watergate roadmap being unsealed certainly gave him yet another route to get information to the House, though I expect he'll continue to do his talking like good prosecutors do: with indictments and convictions.
 
  • House minority leader Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday that she would not support moving to impeach President Donald Trump if Democrats regain control of the House of Representatives following the midterm elections.

It's Wednesday. Stuff has changed. She needs to be asked again.
 
Not sure if yesterdays results nationwide really back up that thinking. Moderate Democrats were the ones winning competitive races.

Ojeda was in a 40 point trump district and got within about 12. Manchin won last time by about 20 points and this time about 5. I think we need to take a good hard look at all the races before we assume too much. One thing is for sure, the effect of gerrymandering and voter suppression was really obvious this election.
 
Only the best people. (Shocked he didn't get his law degree from Trump University)
 
Ojeda was in a 40 point trump district and got within about 12. Manchin won last time by about 20 points and this time about 5. I think we need to take a good hard look at all the races before we assume too much. One thing is for sure, the effect of gerrymandering and voter suppression was really obvious this election.

Any win in West Virginia by a Democrat is impressive. There is a reason he wins there.
 
Any win in West Virginia by a Democrat is impressive. There is a reason he wins there.

In his case yea maybe only a Republican lite dem can win there for now at least. I want to take a look at the demographics of his votes i wonder if there is a lack of younger voters makes it harder to win with a more liberal candidate or if its just the area.

The people want single payer health care and money out of politics which are further left policies so what keeps people from voting a further left candidate. Is it bad messaging and/or the mainstream media vilifying the far left.
 
In his case yea maybe only a Republican lite dem can win there for now at least. I want to take a look at the demographics of his votes i wonder if there is a lack of younger voters makes it harder to win with a more liberal candidate or if its just the area.

The people want single payer health care and money out of politics which are further left policies so what keeps people from voting a further left candidate. Is it bad messaging and/or the mainstream media vilifying the far left.

Well Trump won the state by 40 points. Nothing great about Manchin but its the best you are going to get there. Certainly don't want anyone like him near anything close to a more competitive state though.
 
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