The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!

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P!NK really let herself go
 
You are giving him too much credit

I disagree. I think too many underestimate him, and that's why he has gotten this far.

Nobody in the military or even the white house has a clue about any changes to transgenders in the military. That means he just came up with it.

This is the perfect issue. The people who voted for him will defend him. Everyone else is offended by his obvious stupidity. Trump doesn't care about transgenders in the military. Nobody does. Actually nobody did. Now everyone does.

Look at the front page of Reuters politics section (at least at the moment).

Trump's stupid tweet is story #1, pushing heathcare and Russia off to the side. Which is exactly what Trump wants.

http://www.reuters.com/politics

He can't win on policy. He never has had one good idea. So, what does he do? Come up with a better idea? Nope... he steers the narrative, often to minorities.

Just look at what he did in the primary. Not the general election, but in the primary he took an issue nobody wanted to talk about and said "build a wall". Here we are, no wall, but did his strategy not work?
 
He'll have to run out of groups to offend eventually.

Soon, he'll just be threatening to ban nachos and spray tans.
 
Even Shepard Smith of Fox News is calling Trump out on his bulls***.



Shepard Smith has been the only voice of reason (sometimes Chris Wallace is alright) at Fox for years, of course he's the news guy so he's a bit more grounded than most of the talking heads who are on the network.
 
#blocktrump is trending.

People want to make Trump the most blocked person on Twitter.

I wish whoever has the @DonaldTrump account would post s*** like CEOKaz. That would be redonkulously awesome
 
Now we know why scummucci was brought in. He's playing the part as someone crazier than orangeutang and distract.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/27/politics/scaramucci-lizza-quotes-ranked/index.html

12. "The lie detector starts..."
Lizza reports that Scaramucci broke off this thought without finishing it -- amid a broader rant about how leakers had broken the law. This quote is like Kwame Brown -- so much upside, unrealized.

11. "OK, the Mooch showed up a week ago. This is going to get cleaned up very shortly, OK."
Nothing truly damaging here but a) the fact that Scaramucci referred to himself in the third person and b) called himself "the Mooch" is truly amazing.

10. "Yeah, let me go, though, because I've gotta start tweeting some s*** to make this guy crazy."
This was Scaramucci's sign-off with Lizza. As Lizza notes, Scaramucci then sent the tweet about leaking his financial disclosure -- a tweet in which he tagged Priebus. This quote then puts to lie Scaramucci's explanation that he tagged Priebus in the tweet to show it was a united front against the leakers.

9. "I've done nothing wrong on my financial disclosures, so they're going to have to go f*** themselves."
Not sure they're going to "have to" do that. I mean, it's certainly an option. But far from a necessity.

8. "Reince Priebus -- if you want to leak something -- he'll be asked to resign very shortly."
This would be a disastrous quote in any other circumstance. The new communications director telling a reporter that the chief of staff is going to resign! In this interview, it doesn't even come close to cracking the top five.

7. (tie) "What I'm going to do is, I will eliminate everyone in the comms team and we'll start over."
"I'm going to fire every one of them, and then you haven't protected anybody, so the entire place will be fired over the next two weeks."
"They'll all be fired by me. I fired one guy the other day. I have three to four people I'll fire tomorrow."
To pick a favorite among the "firing trio" is too hard. (It's like picking your favorite Sand Snake.) But, can you imagine Scaramucci showing up for work tomorrow and facing the staff? "Hey everybody, I know I told a reporter that I was going to fire all of you. But, you know, people say stuff, right? Who's with me?"
(crickets)

4. "You're an American citizen, this is a major catastrophe for the American country. So I'm asking you as an American patriot to give me a sense of who leaked it."
Any political reporter whose been at it for a while will tell you that attempts to guilt you into not writing something come in all shapes and sizes. But the appeal to patriotism is a new one -- especially when you consider that this isn't about classified intelligence. This is about Scaramucci having dinner with the President, the first lady and Sean Hannity.

3. "What I want to do is I want to f***ing kill all the leakers and I want to get the President's agenda on track so we can succeed for the American people."
Ok. So, here's the plan:

1. We kill everyone who leaked anything.
2. We succeed for the American people.
3. Resign in glory.

2. "I'm not Steve Bannon, I'm not trying to suck my own c***."
That this bit of insight into the White House chief strategist's flexibility isn't the number one most damaging thing that Scaramucci says is truly remarkable. It's like how James Harden didn't win the MVP because Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double.
It takes only a once-in-a-lifetime effort for this quote to be the runner-up.

1. "Reince is a f***ing paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoiac...'Let me leak the f***ing thing and see if I can c***-block these people the way I c***-blocked Scaramucci for six months.'"
There's so much here. The bashing of Priebus' state of mind. The imitating of Priebus. The words themselves. This is a hall-of-fame-type quote. And Scaramucci wasn't even supposed to start as communications director until August 15!​
 
Now we know why scummucci was brought in. He's playing the part as someone crazier than orangeutang and distract.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/27/politics/scaramucci-lizza-quotes-ranked/index.html

12. "The lie detector starts..."
Lizza reports that Scaramucci broke off this thought without finishing it -- amid a broader rant about how leakers had broken the law. This quote is like Kwame Brown -- so much upside, unrealized.

11. "OK, the Mooch showed up a week ago. This is going to get cleaned up very shortly, OK."
Nothing truly damaging here but a) the fact that Scaramucci referred to himself in the third person and b) called himself "the Mooch" is truly amazing.

10. "Yeah, let me go, though, because I've gotta start tweeting some s*** to make this guy crazy."
This was Scaramucci's sign-off with Lizza. As Lizza notes, Scaramucci then sent the tweet about leaking his financial disclosure -- a tweet in which he tagged Priebus. This quote then puts to lie Scaramucci's explanation that he tagged Priebus in the tweet to show it was a united front against the leakers.

9. "I've done nothing wrong on my financial disclosures, so they're going to have to go f*** themselves."
Not sure they're going to "have to" do that. I mean, it's certainly an option. But far from a necessity.

8. "Reince Priebus -- if you want to leak something -- he'll be asked to resign very shortly."
This would be a disastrous quote in any other circumstance. The new communications director telling a reporter that the chief of staff is going to resign! In this interview, it doesn't even come close to cracking the top five.

7. (tie) "What I'm going to do is, I will eliminate everyone in the comms team and we'll start over."
"I'm going to fire every one of them, and then you haven't protected anybody, so the entire place will be fired over the next two weeks."
"They'll all be fired by me. I fired one guy the other day. I have three to four people I'll fire tomorrow."
To pick a favorite among the "firing trio" is too hard. (It's like picking your favorite Sand Snake.) But, can you imagine Scaramucci showing up for work tomorrow and facing the staff? "Hey everybody, I know I told a reporter that I was going to fire all of you. But, you know, people say stuff, right? Who's with me?"
(crickets)

4. "You're an American citizen, this is a major catastrophe for the American country. So I'm asking you as an American patriot to give me a sense of who leaked it."
Any political reporter whose been at it for a while will tell you that attempts to guilt you into not writing something come in all shapes and sizes. But the appeal to patriotism is a new one -- especially when you consider that this isn't about classified intelligence. This is about Scaramucci having dinner with the President, the first lady and Sean Hannity.

3. "What I want to do is I want to f***ing kill all the leakers and I want to get the President's agenda on track so we can succeed for the American people."
Ok. So, here's the plan:

1. We kill everyone who leaked anything.
2. We succeed for the American people.
3. Resign in glory.

2. "I'm not Steve Bannon, I'm not trying to suck my own c***."
That this bit of insight into the White House chief strategist's flexibility isn't the number one most damaging thing that Scaramucci says is truly remarkable. It's like how James Harden didn't win the MVP because Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double.
It takes only a once-in-a-lifetime effort for this quote to be the runner-up.

1. "Reince is a f***ing paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoiac...'Let me leak the f***ing thing and see if I can c***-block these people the way I c***-blocked Scaramucci for six months.'"
There's so much here. The bashing of Priebus' state of mind. The imitating of Priebus. The words themselves. This is a hall-of-fame-type quote. And Scaramucci wasn't even supposed to start as communications director until August 15!​
I'm not sure if those are actual quotes, or the Veep version of his quotes.
 
Party loyalty above all else... it isn't like that has ever caused any issues in history. :meh:

Hopefully all this party in-fighting is the beginning of the end. The GOP congress needs to win elections next year and hopefully will finally start coming to their senses.
 
Meanwhile...

Exxon Mobil's profits nearly doubled, but oh my fell short of expected growth. But hey, remember how all that regulation causes businesses to fail.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...bcaf&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Yeah, but you have to remember all that economy killing regulation during Obama's term undid the great economic benefits that the last few years of the Bush + GOP Congress got us. It's about time we're prospering like 2008 again, am I right? #whitePresidentsMatter.

(please note this post is in protest of the lack of an official unionvgf sarcasm font).
 
Listened to this most bizarre podcast as Scott Adams tries to the explain to Sam Harris that Trump is a master of persuasion and deal making.

Scott actually has some points here.... sort of. It's not reassuring to me that Trump is brilliant but uses the strange tactic of extreme proposals that he later walks back or seems to enjoy leading through rampant obfuscation. Is it really leadership if the people don't even know WTF you're doing or talking about half the time?

Aside from that, I give much credit to this Podcast for vigorous discussion that remains civil no matter how differing some opinions are. I've considered becoming a supporter.

 
Speaking of health care costs, the anti-science/anti-vax crowd will cost the US millions.

Even a 5% drop in measles vaccines could cause a big outbreak and cost the US millions. How about we consider that a preventable condition and not allow anti-vaxxers to get health insurance??

According to results the researchers published in JAMA Pediatrics, a mere five-percent slip in measles-mumps-and-rubella (MMR) vaccination rates among kids aged two to 11 would triple measles cases in this age group and cost $2.1 million in public healthcare costs. And that’s just a small slice of the disease transmission outlook. Kids two to 11 years old only make up about 30 percent of the measles cases in current outbreaks. The number of cases would be much larger if the researchers had sufficient data to model the social mixing and immunization status of adults, teens, and infants under two.

https://arstechnica.com/science/201...ping-toward-measles-being-endemic-once-again/
 
The soviet union has banned VPNs.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/31/technology/russia-vpn-internet-putin/index.html

Russia is cracking down on software that allows users to view internet sites banned by the government.
President Vladimir Putin has signed a bill that prohibits services, including virtual private networks (VPNs), that enable users to skirt government censorship efforts.

The law will take effect on November 1.

VPNs use encryption to disguise the source of internet traffic, allowing users to view websites that are banned in their home countries. Many popular VPN services cost around $10 a month.

Russian internet regulator Roskomnadzor maintains a blacklist of thousands of websites.

Leonid Levin, chairman of a parliamentary committee on information policy and communications, said the law signed by Putin does not "introduce any new restrictions and especially no censorship."

"My colleagues only included the restriction of access to information that is already forbidden by law or a court decision," he told state news agency RIA Novosti earlier this month.

Russia is not the only country to crack down on VPNs.

China said in January it would begin to restrict VPNs, and this month reportedly told the country's three big telecom companies to block individuals' access to them by early next year.
 
A perfect example of why net neutrality is so very important. Once the government decides that you don't have the right to free and open internet, the slope gets mighty slippery.
 
Agree, it's the final line of the free press.

Yep, what's scary too is technology is complex and it allows government to mess with free speech without looking like they are doing anything. Imagine if all your searches for Trump suddenly only showed Fox News or Breitbart links. Scary to even think about.
 
A great article on how the Republican party has gone completely off the rails.

"I'm very troubled about where the Republican Party is now. It seems that we've been compromised, but this time by different forces — those of populism and protectionism, isolationism, xenophobia and I'm concerned about how we remain a governing party with those principles," he says.

 
A great article on how the Republican party has gone completely off the rails.




The Republican party lost its way when they were searching for some momentum (and money) and latched themselves to the Christian Right in the early 70s. No longer was the conservative party about less gov't oversight and leaving it up to the states or the inalienable rights of the American people and all about an outdated moral code.
 
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Yep, what's scary too is technology is complex and it allows government to mess with free speech without looking like they are doing anything. Imagine if all your searches for Trump suddenly only showed Fox News or Breitbart links. Scary to even think about.

As a side note kind of related to your comment, back in the late 90s a company I worked for (a large contributor to the original internet) was discussing how to reign in what was then considered the uncontrollable expansion of the Internet. They even had a term for what they would call the Internet 2.0, built from the ground up with government controls in place. They called it The Grid. Obviously it never gained any traction but that was partly because the Internet was kind of an accident. Funnily enough what couldn't be done by design back then has kind of happened through corporate control with companies like Google effectively deciding that you can see now.
 
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