Xbox One S vs PS4 in terms of power

[TDbank24]

In terms of raw power, PS4 is better. But the overall package of X1 is much better. PS4 games may have slightly better res, but often X1's frame rate and AF may be a touch better.

X1 also can play a lot of BC 360 games, and has better online and a better controller. X1 S can also play 4k UHD discs.

Sounds like an Xbox One commercial. We got everything! Except the games you want. Where are the JRPGs? A baseball game? They won't invest in them, because nobody will buy them and they know that. So they're screwed either way.

Don't get me wrong, X1 has plenty of games but it's time Microsoft focus their efforts on better projects and start taking chances. Halo, Gears, and Forza are worn out. I would know, i have 12 days played in Gears 4 already. I can only imagine how worn out people are who don't enjoy those games.

 

[Dtwice]

Sounds like an Xbox One commercial. We got everything! Except the games you want. Where are the JRPGs? A baseball game? They won't invest in them, because nobody will buy them and they know that. So they're screwed either way.

Don't get me wrong, X1 has plenty of games but it's time Microsoft focus their efforts on better projects and start taking chances. Halo, Gears, and Forza are worn out. I would know, i have 12 days played in Gears 4 already. I can only imagine how worn out people are who don't enjoy those games.

I think Microsoft has taken chances. To say they haven't is just ridiculous.

 

[jimmyD]

Huge difference to some.

 

[Spiritech]

It is?

 

[Mcmasters]

Sounds like an Xbox One commercial. We got everything! Except the games you want. Where are the JRPGs? A baseball game? They won't invest in them, because nobody will buy them and they know that. So they're screwed either way.

Don't get me wrong, X1 has plenty of games but it's time Microsoft focus their efforts on better projects and start taking chances. Halo, Gears, and Forza are worn out. I would know, i have 12 days played in Gears 4 already. I can only imagine how worn out people are who don't enjoy those games.

Da fuq?

I'm pretty sure a new FF just released (3rd party), not to mention L.O. and B.D on BC. Fuk baseball right up main street. My world hasn't gotten any smaller because I dont have a baseball game.

Sony has a faux K machine that's still being out performed by base X1 and PS4. PSVR is sinking faster than the (lol) fuking Titanic. Xbox hasnt been JUST a Halo, Gears or Forza box for quite some time now - unless you've been living under a fuking rock (which is possible with you) But I guess it would look that way when the competition has nothing to compete with either one of these titles -- by any stretch of the imagination in their respective genres. If you're gonna post TD, at least TRY to sound like you actually exist SOMEWHERE in our galaxy -- FFS.

Ol' boy(s) is off the chain...Dat Sony Kool Aid got em' super twisted.

 

[Nervusbreakdown]

If your looking for a leap difference your not going to find on both of them.

 

[menace-uk-]

Sounds like an Xbox One commercial. We got everything! Except the games you want. Where are the JRPGs? A baseball game? They won't invest in them, because nobody will buy them and they know that. So they're screwed either way.

Don't get me wrong, X1 has plenty of games but it's time Microsoft focus their efforts on better projects and start taking chances. Halo, Gears, and Forza are worn out. I would know, i have 12 days played in Gears 4 already. I can only imagine how worn out people are who don't enjoy those games.

That seems to be an unfair POV on the game they have given and announced.

I mean games like Gears, Halo and Forza are staples in the Xbox brand. Like Uncharted & Gran Turismo are for Playstation. Not to mention that Microsoft expanded some of those to vastly different experiences, like Forza Horizon and Halo Wars.

What about all the other games the Xbox has/will have, like...

Crackdown
Scalebound
Sea of Thieves
Dead Rising
Halo Wars
Killer Instinct
Quantum Break
Sunset Overdrive
Ryse
Project Spark
Ori and the Blind forest
State of Decay
Cuphead
Titanfall 1
Recore

You might not like those game and that is perfectly fine, but to say the Xbox is only this, this and this is just straight up nonsense. And saying it about one and not complaining about the others who do exactly the same thing just shows bias & ignorance.

 

[Sasquatch Montana]

Microsoft do what Microsoft do. Been I the trenches since 2002. It never changes.

Not cultivating IP is a joke.


Microsoft managed Halo better than Killzone. Resistance. Socom. They did not survive
Microsoft managed Gears better than Uncharted and The Order. They did not survive.
Microsoft managed Forza Motorsport better than Gran Turismo. Which is evidently a once every 4 years deal now...for a prologue.
Microsoft managed Forza Horizon better then Motorstorm and Driveclub. They did not survive
Microsoft managed Minecraft better then Littlebigplanet. That did not survive. Dreams has been in development for 5 years. Its not out yet. It won't survive.

They revived Killer instinct, made it good and modern. Sony killed the street fighter franchise (and ghostbusters)
There's 3 crackdowns in 10 years. Vs 5 Infamous in 5 years. Who's milking what?
State of Decay preceded Days Gone. By years...

MS invested in Recore, Ryse, Sunset, Crimson Dragon, Quantum Break. Scale bound. Ori.

Those that survived, will become enfranchised.
Those that do not will be replaced by new IP.

There is an apt quote from The Social Network that is relevant here

Sean Parker: When you go fishing you can catch a lot of fish, or you can catch a big fish. You ever walk into a guy's den and see a picture of him standing next to fourteen trout?

Christy: No, he's holding a three-thousand-pound marlin.

Sean Parker: Yup!

MS has caught 4 x 3000 pound marlins and took care of them and while they will catch a fair number of trout, they are always looking for marlin number 5.

Sony has Kojima. MS has Kamiya

I realise PSX might make some think Sony has an overwhelming lineup, sometimes it felt that way last gen too. And often, between many games not having dates and others getting delayed past their intended holiday releases ..(Sony doesn't release stuff in Q1 because it spreads it the lineup out....they just delay a ****load of games into Q1)

Well if I could show your mid 2013 self everything MS released between Xbox launch and Dec 31st 2016 it would look similarly stacked....especially if you don't fix a date on them.

2017 to 2019 will too.

January 2020 will tell us much about how close to release the lineups are, and we can look back (or forward as no doubt we will still be awaiting some) and see how right or wrong we were.

Looking back from 2013 to today, i dont feel MS faired worse in any particular year and definitly not in the second half of any given year, they have delivered more consistantly around the holidays 4 years running.

 

[postaboy]

Here is Sony First Party Studios and their actual projects: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1114843

 

[postaboy]

I realise PSX might make some think Sony has an overwhelming lineup, sometimes it felt that way last gen too. Between many games not having dates and others getting delayed past their intended holiday releases ..well if I could show your mid 2013 self everything MS released between Xbox launch and Dec 31st 2016 it would look similarly stacked

2017 to 2019 will too.

January 2020 will tell us much about how close to release the lineups are, and we can look back and see how right or wrong we were.

Looking back from 2013 to today, i dont feel MS faired worse in any particular year and definitly not in the second half of any given year.

It's the Japanese games that make PS4 has an overwhelming lineup. Top of my head: Dragon Quest Builders/Heroes, World of Final Fantasy, The Last Guardian, Persona 5, other JRPG games, Tales of [Insert title], Gravity Rush, Bloodborne, Nioh, etc.

 

[Kvally]

Yup, Sony gets it in Japan. MS will never stand a chance there. MS does good in the US and Europe. They should pull out of Japan and call it a day.

 

[hrudey]

Sounds like an Xbox One commercial. We got everything! Except the games you want. Where are the JRPGs? A baseball game? They won't invest in them, because nobody will buy them and they know that. So they're screwed either way.

Don't get me wrong, X1 has plenty of games but it's time Microsoft focus their efforts on better projects and start taking chances. Halo, Gears, and Forza are worn out. I would know, i have 12 days played in Gears 4 already. I can only imagine how worn out people are who don't enjoy those games.

I have to admit, I'm excited about the Last of Us Remastered Re:Remastered in 2x2K, coming annually on the PS2x2Pro.

 

[menace-uk-]

It's the Japanese games that make PS4 has an overwhelming lineup. Top of my head: Dragon Quest Builders/Heroes, World of Final Fantasy, The Last Guardian, Persona 5, other JRPG games, Tales of [Insert title], Gravity Rush, Bloodborne, Nioh, etc.

I find it kind of funny that you listed two games--Last Guardian & Persona 5--that were supposed to release before the PS4 even launched.

 

[Sasquatch Montana]

It's the Japanese games that make PS4 has an overwhelming lineup. Top of my head: Dragon Quest Builders/Heroes, World of Final Fantasy, The Last Guardian, Persona 5, other JRPG games, Tales of [Insert title], Gravity Rush, Bloodborne, Nioh, etc.

Perhaps..but who cares? At the end of the day Microsofts customers are largely western and the probably think their users care more about being able to play the Mass Effect trilogy, both Fallout 3s, Oblivion, Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta and a handful of Calls of Duty, Deus Ex, Forza Horizon and Burnout Paradise to name but a few of the 300 released in the last 12 months.

Given how many remasters Sony announced the other day and sad rhetoric of "indie games are games too" since early 2013 (but coincidentally not when the 360 had four thousand indie and digital games)...they must count...indeed the PS4 probably has the advantage if you like hard to pronounce niche japanese titles that dont release in the west due to a lack of interest....microsoft knows neither the xbox nor playstation audience actually care about those games en masse. They care about the big names ; Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Tekken, Streetfighter and Metal Gear....and MS has pretty much all of those.

But FFXII ports? Ni No Koni 2.Persona? While nice to have MS isn't going to bust a gut to get them, especially since even a "successful" console like the PS4 is floundering in Japan, the Xbox has no hope in a million years. The console market has just vanished.

There is lots of under utilised talent in Japan which Microsoft has acted on with Recore and Scalebound as those games have appeal in the West....but there's no console market for them there. There's barely one for Sony and Nintendo.

But those games are used for list wars....and thats fine....as long as MS can use the 200 BC games released next year in their list wars as well....which we will.

Personally Xbox One BC is bringing me more games I want to play then PS4 is out of Japan (and I am definitely not alone on that) and it deserves no less a place in fluffing the Xbox lineup then those Japanese titles and Remasters do.

 

[TeKPhaN]

vs thread

 

[BDaddyK]

vs thread

But of course...

 

[TDbank24]

Easy guys, no need to go list wars on me. I know seekar isn't around anymore but come on. We know Sony has more games. More diverse games. It's a fact. I would just like to see Microsoft branch out. The same way i'd like to see Sony make a real attempt at challenging Halo and Gears for the exclusive shooter throne.

 

[postaboy]

 

[menace-uk-]

Easy guys, no need to go list wars on me. I know seekar isn't around anymore but come on. We know Sony has more games. More diverse games. It's a fact. I would just like to see Microsoft branch out. The same way i'd like to see Sony make a real attempt at challenging Halo and Gears for the exclusive shooter throne.

There is no list war.

More diverse games? And you think that is a fact Oh! Maybe you were counting the tech demos for VR....no, wait, that is the same stuff too.

What is it you want Microsoft to branch out into exactly. You keep saying it like there is some new genre that Microsoft hasn't touched yet.

 

[Sasquatch Montana]

One can only assume this is being brought up ironically?

Its not exactly up to date. It has Fable Legends which was cancelled and Dreams releasing in 2016 amongst other errors.

It specifies "big" digital games count, yet doesn't quantify what big is, nor why such an arbitrary rule is in place. I guess "games are games are games" doesn't count when puts the PS4 library on the back foot.

It negates backwards compatible games, but not straight ports. Yet doesn't say why. We know why it does, but the author should really say why they dont want the Xbox One list another 300 games strong.

Lastly it says its a list of exclusives (presumably console exclusives judging by the number of Xbox One games), yet every game on the PS4 list is on PS4 pro; another console through backwards compatability.

Hippocritcal!

This therefor simultaneously violates the backwards compatibility negation rule and timed exclusivity rules.

The PS4 list for all effects does not exist as precisely zero are exclusive to the console they launched 3 years ago (or last month) and the Xbox One is the only one of the two with exclusives...at least until next November when Scorpio does the same.

#UsedTheirOwnRulesAgainstThem