They also make a great FALD set....... comes in 58 and 65 inch.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/tx58dx902b-201604174282.htm
38ms of input lag? Is that good? 1080p @ 60 or 4K @ 60fps + HDR?
They also make a great FALD set....... comes in 58 and 65 inch.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/tx58dx902b-201604174282.htm
Sj8500 series is great for gaming. I can't find a better set for lag, supported hdr formats... IPS panel so blacks are lacking vs competition and lacking in color volume because of this.A edge lit LG?
PQ comes 1st for me and 38 isn't bad for a non monitor.38ms of input lag? Is that good? 1080p @ 60 or 4K @ 60fps + HDR?
Sj8500 series is great for gaming. I can't find a better set for lag, supported hdr formats... IPS panel so blacks are lacking vs competition and lacking in color volume because of this.
Outstanding low input lag, good enough for even competitive gamers. Normally only the 'Game' picture mode has low input lag, but when the input's icon is set to 'PC' all picture modes have the same low input lag and display proper 4:4:4 color (though some settings are disabled). This input lag is a huge improvement over last year's UH8500.
All common resolutions are supported. 4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 color is only supported when 'HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color' is enabled for the port used. 4:4:4 color is only displayed properly when the input's icon is set to 'PC' (aka PC mode). With webOS update 3.6 LG has fixed the PC mode HDR issue, so now 4:4:4 color is properly displayed in HDR content in PC mode. 120 Hz is listed as a possible resolution on a PC, so no custom resolution is needed.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/sj8500
The TCL p607/5 is as good in hdr gaming, cheaper and provides a better picture overall. The thing is there are quality issues. Check out avsforums for issues folks are having.
I watched Godzilla on a 65sj9500 and compared to the oled C7P that was playing the same film directly over it. The blacks are lacking but otherwise it was a nice set and I could never say the picture looked like ass for the half hour I was there. Also if PQ is everything get oled, low input lag and the best blacks.Picture is ass though.
In fact I say LG is near the bottom of current LCD 4K TV makers when it comes to PQ.
I owned the last good 4K set they made before they did away with Full Array.
OLED and gaming don't mix for my tastes.I watched Godzilla on a 65sj9500 and compared to the oled C7P that was playing the same film directly over it. The blacks are lacking but otherwise it was a nice set and I could never say the picture looked like ass for the half hour I was there. Also if PQ is everything get oled, low input lag and the best blacks.
Wow! The lag is only 15ms with HDR. My tv is 23ms with hdr enabled and it's great. Very nice, though I dare say if the black uniformity is like the LG I have downstairs, it's pretty disappointing. Price was good though, and it's sharp.Sj8500 series is great for gaming. I can't find a better set for lag, supported hdr formats... IPS panel so blacks are lacking vs competition and lacking in color volume because of this.
Outstanding low input lag, good enough for even competitive gamers. Normally only the 'Game' picture mode has low input lag, but when the input's icon is set to 'PC' all picture modes have the same low input lag and display proper 4:4:4 color (though some settings are disabled). This input lag is a huge improvement over last year's UH8500.
All common resolutions are supported. 4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 color is only supported when 'HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color' is enabled for the port used. 4:4:4 color is only displayed properly when the input's icon is set to 'PC' (aka PC mode). With webOS update 3.6 LG has fixed the PC mode HDR issue, so now 4:4:4 color is properly displayed in HDR content in PC mode. 120 Hz is listed as a possible resolution on a PC, so no custom resolution is needed.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/sj8500
The TCL p607/5 is as good in hdr gaming, cheaper and provides a better picture overall. The thing is there are quality issues. Check out avsforums for issues folks are having.
Yeah anything below 30ms I believe they rate as great. It is hard to find the perfect TV with the hdr formats and PQ. Fortunately, I can't pick up on too many differences between tvs visually until I see the Oleds.Wow! The lag is only 15ms with HDR. My tv is 23ms with hdr enabled and it's great. Very nice, though I dare say if the black uniformity is like the LG I have downstairs, it's pretty disappointing. Price was good though, and it's sharp.
what ms does the tv you game on have?It's really important to me. Anything over 20ms and you can forget it. But I am used to monitors so I'm sensitive to it.
Its very important but as I said IMO PQ is more important.
Important yes, but I think people who talk about it like "anything over 20 is unplayable" are way overboard especially for console players as most of us only play on TV's and not monitors to begin with.
I never once put mine in game mode and I never felt any lag at all, while that doesn't mean there isn't any the fact that I didn't notice it means it wasn't a big deal. Now if you start going up to near 100 I'm sure that's another story.
14.2 ms with HDR. I have the TCLP607what ms does the tv you game on have?
I find 40ms or lower than to be fine and I do use game modes.
Funny thing about but good in a way about my display is it runs less than 25ms with 4K/60hz/HDR and higher with 1080p and lower content.
So I feed everything/upscale everything to 4k to reap the benefits.
I think the lag matters for twitchy online games...especially if you're already starting behind the 8 ball with higher than average internet latency. I agree that it has limited impact on most other console games.
I know it doesn't work out for many people's circumstances however my strategy is to go for the TV that gives the best image quality for the buck and then buy a less expensive, low latency 4K monitor for online games...where I'm not taking time to appreciate visuals as much.
I want the Panasonic..but cant find it in the states,just because I have a Panasonic vt50 and the picture is amazing still with all the newer technology...the b7 is what ill be upgrading to at the end of the year
I still have not pulled the trigger on a tv yet...its a big decision. I want a Samsung but their 2017 tv's are pretty underwhelming for the price they want. I got a great offer from Visions on a 65" ks9500, over half off regular price. My biggest worry is seeing the 2018 tv's come out and they blow all previous models out of the water making me wish I had waited...its a tough choice. I want my tv to last 5 or so years and thats making me reluctant to pull the trigger due to the way tv technology appears to be moving fast. I wish I lived in the US (Canada) where I could pick up a cheap TCL and live with it for now but I don't have that choice. I checked out the vizio's in store and they are nice and all but still a bit hesitant on getting one.
What do you guys think of the ks9500, I see complaints of the ks8000's back panel peeling off due to the tape and I think the 9500 would probably have the same issue. If I went with this TV I wouldn't be able to get any kind of extended warranty on it, that worries me. Do you think its future proof or is it going to be old technology in 6 months making me regret hopping on the 4k bandwagon? This TV purchase has been painful to say the least haha. After rtings came out with their new 1.1 test bench it makes me very worried about getting a tv this year or sucking it up and waiting and seeing how far the prices can fall as well on next years models.
The 55" OLED is in my price range currently. The 65" at $1000 more isn't. What do you guys think between size and quality? A good 65" set or a great 55" set?
Great 55" set. I would never trade my 55" OLED for a bigger LED. I will be upgrading to a 65" OLED next year though.