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Yeah Rhand says that in one of his recent videos eh? Goddamn that kills my hype for a new Ninja Theory game for Xbox. I heard that this has been in development for a long time, so no "haters" should blame MS for this. NT themselves wanted to make this.

That's not to say the game won't be good but man, after DmC which I enjoyed quite much and Hellblade I really wanted another SP game by them.
 
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Yeah Rhand says that in one of his recent videos eh? Goddamn that kills my hype for a new Ninja Theory game for Xbox. I heard that this has been in development for a long time, so no "haters" should blame MS for this. NT themselves wanted to make this.

That's not to say the game won't be good but man, after DmC which I enjoyed quite much and Hellblade I really wanted another SP game by them.
MS is giving them free reign. That is what gamers want.
 

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MS is giving them free reign. That is what gamers want.
Yep I know, but I can't help but being disappointed that it's likely gonna be a MP game. Creative freedom is good, it's just that personally I'm more of a SP guy than MP.
 
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Yep I know, but I can't help but being disappointed that it's likely gonna be a MP game. Creative freedom is good, it's just that personally I'm more of a SP guy than MP.
Yeah, MP tends to really diminish story importance. It can also kill immersion when some dramatic thing is happening and your buddy is hopping up and down, or sprinting to the next waypoint.
 

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Yeah, MP tends to really diminish story importance. It can also kill immersion when some dramatic thing is happening and your buddy is hopping up and down, or sprinting to the next waypoint.
Oh man, those are one of the most annoying things for sure. That brings me to Borderlands 3 and how I already know I will want to read everything and buddies will be trying to rush me.
 

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Oh man, those are one of the most annoying things for sure. That brings me to Borderlands 3 and how I already know I will want to read everything and buddies will be trying to rush me.
I like to walk slow and take in all the details. I hate the headlong rush to the next thing. Kills the experience.
 
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I like to walk slow and take in all the details. I hate the headlong rush to the next thing. Kills the experience.
Exactly. My current game is now Mass Effect Andromeda and I'm reading everything, talking to everyone and just doing everything the game has to offer. This game could never work for me if it's for more than one player.
 
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Eh!

Disappointed they didn't do another atmospheric singleplayer game. Something Xbox is in short supply of.
Yeah, xbox is seriously lacking melee centric single player action games. Not that Ninja Theory would've ever made something even remotely on par with SSM's God of War, but it'd be nice if the xbox had something making an attempt at a game like that. I'm hoping The Initiative studio is working toward that, considering the bulk of their hires have been people who've worked on games like that.
 

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Come on guys. Everyone know no one on xbox buys a one time ride single player game. Xbox are different than sony.
 

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Come on guys. Everyone know no one on xbox buys a one time ride single player game. Xbox are different than sony.
I always did until they decided there wasn't enough money to be made in them, fable is my favorite MS IP of all time. Once they tried pushing Kinect and everything MP that's when they lost me, yeah Kinect is now a distant bad memory but they still need a deeper portfolio and hopefully that'll come in time.
 
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I always did until they decided there wasn't enough money to be made in them, fable is my favorite MS IP of all time. Once they tried pushing Kinect and everything MP that's when they lost me, yeah Kinect is now a distant bad memory but they still need a deeper portfolio and hopefully that'll come in time.
Also have to factor the used games and pirate games.
 

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Come on guys. Everyone know no one on xbox buys a one time ride single player game. Xbox are different than sony.
Well they haven't have exactly given anyone much reason for anyone to do that obviously.

But it doesn't matter because Microsoft is certainly going to have single player games from their studios going forward.
 

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Also have to factor the used games and pirate games.
It's not that much, most games are sold early on and that's when used games are only about $5 less than the new copy and there are also very few copies available.
 

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It's not that much, most games are sold early on and that's when used games are only about $5 less than the new copy and there are also very few copies available.
but the game developers don't see that money from second-hand sales.
 

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Not sure but ResetEra seems to think he has more info and could potentially spoil the entire presentation.

Some people are just d*cks.
Yep. Hearing the same. Sucks. Wonder how this was able to happen.
 

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Ninja Theory was set up. From this point on it will already be judged and hate before they can even talk about it. The worst part is to go on stage and talk on something you already have the sinking feeling because some a****** wanted to continue the hate train.

Now they will be 1,000 or more videos and talking trash to set up the trend of hate. That guy needs a good f*cking ass kicking.
 

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Ninja Theory was set up. From this point on it will already be judged and hate before they can even talk about it. The worst part is to go on stage and talk on something you already have the sinking feeling because some a****** wanted to continue the hate train.

Now they will be 1,000 or more videos and talking trash to set up the trend of hate. That guy needs a good f*cking ass kicking.
I think most of the negativity it will face is about the unfair assumption that Microsoft forced it on them and that would have happened if it got revealed at the show.

Regardless I don't think the leak is that big of a deal.
 

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but the game developers don't see that money from second-hand sales.
Why should they? they got the money on the initial sale, it's not like it's a shoplifted copy being sold as used. I get the desire to make money anyway you can and I know their argument is they want money from every sale of a game they made but that's like saying Honda should get paid for every used car that's sold, it's a physical disc that is purchased so the person owns that, I know they don't own the "software" argument but they purchased a physical item and they should be able to do what they want with it afterwards IMO. A lot of used game buyers can't afford full price so they buy used or they are people who likely wouldn't have purchased the game at all if they hadn't gotten it at an extreme discount.
 

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I think most of the negativity it will face is about the unfair assumption that Microsoft forced it on them and that would have happened if it got revealed at the show.

Regardless I don't think the leak is that big of a deal.
Yeah I don't think it'd be fair to blame MS, the turnaround on this is too fast for it to not have been planned and worked on before MS acquired them.
 

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Why should they? they got the money on the initial sale, it's not like it's a shoplifted copy being sold as used. I get the desire to make money anyway you can and I know their argument is they want money from every sale of a game they made but that's like saying Honda should get paid for every used car that's sold, it's a physical disc that is purchased so the person owns that, I know they don't own the "software" argument but they purchased a physical item and they should be able to do what they want with it afterwards IMO. A lot of used game buyers can't afford full price so they buy used or they are people who likely wouldn't have purchased the game at all if they hadn't gotten it at an extreme discount.
Because when you have a game with a server to host and you see 200,000 achievements unlocked from each copy but only sold 50,000 copies you know something is wrong.

Or you have a online game and you have people with 2nd hand filling up the servers when the developers dont see the sales, you know someone is selling and your getting Jack sh!t.