Destiny Xbox One Is Not "Dumbed Down"

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In an interview with GamingBolt, Bungie senior environment artist Jason Sussman was asked if the Xbox One version was "dumbed down" compared to PS4.

He replied: "No. We're working really hard to make sure that the best experience and the quality of the game we're trying to deliver is equal across the platforms." The interviewer also asked Sussman about the Xbox One's eSRAM, which reportedly caused issues for developers looking to reach 1080p on the system. He said every console has its subtle differences, but it won't keep Destiny from looking "good" on Xbox One.

"Each console has their own nuances; there is always like little tweaks and things," he said. "That's standard. Anytime you're working cross-platforms there is a-lot of new nuances to each console and we're making sure that the game looks best on all of them and it does; it looks really good. I think we've succeeded. It definitely looks good."

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bungie-destiny-xbox-one-is-not-dumbed-down-compare/1100-6421585/
 
This thread will not go down well.

In any case, what are people expecting the developers to say anyway. They would have said last gen versions are not dumbed down as well, if asked. Only differences being some visuals differences, but the gameplay experience are same on every version. Which actually is true. Its the gameplay that matters in the end right?
 
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If we said "what else are they going to say" to every bit of info we get then the forums would be a boring place.
 
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This thread will not go down well.

In any case, what are people expecting the developers to say anyway. They would have said last gen versions are not dumbed down as well, if asked. Only differences being some visuals differences, but the gameplay experience are same on every version. Which actually is true. Its the gameplay that matters in the end right?

Just another website feeding the fanboy war.
 
Developers can say a lot of things that are meaningful, so there are plenty to say.

But as far as replying a question that will frame console wars, or will affect relationship with their console making business partners then you cannot expect a developers worth his Kitkat would say a preference. It would be a stretch to expect Developers to say one version is better than the other, unless its universally excepted, like last gen vs current gen, or PC vs current gen.

But no 3rd developers will downright say they like one platform over the others, or one is better than the others.
 
But we have already seen developers this gen state that a game on the Xbox One had to have sacrifices made early on in the gen. Watchdogs, Battlefield, COD, etc. All dumbed down, and they explained why.

Why would they all of a sudden have a change of heart? They did the same thing last gen too. I remember when they said the PS version of GTA was dumbed down because they would not wrap their head around the programming.
 
This thread will not go down well.

In any case, what are people expecting the developers to say anyway. They would have said last gen versions are not dumbed down as well, if asked. Only differences being some visuals differences, but the gameplay experience are same on every version. Which actually is true. Its the gameplay that matters in the end right?
Jesus Christ. We've seen both versions on both platforms. They look/will look the same. God some of you guys are so predictable. Positive Xbox articles receive more skepticism than religion.
 
Jesus Christ. We've seen both versions on both platforms. They look/will look the same. God some of you guys are so predictable. Positive Xbox articles receive more skepticism than religion.
Slow the roll. Starseeker isn't someone who warrants this type of a response.
 
I never heard anyone of them said X1 version was dumb down. The best they said was it was harder to achieve certain resolution due to so & so, like Kinect reserve, hardly claiming any domb down.

I do always hear them said, both versions looks great, both looks similar etc
 
The only thing from that article that was "Dumbed down" is the people from gamingbolt asking a r******d question.
 
Slow the roll. Starseeker isn't someone who warrants this type of a response.
Thanks, that means a lot.

Anyway, I meant to say developers will not tell you one verison is better than the other, it could be X1 that is better for all we know. SO why bother asking a question that have no meaningful answer. Wouldn't the time be better spend asking for meaningful questions, say, whats the plan for the series for its 10 years cycle, what are the resources spend on. What's the DLC plan, will there is a Destiny 2, or will the game keep adding on, like KI etc.
 
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The only thing from that article that was "Dumbed down" is the people from gamingbolt asking a r******d question.
Yes, nailed it, It was a click bait. That's Game journalism for you. Making a controversy headline to draw the fanboys crowd.
 
I never heard anyone of them said X1 version was dumb down. The best they said was it was harder to achieve certain resolution due to so & so, like Kinect reserve, hardly claiming any domb down.

I do always hear them said, both versions looks great, both looks similar etc
That's "dumbed down".
 
That's good news. I await DF to see if there are any miniscule differences, if any. I just remember the more blurry IQ of the beta but that was probably due to 900p.
 
That's "dumbed down".
Will, if you reread what Bungie said, you can insert the other games you mention & all will sound legit. Even if Destiny is 900p, the reply will still sound legit, & probaby what he will said as well.

Having read the 3rd time, & even if the interviewer asked if 360/PS3 verisons of the game are dumbed down, the reply will sound legit.

I will break it down.

"No. We're working really hard to make sure that the best experience and the quality of the game we're trying to deliver is equal across the platforms."
Still legit if he refer to 360 & PS3 version. gameplay is same, quality is hard to quantify, but you can take it as means every version have every items, weapons, etc without compromise, so they are equal. (Now if he claimed Visuals will be equal, then it will not be applicable to last gen version, but thats not what he said)

He said every console has its subtle differences, but it won't keep Destiny from looking "good" on Xbox One.
See, again, this sentence can be applied to 360 & PS3 versions as well. They will all look good.

"Each console has their own nuances; there is always like little tweaks and things," he said. "That's standard. Anytime you're working cross-platforms there is a-lot of new nuances to each console and we're making sure that the game looks best on all of them and it does; it looks really good. I think we've succeeded. It definitely looks good."
Well, last time, See, these sentences can be applied to 360 & PS3 versions as well. They will all look as good as they can made (for the respective hardware)

My point being, Bungie haven't really said anything that is clearly shows that X1 version is same as PS4. Now that does not mean they are not similar or same in visuals, maybe X1 even runs better (who knows)? Just that you cannot say so from this interview, & what they said wasn't much different from previous developers. In other words, its not conclusive.

I just think people should just let it go a bit. If one is care so much of their game looking as good, or almost as good as PS4, why not just get a PS4, since PS4 will always have parity with..............PS4.

I totally get it why people wished X1 games to performance as good, or at least almost as good, & when a game does reach parity (or near parity), its good news, no less. However, I think it starting to turned into an obsession & people digging deep into words that developers said, & proclaim parity have been reached etc, but when you read it from a very open minded, a lot of time, they ain't saying much.

Its not unlike DX12. When MS said, it will have impact on X1, people went nuts, & MS have to finally come in finally & explained, so people have a more realistic expectation.
 
Will, if you reread what Bungie said, you can insert the other games you mention & all will sound legit. Even if Destiny is 900p, the reply will still sound legit, & probaby what he will said as well.

Having read the 3rd time, & even if the interviewer asked if 360/PS3 verisons of the game are dumbed down, the reply will sound legit.

I will break it down.

"No. We're working really hard to make sure that the best experience and the quality of the game we're trying to deliver is equal across the platforms."
Still legit if he refer to 360 & PS3 version. gameplay is same, quality is hard to quantify, but you can take it as means every version have every items, weapons, etc without compromise, so they are equal. (Now if he claimed Visuals will be equal, then it will not be applicable to last gen version, but thats not what he said)

He said every console has its subtle differences, but it won't keep Destiny from looking "good" on Xbox One.
See, again, this sentence can be applied to 360 & PS3 versions as well. They will all look good.

"Each console has their own nuances; there is always like little tweaks and things," he said. "That's standard. Anytime you're working cross-platforms there is a-lot of new nuances to each console and we're making sure that the game looks best on all of them and it does; it looks really good. I think we've succeeded. It definitely looks good."
Well, last time, See, these sentences can be applied to 360 & PS3 versions as well. They will all look as good as they can made (for the respective hardware)

My point being, Bungie haven't really said anything that is clearly shows that X1 version is same as PS4. Now that does not mean they are not similar or same in visuals, maybe X1 even runs better (who knows)? Just that you cannot say so from this interview, & what they said wasn't much different from previous developers. In other words, its not conclusive.

I just think people should just let it go a bit. If one is care so much of their game looking as good, or almost as good as PS4, why not just get a PS4, since PS4 will always have parity with..............PS4.

I totally get it why people wished X1 games to performance as good, or at least almost as good, & when a game does reach parity (or near parity), its good news, no less. However, I think it starting to turned into an obsession & people digging deep into words that developers said, & proclaim parity have been reached etc, but when you read it from a very open minded, a lot of time, they ain't saying much.

Its not unlike DX12. When MS said, it will have impact on X1, people went nuts, & MS have to finally come in finally & explained, so people have a more realistic expectation.
You do realize that ign have a video showing and stated that the game is at 1080pee?
 
You do realize that ign have a video showing and stated that the game is at 1080pee?
Yes, Destiny will be 1080p. I know that. In fact I know that it came as day one patch. But I think you misread my point. I meant to say even if Destiny have stayed 900p, they would not have said much differently, if at all. ;)
 
Yes, Destiny will be 1080p. I know that. In fact I know that it came as day one patch. But I think you misread my point. I meant to say even if Destiny have stayed 900p, they would not have said much differently, if at all. ;)
Bungie hasn't said much about the technical comparisons, but Digital Foundry has.
 
Will, if you reread what Bungie said, you can insert the other games you mention & all will sound legit. Even if Destiny is 900p, the reply will still sound legit, & probaby what he will said as well.

Having read the 3rd time, & even if the interviewer asked if 360/PS3 verisons of the game are dumbed down, the reply will sound legit.

I will break it down.

"No. We're working really hard to make sure that the best experience and the quality of the game we're trying to deliver is equal across the platforms."
Still legit if he refer to 360 & PS3 version. gameplay is same, quality is hard to quantify, but you can take it as means every version have every items, weapons, etc without compromise, so they are equal. (Now if he claimed Visuals will be equal, then it will not be applicable to last gen version, but thats not what he said)

He said every console has its subtle differences, but it won't keep Destiny from looking "good" on Xbox One.
See, again, this sentence can be applied to 360 & PS3 versions as well. They will all look good.

"Each console has their own nuances; there is always like little tweaks and things," he said. "That's standard. Anytime you're working cross-platforms there is a-lot of new nuances to each console and we're making sure that the game looks best on all of them and it does; it looks really good. I think we've succeeded. It definitely looks good."
Well, last time, See, these sentences can be applied to 360 & PS3 versions as well. They will all look as good as they can made (for the respective hardware)

My point being, Bungie haven't really said anything that is clearly shows that X1 version is same as PS4. Now that does not mean they are not similar or same in visuals, maybe X1 even runs better (who knows)? Just that you cannot say so from this interview, & what they said wasn't much different from previous developers. In other words, its not conclusive.

I just think people should just let it go a bit. If one is care so much of their game looking as good, or almost as good as PS4, why not just get a PS4, since PS4 will always have parity with..............PS4.

I totally get it why people wished X1 games to performance as good, or at least almost as good, & when a game does reach parity (or near parity), its good news, no less. However, I think it starting to turned into an obsession & people digging deep into words that developers said, & proclaim parity have been reached etc, but when you read it from a very open minded, a lot of time, they ain't saying much.

Its not unlike DX12. When MS said, it will have impact on X1, people went nuts, & MS have to finally come in finally & explained, so people have a more realistic expectation.


Shame on you Starseeker, for Using that Blue text! It's unreadable with the dark grey background I'm using!
 
Another X1 game at...... 1080p!



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:p

Wasn't the OP complaining about all the Destiny topics the other week?
 
Wait, hold the phone! Bungie actually verbally mentioned the Xbox version exists?

/mindblown