DICE: Xbox One and PS4 have "more things in common" than Xbox 360 and PS3

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DICE: Xbox One and PS4 have "more things in common" than Xbox 360 and PS3

http://www.oxm.co.uk/65408/dice-xbox-one-and-ps4-have-more-things-in-common-than-xbox-360-and-ps3/

In news that will surely admit of absolutely no controversy or upset, Battlefield 4's executive producer Patrick Bach has suggested that there's not as much clear blue water between Xbox One and PS4 as between Xbox 360 and PS3. Somebody fetch the fire extinguisher while I board up the office windows, please.
"Even on an extremely high level, I think they have more things in common," Bach told MMGN in an interview last week. "It's much easier to develop and to deliver on five platforms, which is good for us."





Comcept's Keiji Inafune (creator of Mega Man and no end of cherished Capcom games) would presumably agree. "I don't think there's a major difference between them," he told Edge last month.
"If you get down to the tiny details then maybe each is better at one thing than the other, but it doesn't really impact the way you make a game. It's not like PS4 or Xbox One are particularly hard to develop for. Quite the opposite: you can make whatever you want on either one, and that should be enough for anyone."
Thoughts?
 
I think the Capcom guys quote is more interesting:

"It's not like PS4 or Xbox One are particularly hard to develop for. Quite the opposite"

What games are Capcom making on PS4? I think they've done an incredible job with dead rising 3 so far.
 
D-V-ANT said:
I think the Capcom guys quote is more interesting:

"It's not like PS4 or Xbox One are particularly hard to develop for. Quite the opposite"

What games are Capcom making on PS4? I think they've done an incredible job with dead rising 3 so far.
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They're developing Deep Down on the PS4. Dead Rising 3 looks pretty sick too.
 
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Considering there ISA's and uarchs are like 99% the same I dare say it wouldn't be far off (if not) the most samey console in history. The only real difference is the amount of CU's/clock frequency/audio processors/etc that each has.
 
Are they implying "more things in common" towards the ease of development for both consoles?
 
DriedMangoes said:
Are they implying "more things in common" towards the ease of development for both consoles?
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Well in a recent Mark Rein interview DF he did say that both of them were closer than PC development than current gen was. So while the X1 may be harder to develop for than the PS4 likely due to eSRAM, it is probably easier to develop for than the 360.
 
They both are great machines mate. Pick your poison and let it be. Never mind the small details and the sorts. Next generation is nearly here! WOOT! Can't wait for my XO.
 
well ya, minus the xb1's esram and ddr3, and ps4's gddr5 and beefier gpu, they are the same console.
 
ZombiesRUCrazy said:
well ya, minus the xb1's esram and ddr3, and ps4's gddr5 and beefier gpu, they are the same console.
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There are minor differences in the uarchs and ISA's but other then those as well yeah they are literally the same. Anything that runs well on one should 99% of the time run well on the other.
 
ZombiesRUCrazy said:
well ya, minus the xb1's esram and ddr3, and ps4's gddr5 and beefier gpu, they are the same console.
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Riiiigght. Well if Ps4's gddr5 and beefier gpu simply amounts to having more pixels in a game, I'd say thats not really anything to brag about. What you guys try to make it sound like is that the Ps4 makes the XO look like the 360 or Wii-U. They are evenly matched and will improve with time. But its a free world mate. Believe what you want to believe..... I guess.
 
it's more like the ps4 makes the xb1 look like the ps2 in comparison to the first xbox.
 
Mcmasters said:
Riiiigght. Well if Ps4's gddr5 and beefier gpu simply amounts to having more pixels in a game, I'd say thats not really anything to brag about. What you guys try to make it sound like is that the Ps4 makes the XO look like the 360 or Wii-U. They are evenly matched and will improve with time. But its a free world mate. Believe what you want to believe..... I guess.
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It is what it is. But like you said, I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Architecturally, they're more similar than the PS3 and 360 were. Both AMD SoCs.

"What you guys try to make it sound like is that the Ps4 makes the XO look like the 360 or Wii-U." Strawman argument. Nobody here is claiming that.
 
"This just in: Mutiplatform developer spins EVERY bit of info so both versions sell"

Seriously...we haven't figured out that 99% of poop that spills out of developers mouths is PR speak? No dev will ever speak poorly of a version of a game. They want EVERY PS owner to buy the game and EVERY Xbone user too..they know a majority of gamers don't own both systems and they aren't their to sell consoles, they are their to say every thing is peachy and you should buy what ever game they are developing for whatever console you own and not think twice about performance differences.
If they said "PS4 is a pain" it would translate to "are game sucks on PS4" and vice versa..this would be an easy way to kill your sales.
 
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consolewarz said:
Architecturally, they're more similar than the PS3 and 360 were. Both AMD SoCs.

"What you guys try to make it sound like is that the Ps4 makes the XO look like the 360 or Wii-U." Strawman argument. Nobody here is claiming that.
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So do you agree with Zombies comparison? Me personally, I'm not sure if the gap is that drastic. But I really have no idea.
 
ZombiesRUCrazy said:
no, crack makes you think having 500,000 more pixels leading to better image quality and natural AA is nothing to brag about.
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This is precisely why Sony fanboys are the worst of the worst. We have two games that have now determined the victor of the console warz!! Never mind the other launch games that are in fact 1080p @60fps. Lets just focus on these two, seeing as they are the ONLY two games we'll play through the next decade. Zombie, you can be such a groupie sometimes mate. f*** all.:confused:
 
Mcmasters said:
This is precisely why Sony fanboys are the worst of the worst. We have two games that have now determined the victor of the console warz!! Never mind the other launch games that are in fact 1080p @60fps. Lets just focus on these two, seeing as they are the ONLY two games we'll play through the next decade. Zombie, you can be such a groupie sometimes mate. f*** all.:confused:
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im not a groupie of anything. Just pointing out that your "nothing to brag about" statement is completely incorrect. what seems to fly over your head is that if devs decided to make a game on the ps4/xb1 at the same resolution, the ps4 is going to have more room for better graphics. The ps4 is pumping out games that have equal or better graphics at a higher resolution. That's pretty significant.
 
Mcmasters said:
This is precisely why Sony fanboys are the worst of the worst. We have two games that have now determined the victor of the console warz!! Never mind the other launch games that are in fact 1080p @60fps. Lets just focus on these two, seeing as they are the ONLY two games we'll play through the next decade. Zombie, you can be such a groupie sometimes mate. f*** all.:confused:
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I don't think anyone is saying who is the victor yet. Just that judging by these two big multiplatform games (BF4 and COD), the PS4 seems to have a slight edge in power and performance although the Xbox One version is not too shabby itself which I don't think is a deal breaker in any case for Xbox only fans.
 
ZombiesRUCrazy said:
im not a groupie of anything. Just pointing out that your "nothing to brag about" statement is completely incorrect. what seems to fly over your head is that if devs decided to make a game on the ps4/xb1 at the same resolution, the ps4 is going to have more room for better graphics. The ps4 is pumping out games that have equal or better graphics at a higher resolution. That's pretty significant.
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Yet the XO has games that are in fact 1080p @60fps? Significant just took a back seat!

You're seeing what you WANT to see. Not what is or facts. Thats a bit skewered, dont ya think?o_O
 
Mcmasters said:
Yet the XO has games that are in fact 1080p @60fps? Significant just took a back seat!
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yes, and? if the xb1 can hit 1080p60fps on a game, then it is likely that the ps4 will have extra resources that the xb1 won't. again, better graphics, more stable/higher framerate, etc etc.

the facts? all I am talking about is facts. You are the one trying to bend facts in order to make your preferred console look better.
 
Zombies it doesn't help to talk about facts then say the gap between PS4 and XB1 is as wide as PS2 and original Xbox.
 
consolewarz said:
Zombies it doesn't help to talk about facts then say the gap between PS4 and XB1 is as wide as PS2 and original Xbox.
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a five hundred gflop difference is pretty significant. I honestly don't know the exact numbers between the xbox and ps2, but I assume it was pretty significant because it blew away the ps2 in terms of graphics for the most part.
 
ZombiesRUCrazy said:
a five hundred gflop difference is pretty significant. I honestly don't know the exact numbers between the xbox and ps2, but I assume it was pretty significant because it blew away the ps2 in terms of graphics for the most part.
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I don't really know if this is true. Metal Gear Solid 3, Shadow of the Colossus, and the God of War games were pretty stellar looking.
 
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