FBI Cuts Internet & Pose As Repairmen To Perform a Warrantless Search

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Las Vegas, Nev. – In June 2014, federal agents suspected a wealthy foreign real estate developer and his associates of operating an illegal gambling operation from a Las Vegas villa in Caesar’s Palace Hotel using online sports books.

Agents disrupted Internet service to the residence, then pretended to be technicians to gain access to the villa with the goal of gathering enough evidence to obtain a search warrant.
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Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fb...rform-warrantless-search/#wT7KZjx8Vw2cWWaC.99

I know i often go on about "my rights" this and that, but does this seam wrong to anyone else? They knowingly went around getting a search warrant to search a home to get a search warrant. Kind of like breaking the law to catch someone breaking the law?
 
Stuff like this will have gone on for time immemorial (although not specifically relating to the internet obviously).

I don't think it's in any way a new concept that demonstrates society's gradual decline into Nazism. It's just people bending and breaking the rules to achieve their goals. At least they were breaking the rules for the right reasons. The time to be concerned is when they start breaking the rules in order to, f0r example, rob a bank. That's when things will be getting 'screwed up'.
 
morfeeis said:
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fb...rform-warrantless-search/#wT7KZjx8Vw2cWWaC.99

I know i often go on about "my rights" this and that, but does this seam wrong to anyone else? They knowingly went around getting a search warrant to search a home to get a search warrant. Kind of like breaking the law to catch someone breaking the law?
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Did they find anything? If they did, I'm ok with it. If not, then yeah it's going too far. I feel like if they went this far though they must have had some pretty high suspicion.
 
Seems reasonable to me. The feds probably had suspicions and had a hard time getting concrete evidence, so they went looking for it using creative ways. The feds aren't going to waste time and manpower to do pointless searches to kill time. They have a reason. If their search is fruitless as it turns out the guy is innocent after all, they'll move on.

If there's some shady activity going on in the neighbourhood and the cops are looking around for suspects, are you going to tell the cop you can't check your backyard unless they have a warrant?

Here in Canada, they have these things called RIDE programs where the cops sneakily block off highway off-ramps during holidays where they ask you to roll down your window and they quick ask you questions if you've been drinking. They also take a glance inside your car and see if you look red faced and impaired. These stops will have 100s of cars being stopped and probably only 2 have drunks worth pulling over. So in a way, it's a waste of time for 99% of people and unethical for policemen to randomly just pull you over and do blanket checks for everyone.... as well as stalling traffic on that road. But for sake of safety they do it and it's worth doing.

The alternate route they can do is to not check people, but to sit in a car at the side of the road and wait for cars swerving and speeding and chase after those offenders.
 
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So this took place in a hotel? I guess that doesn't matter, if it was against the law for them to do it they shouldn't have. You can't go breaking the laws and then asking other people to follow them.
 
JinCA said:
So this took place in a hotel? I guess that doesn't matter, if it was against the law for them to do it they shouldn't have. You can't go breaking the laws and then asking other people to follow them.
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In a way I absolutely agree with you.

But I'm also willing to bet that a good proportion of the militant 'I know my rights' community smoke weed. I believe it's called irony.
 
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